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GoHabsGo October 9th 07 07:45 PM

Drippy drain on new sink
 
Hi all,

I just installed a new counter with builtin sink made of mezanite and after
I installed the faucett and sink drain, there is a slow drip when using the
sink.

The sink is odd in that it has no vent for the drain, it is a simple bowl
with a hole in it. The drain pipe is made of some plastic material with a
rubber gasket that goes under the sink and tightened by a large nut on the
pipe. The pipe does have holes near the top which I assume are there to
accomodate a vent/overflow, which my sink does not have.

Instructions that came with the pipe said to use teflon tape on the top of
the pipe which threads onto the shiny flange peice on the inside of the
bowl. I have done this twice. Second time, I used the thicker teflon tape
and it still drips. I am afraid of overtightening the nut to stop the
drip. Is it possible that the drip is coming from the lower part of the
pipe, where the big rubber gasket is? Should I teflon tape there too?

I was also thinking of doubling up with pipe dope and tape.

Any suggestions, other than 'call a plumber', will be appreciated. This is
not rocket science, I just need a pointer or two.

Thanks,

Larry


DerbyDad03 October 9th 07 08:23 PM

Drippy drain on new sink
 
On 9 Oct, 14:45, GoHabsGo wrote:
Hi all,

I just installed a new counter with builtin sink made of mezanite and after
I installed the faucett and sink drain, there is a slow drip when using the
sink.

The sink is odd in that it has no vent for the drain, it is a simple bowl
with a hole in it. The drain pipe is made of some plastic material with a
rubber gasket that goes under the sink and tightened by a large nut on the
pipe. The pipe does have holes near the top which I assume are there to
accomodate a vent/overflow, which my sink does not have.

Instructions that came with the pipe said to use teflon tape on the top of
the pipe which threads onto the shiny flange peice on the inside of the
bowl. I have done this twice. Second time, I used the thicker teflon tape
and it still drips. I am afraid of overtightening the nut to stop the
drip. Is it possible that the drip is coming from the lower part of the
pipe, where the big rubber gasket is? Should I teflon tape there too?

I was also thinking of doubling up with pipe dope and tape.

Any suggestions, other than 'call a plumber', will be appreciated. This is
not rocket science, I just need a pointer or two.

Thanks,

Larry


-- This is not rocket science, I just need a pointer or two.

If this *were* rocket science, you would use duct tape, not teflon
tape.

That said, it would help if you knew exactly where the leak was. Is it
possible to wrap rags or paper towels around the various junctions of
the drain to determine where the leak is? If the upper most rag gets
wet first, then you've isolated the problem area, and so on. Let us
know.


GoHabsGo October 9th 07 08:43 PM

Drippy drain on new sink
 
DerbyDad03 wrote in

-- This is not rocket science, I just need a pointer or two.

If this *were* rocket science, you would use duct tape, not teflon
tape.

That said, it would help if you knew exactly where the leak was. Is it
possible to wrap rags or paper towels around the various junctions of
the drain to determine where the leak is? If the upper most rag gets
wet first, then you've isolated the problem area, and so on. Let us
know.


Thanks for the reply DD.

It's definately coming from the part closest to the bottom of the sink, ie
the junction where the rubber gasket is supposed to seal it, or possibly
leaking down the threads through the gasket and nut which holds the gasket.

Part of the problem is, even though there is likely a good seal inside the
bowl, the vent holes in the pipe are there which will overflow water to the
outside of the pipe and is likely dribbling through along the threads and
past the gasket. I think if I put some dope and tape where the pipe
threads through the gasket and nut, that would stop it?

Thanks,

Larry


Speedy Jim October 9th 07 09:15 PM

Drippy drain on new sink
 
GoHabsGo wrote:
Hi all,

I just installed a new counter with builtin sink made of mezanite and after
I installed the faucett and sink drain, there is a slow drip when using the
sink.

The sink is odd in that it has no vent for the drain, it is a simple bowl
with a hole in it. The drain pipe is made of some plastic material with a
rubber gasket that goes under the sink and tightened by a large nut on the
pipe. The pipe does have holes near the top which I assume are there to
accomodate a vent/overflow, which my sink does not have.

Instructions that came with the pipe said to use teflon tape on the top of
the pipe which threads onto the shiny flange peice on the inside of the
bowl. I have done this twice. Second time, I used the thicker teflon tape
and it still drips. I am afraid of overtightening the nut to stop the
drip. Is it possible that the drip is coming from the lower part of the
pipe, where the big rubber gasket is? Should I teflon tape there too?

I was also thinking of doubling up with pipe dope and tape.

Any suggestions, other than 'call a plumber', will be appreciated. This is
not rocket science, I just need a pointer or two.

Thanks,

Larry


The rubber gasket will rarely provide an
adequate seal. Use a smear of silicone sealant
on both sides of the gasket (dry surfaces first).
Use the same sealant on the fine threads of the
tailpiece.

Don't worry about the lack of an overflow;
that alone won't create any leakage.

Jim

mike October 9th 07 09:23 PM

Drippy drain on new sink
 
On Oct 9, 1:15 pm, Speedy Jim wrote:
GoHabsGo wrote:
Hi all,


I just installed a new counter with builtin sink made of mezanite and after
I installed the faucett and sink drain, there is a slow drip when using the
sink.


The sink is odd in that it has no vent for the drain, it is a simple bowl
with a hole in it. The drain pipe is made of some plastic material with a
rubber gasket that goes under the sink and tightened by a large nut on the
pipe. The pipe does have holes near the top which I assume are there to
accomodate a vent/overflow, which my sink does not have.


Instructions that came with the pipe said to use teflon tape on the top of
the pipe which threads onto the shiny flange peice on the inside of the
bowl. I have done this twice. Second time, I used the thicker teflon tape
and it still drips. I am afraid of overtightening the nut to stop the
drip. Is it possible that the drip is coming from the lower part of the
pipe, where the big rubber gasket is? Should I teflon tape there too?


I was also thinking of doubling up with pipe dope and tape.


Any suggestions, other than 'call a plumber', will be appreciated. This is
not rocket science, I just need a pointer or two.


Thanks,


Larry


The rubber gasket will rarely provide an
adequate seal. Use a smear of silicone sealant
on both sides of the gasket (dry surfaces first).
Use the same sealant on the fine threads of the
tailpiece.

Don't worry about the lack of an overflow;
that alone won't create any leakage.

Jim- Hide quoted text -

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Yup, I've seen numerous drain installation instructions give bad info,
as if they copied it from other bad sources. Often sinks have a
rubber seal that can't quite squish into the roots of the threads. So
the water follows a helical path down the threads and leaks out. It's
a dumb design. Silicone it.


Malcolm Hoar October 9th 07 09:25 PM

Drippy drain on new sink
 
In article . 131, GoHabsGo wrote:

Instructions that came with the pipe said to use teflon tape on the top of
the pipe which threads onto the shiny flange peice on the inside of the
bowl. I have done this twice. Second time, I used the thicker teflon tape
and it still drips. I am afraid of overtightening the nut to stop the
drip. Is it possible that the drip is coming from the lower part of the
pipe, where the big rubber gasket is? Should I teflon tape there too?


A real plumber would just take an exceedingly large wrench and
tighten until the leak stopped or something snapped ;-)

Seriously, you're probably undertightening the thing, but only
you can know/feel how far you're pushing it. I certainly don't
want to goad you into breaking anything. Just get everything
seated as well as you can with liberal amounts of teflon tape
and then tighten as far as you feel comfortable.


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