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Duct tape
William Sommerwerck wrote:
Where in world did you come up with duck? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. Except it isn't very good for that... So why the latter? It might originally have been called duck tape. See the Etymology section of the Wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape The issue is confusing, because it wasn't used for ducts until long after it was invented. Not so confusing now, as apparently there's a manufacturer of the stuff with "Duck" in its name, putting out a product called "'Duck Tape' brand of duct tape." Obviously in their interest to have folks call it "Duck", but I've not run across this brand ever, but it explains a whole lot. -- john mcwilliams |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewerstotally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
On 10/21/07 3:01 PM, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: Where in world did you come up with duck? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. Except it isn't very good for that... So why the latter? It might originally have been called duck tape. See the Etymology section of the Wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape The issue is confusing, because it wasn't used for ducts until long after it was invented. And what is worse is that the stuff commonly called "duct tape" - fabric tape with a silvery but non-metallic coating is actually a very bad choice for sealing ducts. There are varieties of tape that are made for sealing ducts but the common "duct" tape is not one of them. I am surprised that no one has mentioned gaffers tape. |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewers totally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
John wrote on Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:25:15 -0700:
?? Then you don't know the proper way to use duck (duct) ?? tape. In a case like this, you use the tape to hold ?? something against the door, so it CAN'T move. JM Where in world did you come up with duck?? One doesn't tape JM ducks; one tapes ducts. except it isn't very good for JM that..... I see the name is much discussed later but I would debate whether it is not useful for ducts. It's doing very well in my house and is good for a lot of other things! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewerstotally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
Robert Haar wrote:
On 10/21/07 3:01 PM, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: Where in world did you come up with duck? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. Except it isn't very good for that... So why the latter? It might originally have been called duck tape. See the Etymology section of the Wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape The issue is confusing, because it wasn't used for ducts until long after it was invented. And what is worse is that the stuff commonly called "duct tape" - fabric tape with a silvery but non-metallic coating is actually a very bad choice for sealing ducts. There are varieties of tape that are made for sealing ducts but the common "duct" tape is not one of them. I am surprised that no one has mentioned gaffers tape. Gaffer's tape is mentioned in the Wiki article, and it's mentioned in the first line that duct tape ain't so good for ducts. -- john mcwilliams |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewers totally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
John wrote on Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:05:09 -0700:
JM Robert Haar wrote: ?? On 10/21/07 3:01 PM, "William Sommerwerck" ?? wrote: ?? ?? Where in world did you come up with duck? One doesn't ?? tape ducks; one tapes ducts. Except it isn't very good ?? for that... ?? So why the latter? ?? ?? It might originally have been called duck tape. See the ?? Etymology section of the Wikipedia article. ?? ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape ?? ?? The issue is confusing, because it wasn't used for ducts ?? until long after it was invented. ?? ?? And what is worse is that the stuff commonly called "duct ?? tape" - fabric tape with a silvery but non-metallic ?? coating is actually a very bad choice for sealing ducts. ?? There are varieties of tape that are made for ?? sealing ducts but the common "duct" tape is not one of ?? them. ?? ?? I am surprised that no one has mentioned gaffers tape. JM Gaffer's tape is mentioned in the Wiki article, and it's JM mentioned in the first line that duct tape ain't so good JM for ducts. Despite Wikipedia, I think we should stick to photography :-) I'm not sure whether we are talking about the same thing! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewers totally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
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John McWilliams wrote: I am surprised that no one has mentioned gaffers tape. Gaffer's tape is mentioned in the Wiki article, and it's mentioned in the first line that duct tape ain't so good for ducts. Despite having used it for many years I've never heard the apostrophe added. It's gaffer tape. -- *A hangover is the wrath of grapes. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:12:11 -0700, John McWilliams wrote:
Not so confusing now, as apparently there's a manufacturer of the stuff with "Duck" in its name, putting out a product called "'Duck Tape' brand of duct tape." Obviously in their interest to have folks call it "Duck", but I've not run across this brand ever, but it explains a whole lot. "Duck Tape" has been a trademark registered in the US since 1993, for "Elongated Tape Having a Pressure Sensitive Adhesive on One Side... FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19800114." The owner is "Manco Tape, Inc. CORPORATION OHIO 2040 W. 110 St. Cleveland OHIO 44107." -- Larry |
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"pltrgyst" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:12:11 -0700, John McWilliams wrote: Not so confusing now, as apparently there's a manufacturer of the stuff with "Duck" in its name, putting out a product called "'Duck Tape' brand of duct tape." Obviously in their interest to have folks call it "Duck", but I've not run across this brand ever, but it explains a whole lot. Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. |
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Duct tape
Wrong. Again.
The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. |
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Duct tape
Steve Barker LT wrote:
"Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 Metal tape with adhesive is known as "flashing tape", used to seal the edges of roofs to prevent the ingress of moisture under the edge of roofing material or between walls that are built hard up against each other. Flashing used to be done with lead foil sealed/glued with pitch, now it is done with adhesive metal [usually aluminium] tape, hence "flashing tape". In Australia, generic "duct tape" is essentially like a very wide electrical tape: a stretchy PVC backing with glue on it, usually about 2 inches wide. This tape that's cloth backed in plastic with an easy release adhesive sounds more like "gaffer tape", which is used extensively in the entertainment industry to hold electrical cables in place and for slapdash on-the-spot repairs. A "gaffer" is an on-set electrician used during the making of a movie or in-house electrician for a theatre, hence "gaffer tape". |
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In article , dj_nme wrote:
Steve Barker LT wrote: "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 Metal tape with adhesive is known as "flashing tape", used to seal the edges of roofs to prevent the ingress of moisture under the edge of roofing material or between walls that are built hard up against each other. Flashing used to be done with lead foil sealed/glued with pitch, now it is done with adhesive metal [usually aluminium] tape, hence "flashing tape". In Australia, generic "duct tape" is essentially like a very wide electrical tape: a stretchy PVC backing with glue on it, usually about 2 inches wide. This tape that's cloth backed in plastic with an easy release adhesive sounds more like "gaffer tape", which is used extensively in the entertainment industry to hold electrical cables in place and for slapdash on-the-spot repairs. A "gaffer" is an on-set electrician used during the making of a movie or in-house electrician for a theatre, hence "gaffer tape". I never came across using aluminum foil tape as flashing. I have used it for ducts, for hot exaust pipes, and other uses. Flexible sticky flashing is now usually done with mineral based sheeting with polyethelene backing. Most auto parts stores sell metal tape. I used some stainless tape for covering chrome or chrome like parts. I just recently came across the cloth tape with mild stick, or gaffers tape. New to me. There are different backings for duck tape. I like using the remants of the not available anymore, 100 MPH tape from Sprotsman Guide, orginally used to repair aircraft wings. It has a stretch unlike most, and really holds up and sticks well. greg |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewerstotally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , John McWilliams wrote: I am surprised that no one has mentioned gaffers tape. Gaffer's tape is mentioned in the Wiki article, and it's mentioned in the first line that duct tape ain't so good for ducts. Despite having used it for many years I've never heard the apostrophe added. It's gaffer tape. Kinda like "Can peas" or "Tin peas" in a sense. I'm sure many call it so without the possessive, but if it's used mostly by gaffers, it should be in the form I put it. Unless there is a widely used verb (by those in the Biz.) "to gaff". -- john mcwilliams |
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Duct tape
Steve Barker LT wrote:
Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 This is a redirect to a 3M product spec page; for this item and others in the same category, there is _no_ reference to using the product on 'ducts' anywhere in the description. "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. |
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Duct tape
In article , msg wrote:
Steve Barker LT wrote: Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 This is a redirect to a 3M product spec page; for this item and others in the same category, there is _no_ reference to using the product on 'ducts' anywhere in the description. I never really considered using the stuff on ducts. I always noticed after years, the tape would get hard, fall apart and become useless. Some types last longer, but the typical silver tape. greg "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewers totally miss a serious flaw in the camera?]
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John McWilliams wrote: Despite having used it for many years I've never heard the apostrophe added. It's gaffer tape. Kinda like "Can peas" or "Tin peas" in a sense. I'm sure many call it so without the possessive, but if it's used mostly by gaffers, it should be in the form I put it. Unless there is a widely used verb (by those in the Biz.) "to gaff". The 'gaffer' is the charge hand electrician on a film etc crew. And only really one per unit. With a large crew on a big rig he is more likely to delegate the jobs needed to be done than do them himself - like any good crew chief. Organise the work among his crew to prevent two doing the same job - or the lazy ones doing nothing. Perhaps the primary use of gaffer tape these days is fixing filters to window frames etc. But I dunno if that was the original intended use - although old I'm not *that* old. ;-) But the same tape is equally used by other crafts within the trade - even although others also have their own tape, like camera tape, fairly similar to gaffer in construction in that it's fabric reinforced but 1" wide and white and originally used to seal film tins. -- *I started out with nothing... and I still have most of it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for?
s "msg" wrote in message ... This is a redirect to a 3M product spec page; for this item and others in the same category, there is _no_ reference to using the product on 'ducts' anywhere in the description. |
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dj_nme wrote: Flashing used to be done with lead foil sealed/glued with pitch, now it is done with adhesive metal [usually aluminium] tape, hence "flashing tape". I wonder on what sort of construction? In the UK where buildings pretty well all have stone walls, the lead flashing is bent into a 'chase' created in the masonry, usually the mortar between coarses, secured with lead wedges and mortar applied afterwards to seal. A lime based mortar is best to accommodate some movement. Down the edge of a roof where it meets the brickwork it will be cut into a step shape to follow the line of the horizontal bricks. And it's still very much in use today - despite the cost. -- *Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:08 -0500, "Steve Barker" wrote: It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a waterproof sealing tape for ammunition cases then why does it fail so rapidly when exposed to water or high humidity? just curious, nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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and........ proceeding to the next paragraph........
:quoting from the same place you did: The name "duct tape" came from its use on heating and air conditioning ducts, end quote..... steve wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:08 -0500, "Steve Barker" wrote: It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a waterproof sealing tape for ammunition cases |
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Steve Barker wrote:
and........ proceeding to the next paragraph........ :quoting from the same place you did: The name "duct tape" came from its use on heating and air conditioning ducts, end quote..... That's all pretty brilliant, but all of that has been covered in the thread. Does no one read prior to posting anymore? -- John McWilliams |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , dj_nme wrote: Flashing used to be done with lead foil sealed/glued with pitch, now it is done with adhesive metal [usually aluminium] tape, hence "flashing tape". I wonder on what sort of construction? The edges of flat roofs, the edges of walls between abutting buildings (to prevent ingress of moisture between them) and around openings in roofs (such as hatches, chimneys and skylights). |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewerstotallymiss a serious flaw in the camera?]
John McWilliams wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Then you don't know the proper way to use duck (duct) tape. In a case like this, you use the tape to hold something against the door, so it CAN'T move. Where in world did you come up with duck?? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. except it isn't very good for that..... SIGH. It was named DUCK tape by GIs who used it to waterproof shipping containers, because 'Water flows off it, like water off a duck's back'. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewerstotallymiss a serious flaw in the camera?]
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
John McWilliams wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Then you don't know the proper way to use duck (duct) tape. In a case like this, you use the tape to hold something against the door, so it CAN'T move. Where in world did you come up with duck?? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. except it isn't very good for that..... SIGH. It was named DUCK tape by GIs who used it to waterproof shipping containers, because 'Water flows off it, like water off a duck's back' Ex-urban legend. Plus this was already covered, ad naseum. -- lsmft |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewers totallymiss a serious flaw in the camera?]
Michael A. Terrell wrote: John McWilliams wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Then you don't know the proper way to use duck (duct) tape. In a case like this, you use the tape to hold something against the door, so it CAN'T move. Where in world did you come up with duck?? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. except it isn't very good for that..... SIGH. It was named DUCK tape by GIs who used it to waterproof shipping containers, because 'Water flows off it, like water off a duck's back'. Duct tape fans unite! http://www.ducttapeguys.com/onaroll/...er/040106.html -- Frank ess |
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Duct tape was: [ Why did the professional camera reviewers totallymiss a serious flaw in the camera?]
Duct tape fans unite!
http://www.ducttapeguys.com/onaroll/...er/040106.html DUCT tape is made of METAL! |
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Duct tape
Steve Barker LT wrote:
Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. The original product was called 'Duct tape', and while it was great for many uses, with a metalized cloth backing, and a rather thick adhesive, it was tested on actual ductwork, and found severely lacking for this use because the adhesive becomes hard when exposed to heat, and the tape turns loose. However, it has MANY other great uses, and the astronauts on Apollo 13 wouldn't have survived had they not had it along. It can be a valuable asset around the house, as long as you don't try to use it on heating ducts. The product known as 'Duck tape' is simply a cheap knock-off of the original product, and is, in my experience, vastly inferior. |
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G wrote:
In article , dj_nme wrote: Steve Barker LT wrote: "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 Metal tape with adhesive is known as "flashing tape", used to seal the edges of roofs to prevent the ingress of moisture under the edge of roofing material or between walls that are built hard up against each other. Flashing used to be done with lead foil sealed/glued with pitch, now it is done with adhesive metal [usually aluminium] tape, hence "flashing tape". In Australia, generic "duct tape" is essentially like a very wide electrical tape: a stretchy PVC backing with glue on it, usually about 2 inches wide. This tape that's cloth backed in plastic with an easy release adhesive sounds more like "gaffer tape", which is used extensively in the entertainment industry to hold electrical cables in place and for slapdash on-the-spot repairs. A "gaffer" is an on-set electrician used during the making of a movie or in-house electrician for a theatre, hence "gaffer tape". I never came across using aluminum foil tape as flashing. I have used it for ducts, for hot exaust pipes, and other uses. Flexible sticky flashing is now usually done with mineral based sheeting with polyethelene backing. Most auto parts stores sell metal tape. I used some stainless tape for covering chrome or chrome like parts. I just recently came across the cloth tape with mild stick, or gaffers tape. New to me. There are different backings for duck tape. I like using the remants of the not available anymore, 100 MPH tape from Sprotsman Guide, orginally used to repair aircraft wings. It has a stretch unlike most, and really holds up and sticks well. greg An aluminum metal tape is also used to seal the seams between the metal-backed foam insulation on homes. The adhesive is permanent, and the tape is pretty expensive as such things go, but it keeps out the wind (and water) well. |
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G wrote:
In article , (G) wrote: In article , msg wrote: Steve Barker LT wrote: Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 This is a redirect to a 3M product spec page; for this item and others in the same category, there is _no_ reference to using the product on 'ducts' anywhere in the description. I never really considered using the stuff on ducts. I always noticed after years, the tape would get hard, fall apart and become useless. Some types last longer, but the typical silver tape. While it would seem to be perfect for ducts, the fall apart business seems to be the key to it usufullness. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape Just how do you regard having your duct joints fall apart as desirable? Seems to be a bit of a disaster to me. |
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Steve Barker wrote:
It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s "msg" wrote in message ... This is a redirect to a 3M product spec page; for this item and others in the same category, there is _no_ reference to using the product on 'ducts' anywhere in the description. Ironically, NOT for ducts. I suspect some fly-by-night heating and air conditioning people used it, and it took that name, but it has been shown to be a very ineffective tape for that application. |
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Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:08 -0500, "Steve Barker" wrote: It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a waterproof sealing tape for ammunition cases then why does it fail so rapidly when exposed to water or high humidity? just curious, nate Original duct tape didn't have the same adhesive as the current product, and its many imitators. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
... SIGH. It was named DUCK tape by GIs who used it to waterproof shipping containers, because 'Water flows off it, like water off a duck's back'. Also possibly because it was made of cotton duck cloth. |
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In article , Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:08 -0500, "Steve Barker" wrote: It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a waterproof sealing tape for ammunition cases then why does it fail so rapidly when exposed to water or high humidity? just curious, nate The biggest failure is drying out. greg |
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According to :
It is simply because the crap they sell at Wal-Mart is not GI grade (AKA 100 MPH duct tape). I had some I used on dive gear that held up for many years and regularly used under water. You can still buy it at some military type stores but it costs over $10 a roll. While perhaps not _quite_ Mil-Spec, you can get a very close equivalent at other places. Lee Valley carries it for example. -- Chris Lewis, Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them. |
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Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:08 -0500, "Steve Barker" wrote: It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a waterproof sealing tape for ammunition cases then why does it fail so rapidly when exposed to water or high humidity? just curious, nate Because just like a lot of stuff there is a quality version and a cheepo version designed to be sold in big box stores. If you go to a real supply house you can buy quality duct tape. |
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I'm not sure who you were asking, but the tape does not and can not be what
holds the ducts together. It is merely for sealing the joint for anal types. Most ducts don't have tape on them. s "Ron Hunter" wrote in message ... Just how do you regard having your duct joints fall apart as desirable? Seems to be a bit of a disaster to me. |
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Steve Barker wrote:
I'm not sure who you were asking, but the tape does not and can not be what holds the ducts together. It is merely for sealing the joint for anal types. Most ducts don't have tape on them. s "Ron Hunter" wrote in message ... Just how do you regard having your duct joints fall apart as desirable? Seems to be a bit of a disaster to me. If ducts are made properly, they should be locked together by a folded seam by which the ends of the ducts slide together and an edge is then folded over to lock it all together. Look up "pittsburgh seam" or "pittsburgh seaming" and "ducting" on Google. |
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Ron Hunter wrote:
Steve Barker LT wrote: Wrong. Again. The original DUCT tape had and still has NO metal foil. http://tinyurl.com/ywrzu5 "Noozer" wrote in message news:eaVSi.106433$Da.35678@pd7urf1no... Duck tape and duct tape are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!! Duck tape is made from cloth and is a REALLY bad choice for using on ducts. It was designed originally to repair tarps and withstand the weather. Duct tape is made from metal foil and is designed for use on metal ductwork. The original product was called 'Duct tape', and while it was great for many uses, with a metalized cloth backing, and a rather thick adhesive, it was tested on actual ductwork, and found severely lacking for this use because the adhesive becomes hard when exposed to heat, and the tape turns loose. However, it has MANY other great uses, and the astronauts on Apollo 13 wouldn't have survived had they not had it along. It can be a valuable asset around the house, as long as you don't try to use it on heating ducts. The product known as 'Duck tape' is simply a cheap knock-off of the original product, and is, in my experience, vastly inferior. Crikey, Ron, can you not freakin' read? all of this has been covered. days ago. -- lsmft |
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In article , Nate Nagel wrote: wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:08 -0500, "Steve Barker" wrote: It IS duct tape however. What do you think it was originally designed for? s duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a waterproof sealing tape for ammunition cases then why does it fail so rapidly when exposed to water or high humidity? just curious, nate The biggest failure is drying out. greg Yep. It can do some great things, but permenancy is not one of its outstanding features. |
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On 21 Oct, 18:25, John McWilliams wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Then you don't know the proper way to use duck (duct) tape. In a case like this, you use the tape to hold something against the door, so it CAN'T move. Where in world did you come up with duck?? One doesn't tape ducks; one tapes ducts. except it isn't very good for that..... Some american hardware stores stock duct tape with the trade name Duck. Makes me laugh. |
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