I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's 2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

On Oct 22, 3:01 pm, "Joy" wrote:
I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's 2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

I'd say 13 years is a typical life expectancy of a gas water heater.
A lot depends on the water, so you could ask neighbors what their
experience has been with gas ones. Electric tend to last
signifcantly longer.

One key issue is what happens if it fails suddenly and starts
leaking? If it's located in an unfinished basement, 5 ft from the
sump pit and the water is going to run in that direction, that's one
end of the spectrum. If it's located in some part of the living
space and there is no adequate drain to deal with a major leak, then
that's another case.

Even in the basement, mine began leaking and even though it was 2 ft
from a french perimeter drain, the water was flowing the other way,
toward piles of stuff I had on the basement floor. I got lucky, I
woke up in the middle of the night hearing a faint buzzing kind of
sound. It took me a while to figure out what it was, but it was the
water causing vibration in the pipes as it leaked from the water
heater. I caught it before the water had any time to do damage and
fortunately the leak was still very small at the time.

So, both of your friends are right. A gas water heater can last 2
yrs or 20 yrs, but the older it gets, the higher the odds of it
failing. Which is why some choose to be conservative and replace
them at 10-13 years. Mine lasted about 16 years BTW.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:01:36 -0400, "Joy"
wrote:

I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's 2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.



I was wondering the same thing about mine. Now it's just started
leaking and I have to do something quickly which is never good.

Have you taken good care of it, changed the anion thing, drained the
water? I didn't know about those things before now and maybe that
would have prolonged its life. I didn't. So it goes. And it had better
go soon, like tomorrow.

Around here 8 years is doing good. Much depends on the water.

Besides draining and anode replacement how hot you keep your heater
matters.

Set to HOT then drain completely thermal shock leads to earlier
failure espically if constantly repeated. larger tanks help minimize
this

Outside appearnace is completely meaningless, cheap outer shell just
holds the insulation in place.

Do you have the gas tank on your car replaced, before it leaks?
Do you replace your kitchen sink drains before they rust out?

the water heater is good until it begins to leak someplace other than the
T&P valve. Don't worry about it.

s


"Joy" wrote in message
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I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

On Oct 22, 6:02?pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
Do you have the gas tank on your car replaced, before it leaks?
Do you replace your kitchen sink drains before they rust out?

the water heater is good until it begins to leak someplace other than the
T&P valve. Don't worry about it.

s

"Joy" wrote in message

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I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

ahh personally I prefer to pick my units replacement date after a big
leak with houseguests over a christmas holiday.

sure we got the tank replaced but it cost a lot more and was a PIA

worse there was a bad snowstorm just for fun...........

you can wait till your feet are wet, I replace mine on my schedule

On Oct 22, 6:02 pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
Do you have the gas tank on your car replaced, before it leaks?

No, but gas tanks don't have a history of leak problems and generally
last the life of a car. I've never replaced a gas tank in a car. A
water heater is much different.

How about radiator hoses and timing belts? Do you wait until they
fail or do you change them out at 10 years or 100K miles or so?


Do you replace your kitchen sink drains before they rust out?

No, but a leaking sink drain, is almost always found before major
damage has occurred, because water starts showing up in the cabinet
under the sink or on the floor where you stand in front of the
sink. I've never heard of anyone coming home and finding their
basement flooded because of a sink drain leaking.

Do you wait until you have leaks to replace your roof? Or do you
realize it's now 25 years old, take a look at it, realize it's nearing
the end of it's life and replace it before it's leaking?





the water heater is good until it begins to leak someplace other than the
T&P valve. Don't worry about it.


Even if it's located in an attic, living space, or finished basement?





s

"Joy" wrote in message

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I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

they give plenty of notice. No need to waste useful years of the tank .

s


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ahh personally I prefer to pick my units replacement date after a big
leak with houseguests over a christmas holiday.

sure we got the tank replaced but it cost a lot more and was a PIA

worse there was a bad snowstorm just for fun...........

you can wait till your feet are wet, I replace mine on my schedule

On Oct 22, 6:02 pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
Do you have the gas tank on your car replaced, before it leaks?

No, but gas tanks don't have a history of leak problems and generally
last the life of a car. I've never replaced a gas tank in a car. A
water heater is much different.

How about radiator hoses and timing belts? Do you wait until they
fail or do you change them out at 10 years or 100K miles or so?


Do you replace your kitchen sink drains before they rust out?

No, but a leaking sink drain, is almost always found before major
damage has occurred, because water starts showing up in the cabinet
under the sink or on the floor where you stand in front of the
sink. I've never heard of anyone coming home and finding their
basement flooded because of a sink drain leaking.

Do you wait until you have leaks to replace your roof? Or do you
realize it's now 25 years old, take a look at it, realize it's nearing
the end of it's life and replace it before it's leaking?





the water heater is good until it begins to leak someplace other than the
T&P valve. Don't worry about it.


Even if it's located in an attic, living space, or finished basement?





s

"Joy" wrote in message

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I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

wrote in message
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No, but gas tanks don't have a history of leak problems and generally
last the life of a car. I've never replaced a gas tank in a car. A
water heater is much different.

I've only replace 1 water heater in 35 years of owning multiple homes. I've
replaced 4 automotive gas tanks that rusted out. And that's just my own.


How about radiator hoses and timing belts? Do you wait until they
fail or do you change them out at 10 years or 100K miles or so?

Wait 'till failure. I'm a certified mechanic and am tired of working on
cars. I only touch my own when absolutely necessary.




Do you wait until you have leaks to replace your roof? Or do you
realize it's now 25 years old, take a look at it, realize it's nearing
the end of it's life and replace it before it's leaking?

Wait 'till the hailstorm when the insurance co. pays for it.






the water heater is good until it begins to leak someplace other than the
T&P valve. Don't worry about it.


Even if it's located in an attic, living space, or finished basement?

Wouldn't have one in those locations.

"Joy" wrote in message
...
I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.


Episode of Ask This Old House...

The expert plumber, Rich something, talked about replacing the Anode, that
sacrificial metal pipe in the hot water tank. Replacing that metal rod
every 10 years they claimed add lots and lots of years to glass lined tanks.
Looked real easy to change. Water dissolves rod, not tank or copper pipes.

Has anyone ever replaced that metal rod?

Thanks

Phil

On Oct 22, 10:39?pm, "Phil-In-Mich."
wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message

...

I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

Episode of Ask This Old House...

The expert plumber, Rich something, talked about replacing the Anode, that
sacrificial metal pipe in the hot water tank. Replacing that metal rod
every 10 years they claimed add lots and lots of years to glass lined tanks.
Looked real easy to change. Water dissolves rod, not tank or copper pipes.

Has anyone ever replaced that metal rod?

Thanks

Phil

you will likely find it impossible to remve the old rod and be
prepared to just replace the tank. disturbing a old tank can geterate
a leak, either immediately or shortly after messing with it.

I look at it like this.

cost of new DIY tank with fitting well under 500 bucks, average life
10 years, annual cost 50 bucks less than a single candy bar a week.
most new DIY tanks cheaper

Its worth it to ME to save a mess at a inconvenient time, but then
again I replace car batteries every 5 years no matter how great they
seem

"Joy" wrote in message
...
I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's 2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

If you want to make it last, replace the anode, which keeps it from corroding.

Life is very dependent on water and usage. Keep an eye out for slow leaks, which
generally preceed major ones.

Bob

Yes, quite easy. Have to get a big socket and apply some torque (very
carefully) to the 1/2inch drive, via a pipe. Anode in my tank was mostly
consumed after 6 years.

Make sure you have clearance above the tank, to fit a new anode. Otherwise,
you'll have to "unhook" all the pipes. Not a big deal, but take longer.
Also good idea to put some chlorine in the tank, deodorize, while you're
doing that. Look for info on the net.

RichK

"Phil-In-Mich."

The expert plumber, Rich something, talked about replacing the Anode, that
sacrificial metal pipe in the hot water tank. Replacing that metal rod
every 10 years they claimed add lots and lots of years to glass lined
tanks.
Looked real easy to change. Water dissolves rod, not tank or copper
pipes.

Has anyone ever replaced that metal rod?

Make sure you have clearance above the tank, to fit a new anode.
Otherwise,
you'll have to "unhook" all the pipes.

Darn good point. Never gave that clearance bit a thought.
Thanks.

Phil

On Oct 23, 12:04 am, "Bob F" wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message

...

I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's 2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

If you want to make it last, replace the anode, which keeps it from corroding.

Life is very dependent on water and usage. Keep an eye out for slow leaks, which
generally preceed major ones.

Bob

Also, for the overhead clearance problem, they make replacement anodes
that are in 3 sections, so it takes minimal overhead clearance. I
can get a regular one in and out in my basement without any problem.
After about 6 years, when I last checked it was about 1/2 gone. Very
east to check, it just takes a socket (1 1/8" I think or else 1 1/16)/

I wanted to thank everyone who took the time to share their experience and
knowledge. I've read each one and found them all to be very helpful and to
have provided excellent insight. Again, thank you!


"Joy" wrote in message
...
I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water
tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot
water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

"Phil-In-Mich." wrote in message
...


Make sure you have clearance above the tank, to fit a new anode.
Otherwise,
you'll have to "unhook" all the pipes.

Darn good point. Never gave that clearance bit a thought.
Thanks.

Phil




And when you replace the anode, put teflon tape or anti-seize compound on
the new one, makes removing it much easier next time. Same goes for the T&P
valve and the hot/cold connections (mine are threaded so I don't need to
bother with a torch.)

If your flue goes directly up for about 4 feet, you could run the new anode
up the flue then down into the tank if clearance is an issue.

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On Oct 23, 12:04 am, "Bob F" wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message

...

I have not had a single problem with my Sears Power Miser 10 that was
installed 13 years ago but friends are telling me that a gas hot water tank
should be replaced every 10 years. Another friend said that a gas hot water
tank lasts as long as the first day a person has a problem, whether that's
2
years or 20 years.

I would really like to know if there are other things that should be
considered when trying to decide the timing for replacement. Thank you.

If you want to make it last, replace the anode, which keeps it from
corroding.

Life is very dependent on water and usage. Keep an eye out for slow leaks,
which
generally preceed major ones.

Bob

Also, for the overhead clearance problem, they make replacement anodes
that are in 3 sections, so it takes minimal overhead clearance. I
can get a regular one in and out in my basement without any problem.
After about 6 years, when I last checked it was about 1/2 gone. Very
east to check, it just takes a socket (1 1/8" I think or else 1 1/16)/


Unfortunately, some have the anodes hidden under sheet metal and/or insulation.
I check for accessability before I buy a heater.

Bob

well the newer foam insulated tanks cost less to operate, and being
new arent filled with sludge.

replacing anodes may keep the tank in service longer but not really
save money

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well the newer foam insulated tanks cost less to operate, and being
new arent filled with sludge.

replacing anodes may keep the tank in service longer but not really
save money


yeah - right. Care to document this claim?

Bob

On Oct 24, 2:40?pm, "Bob F" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

well the newer foam insulated tanks cost less to operate, and being
new arent filled with sludge.

replacing anodes may keep the tank in service longer but not really
save money

yeah - right. Care to document this claim?

Bob

just compare the yellow energy guide tag on your old tank to a tank
sold today.

you will see a amazing difference. efficency way up.