did you watch them ?
what did they do , did they vent it ?


bill wrote:
I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)hreplaced
after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the0refrigerant from
the old system. They didnt. Is this normal3practice? is it too costly? or
what? does the State turn a blind0eye? bill

I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)
replaced after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt. Is this normal
practice? is it too costly? or what? does the State turn a blind
eye? bill

"bill" wrote in message
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I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)
replaced after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt. Is this normal
practice? is it too costly? or what? does the State turn a blind
eye? bill

If they vented it you should call the EPA and report it.

Noozer wrote:
"bill" wrote in message
news
I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)
replaced after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt. Is this normal
practice? is it too costly? or what? does the State turn a blind
eye? bill

If they vented it you should call the EPA and report it.

They going to come and recapture it???

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On Oct 7, 8:03 am, bill wrote:
I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)
replaced after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt. Is this normal
practice? is it too costly? or what? does the State turn a blind
eye? bill

The EPA is in charge of this, not the State, but if you thought that
they would capture and reuse the refrigerant, you are mistaken as this
is not the way things are done. Often the old refrigerant is
contaminated with a variety of things, so it will not be used to
charge a new system. The new condenser is often pre-charged at the
factory, but might require some additional refrigerant, from a fresh
bottle.

As others have said, venting it would be a huge no-no.

JK

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Noozer wrote:
"bill" wrote in message
news
I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)
replaced after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt. Is this normal
practice? is it too costly? or what? does the State turn a blind
eye? bill

If they vented it you should call the EPA and report it.

They going to come and recapture it???

No. They take away the guys license and fine his employer.

Noozer wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ...
Noozer wrote:
....
If they vented it you should call the EPA and report it.
They going to come and recapture it???

No. They take away the guys license and fine his employer.

Miss the ?

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bill writes:

I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt.

It's possible to capture refrigerant into the compressor by running the
system while shutting the king valve, and then disconnect and cart away the
whole lot. Did they perhaps do that?

"bill" wrote in message
news
I had my 2.5T Sears a/c system (condenser, evap coil and lines)
replaced after 23 years service. I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt. Is this normal
practice? is it too costly? or what? does the State turn a blind
eye? bill


Call the EPA and ask them.

Nope. first thing they shut off the electric. They had some manifold
gages sitting next to the condenser. no other equipment. next thing
i saw was the suction and HP lines were cut. No valves are on the
condenser to capture the gas. It was R22. New system uses R410a


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:55:00 -0500, Richard J Kinch
wrote:

bill writes:

I was told they would capture the
refrigerant from the old system. They didnt.

It's possible to capture refrigerant into the compressor by running the
system while shutting the king valve, and then disconnect and cart away the
whole lot. Did they perhaps do that?

bill writes:

No valves are on the condenser to capture the gas.

You know what a king valve is and would recognize it?

"bill" wrote in message
...
Nope. first thing they shut off the electric. They had some manifold
gages sitting next to the condenser. no other equipment. next thing
i saw was the suction and HP lines were cut. No valves are on the
condenser to capture the gas. It was R22. New system uses R410a


Shame on them!!!!!
Unfortunately, that's one way the hacks cut corners to cut costs. :-(

"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
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bill writes:

No valves are on the condenser to capture the gas.

You know what a king valve is and would recognize it?


Doesn't matter if they cut the power FIRST.

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
"bill" wrote in message
...
Nope. first thing they shut off the electric. They had some
manifold gages sitting next to the condenser. no other equipment.
next thing i saw was the suction and HP lines were cut. No valves
are on the condenser to capture the gas. It was R22. New system
uses R410a


Shame on them!!!!!
Unfortunately, that's one way the hacks cut corners to cut costs. :-(

Not reclaiming the refrigerant is against the EPA Section 608 law. To bad
you didn't have a video. A small Honda 2000 EX [Generator] will run a
recovery machine nicely. [We do if it's needed.] I realize this is all
water under the bridge, but I think you're dealing with a contractor / HVAC
company who doens't care about the environment or the laws. I wonder what
else they don't care about?

--
Zyp

on the new unit it came with 2 valves which they opened after they
pulled a vaccum on the lines and evap coil. the old unit was
precharged also but it had no valves. the precharged line set pierced
the fitting when screwed together. so a king valve was not on the old
unit? what does this king valve look like?

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:14:41 -0500, Richard J Kinch
wrote:

bill writes:

No valves are on the condenser to capture the gas.

You know what a king valve is and would recognize it?

"bill" wrote in message
...
on the new unit it came with 2 valves which they opened after they
pulled a vaccum on the lines and evap coil. the old unit was
precharged also but it had no valves. the precharged line set pierced
the fitting when screwed together. so a king valve was not on the old
unit?


If it had self piecing connections (made by Areoquip) it doesn't have king
valves.

"Zyp" wrote in message
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kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
"bill" wrote in message
...
Nope. first thing they shut off the electric. They had some
manifold gages sitting next to the condenser. no other equipment.
next thing i saw was the suction and HP lines were cut. No valves
are on the condenser to capture the gas. It was R22. New system
uses R410a


Shame on them!!!!!
Unfortunately, that's one way the hacks cut corners to cut costs. :-(

Not reclaiming the refrigerant is against the EPA Section 608 law. To bad
you didn't have a video. A small Honda 2000 EX [Generator] will run a
recovery machine nicely. [We do if it's needed.] I realize this is all
water under the bridge, but I think you're dealing with a contractor /
HVAC
company who doens't care about the environment or the laws. I wonder what
else they don't care about?


Normally, nothing but their pocket book.