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My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.

When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday
morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used
about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the
windshield.

Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield?
Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again?
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on 10/6/2007 1:45 PM Slacker said the following:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.

When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday
morning, he said it was the nasty rainx.


I always listen to 15 year olds. After all, they know "Everything". :-)

What rainx? I bought the car used
about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the
windshield.

Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield?
Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again?


Rain-X does not damage glass. I have been using it for many years on
many vehicles, on all windows and mirrors.
Have you tried cleaning the glass with a good glass cleaner? How good
are your wipers? What's in your washer fluid cannister?

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I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that
adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly.

As mine deteriorated, I had some issues with patchy spots, and decided if I
ever got it
clean I would never use the stuff again.

You spots may be from oil from the engine or highway, dirty wipers, paint or
chemicals
which have drifted onto your car or maybe even more possibilities.

You may have to clean the glass with a good glass cleaner and replace your
wiper blades
to get relief. (I have some windows that are so badly filmed with
"something" I have never
been able to get them clean.)

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on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following:
I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that
adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly.


I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol (not
really burnt, as that would evaporate the alcohol, but if it could be burnt)


As mine deteriorated, I had some issues with patchy spots, and decided
if I ever got it
clean I would never use the stuff again.

You spots may be from oil from the engine or highway, dirty wipers,
paint or chemicals
which have drifted onto your car or maybe even more possibilities.

You may have to clean the glass with a good glass cleaner and replace
your wiper blades
to get relief. (I have some windows that are so badly filmed with
"something" I have never
been able to get them clean.)



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on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following:
I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that
adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly.


I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ...


Well, easy enough to find out...

Ingredient # 01
Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%)
CAS Number 7732185
Proprietary NO
Percent 90
Ingredient # 02
Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%)
CAS Number 67561
Proprietary N0
Percent 35
Ingredient # 03
Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM,
N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%)

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You might even want to wipe your windshield down with a solvent like paint
thinner (don't get it on anything else!) to remove any sort of films
ordinary cleaning won't and then wash it thoroughly with detergent to make
sure that in turn is removed.
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On Oct 6, 12:45 pm, Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.

When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday
morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used
about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the
windshield.

Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield?
Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again?


I have also been using RainX for many years. I tried the inside anti-
fog stuff and didn't like it at all (smeary).
I do not believe it has ANY silicone in it...it is more like a
solvent.
It allows you to see while driving in the rain without wipers...that
is a great safety factor.
(I own no interest or stocks in this product) ; )

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on 10/6/2007 3:34 PM dpb said the following:
willshak wrote:
on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following:
I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that
adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly.


I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ...


Well, easy enough to find out...

Ingredient # 01
Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%)
CAS Number 7732185
Proprietary NO
Percent 90
Ingredient # 02
Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%)
CAS Number 67561
Proprietary N0
Percent 35
Ingredient # 03
Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM,
N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%)

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I have also been using RainX for many years. I tried the inside anti-
fog stuff and didn't like it at all (smeary).
I do not believe it has ANY silicone in it...it is more like a
solvent.
It allows you to see while driving in the rain without wipers...that
is a great safety factor.
(I own no interest or stocks in this product) ; )


I had believed it contained a siliconeglycol or similar, but apparently not.
At any rate, I dont like it for my windshield.

Quaternary amines have long been used inside the windows to break the
surface tension and allow droplets to flow together in a clear film rather
than a fog. The composition cited earlier looks like an ester quat. Just
from the formulation, I would not have suspected it would be persistent
enough to last on the exterior of a windshield. Live and learn.

I have thought about trying it in my bathroom on the shower tiles. Maybe
it would help them shed water, etc.

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willshak wrote:

on 10/6/2007 3:34 PM dpb said the following:
willshak wrote:
on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following:
I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that
adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly.

I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ...


Well, easy enough to find out...

Ingredient # 01
Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%)
CAS Number 7732185
Proprietary NO
Percent 90
Ingredient # 02
Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%)
CAS Number 67561
Proprietary N0
Percent 35
Ingredient # 03
Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM,
N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%)

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Let us know when you get your water and methanol mixed up to 125%...


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on 10/6/2007 4:53 PM Pete C. said the following:
willshak wrote:

on 10/6/2007 3:34 PM dpb said the following:

willshak wrote:

on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following:

I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that
adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly.

I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ...

Well, easy enough to find out...

Ingredient # 01
Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%)
CAS Number 7732185
Proprietary NO
Percent 90
Ingredient # 02
Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%)
CAS Number 67561
Proprietary N0
Percent 35
Ingredient # 03
Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM,
N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%)

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Let us know when you get your water and methanol mixed up to 125%...


I'll use a bigger container. :-)

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OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x
has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said.

They told me there are only two solutions.
Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty.
Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent.

One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished
they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid.

Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their
recommendation to gunk it off.

I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the
windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off.

Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner
seemed to dry up pretty quickly)?
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OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x
has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said.

They told me there are only two solutions.
Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty.
Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent.

One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished
they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid.


Is Kragen some "we are experts on everything" big box chain?

Rain-x is actually a good product and works well.

You need to meticulously clean the windows before you apply it. I have
vehicles parked outside and use it mainly for the winter. Frost/ice etc
is much easier to remove.

The first time I used it I cleaned the windows with the popular blue
water in the squirt bottle and got the patchy results mentioned. The
next time I did a better job cleaning the windows and there were no
patches. I have been doing it for at least 5 or 6 winters with good
results.



Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their
recommendation to gunk it off.

I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the
windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off.

Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner
seemed to dry up pretty quickly)?

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I've used Rain-X for decades on numerous vehicles. I've never had the
stuff go blotchy, or spotty as it loses its effectiveness, so what you
have on your glass is no doubt something else?

After a few months, the product is gone off the glass.

All it is, is alcohol, and water, and you can get somewhat similar
results by using straight 91% pure alcohol.

You apply it like a wax, let dry, wipe off with a clean damp towel, and
then final buff with a clean dry towel. I swear by this stuff. It's
saved my hide a couple of times. Mark



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Sure, one of the very best glass cleaners there is, is Acetone. Get it
on your paint though, and you can kiss your paintjob bye bye. Same with
Plastics. Mark

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On Oct 6, 4:34 pm, George wrote:
Slacker wrote:
OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x
has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said.


They told me there are only two solutions.
Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty.
Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent.


One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished
they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid.


Is Kragen some "we are experts on everything" big box chain?

Rain-x is actually a good product and works well.

You need to meticulously clean the windows before you apply it. I have
vehicles parked outside and use it mainly for the winter. Frost/ice etc
is much easier to remove.

The first time I used it I cleaned the windows with the popular blue
water in the squirt bottle and got the patchy results mentioned. The
next time I did a better job cleaning the windows and there were no
patches. I have been doing it for at least 5 or 6 winters with good
results.

Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their
recommendation to gunk it off.


I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the
windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off.


Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner
seemed to dry up pretty quickly)?


Andy Rooney once got a sample of RainX and said "No product could do
what it claimed"...he had to apologize on another 60 minutes broadcast.

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Mark D wrote:

I've used Rain-X for decades on numerous vehicles. I've never had the
stuff go blotchy, or spotty as it loses its effectiveness, so what you
have on your glass is no doubt something else?

After a few months, the product is gone off the glass.

All it is, is alcohol, and water, and you can get somewhat similar
results by using straight 91% pure alcohol.

You apply it like a wax, let dry, wipe off with a clean damp towel, and
then final buff with a clean dry towel. I swear by this stuff. It's
saved my hide a couple of times. Mark


The water and alcohol are the solvent / carrier for the:

BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM,
N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE
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OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x
has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said.

They told me there are only two solutions.
Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty.
Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent.

One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished
they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid.

Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their
recommendation to gunk it off.

I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the
windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off.

Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner
seemed to dry up pretty quickly)?


Suggest you stop bashing Rain-X since you don't even know for sure if
that is what is on your windshield. It is far more likely that you have
some wax on your windshield, perhaps from a carwash. Plenty of us have
used Rain-X for years and never had anything but good results.
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on 10/6/2007 5:37 PM Mark D said the following:
I've used Rain-X for decades on numerous vehicles. I've never had the
stuff go blotchy, or spotty as it loses its effectiveness, so what you
have on your glass is no doubt something else?

After a few months, the product is gone off the glass.

All it is, is alcohol, and water, and you can get somewhat similar
results by using straight 91% pure alcohol.

You apply it like a wax, let dry, wipe off with a clean damp towel, and
then final buff with a clean dry towel. I swear by this stuff. It's
saved my hide a couple of times. Mark


Once on a whim, I drove 45 miles on my commute home in a rainstorm and
never used my wipers. The Rain-X is not so good at misty rain, or when
going slow, but at 55 mph or better, the rain shoots up the windshield
and is gone faster than the wipers could swipe it..

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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:47:51 -0700, wrote:

Andy Rooney once got a sample of RainX and said "No product could do
what it claimed"...he had to apologize on another 60 minutes broadcast.


I can't find any reference to this "Andy Rooney" apologizing about
"Rain-X"
in the entire web.

The closest I could find was this very tough to read law paper which
discusses Andy Rooney and Rain-X in the footnotes but nowhere else.
http://law.fordham.edu/publications/...flspub6663.pdf

Can someone cite a reference?

No Andy Rooney references, but I can say that RainX does work when first
applied, at least. But the glass has gotta be clean (and this is the step
most people apparently skip), you have to buff it out after applying, to
remove the excess. Once when visiting my sister and BIL, as I was packing up
for the long drive home, he was trying to be nice and insisted on doing my
windshield. (a storm was brewing, etc...) Well, for my sister's sake, I let
him do it, and to my surprise it has actually worked and held up pretty
well. I had tried it several years before, and had the same experience
others reported, of smears. Of course, this car spends most of its time
parked in garage, so my experience may not be typical. (I drive the beater
minivan around town, and only use the 'good' car for road trips.)

aem sends....


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Rain-x is actually a good product and works well.


Yes.

You need to meticulously clean the windows before you apply it. I have
vehicles parked outside and use it mainly for the winter. Frost/ice etc
is much easier to remove.


Drive in a Florida rain storm that drowns a frog, so heavy one has to
pull over and wait for the rain to stop. You will see the benefit.


The first time I used it I cleaned the windows with the popular blue
water in the squirt bottle and got the patchy results mentioned. The
next time I did a better job cleaning the windows and there were no
patches. I have been doing it for at least 5 or 6 winters with good
results.


IIRC, the first application requires two or three applications that
are allowed to dry between coats. The window has to be clean - (try
some coke-cola) to cut real grime.

Second application - clean the window as normal and re-apply the
rain-x


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On 6 Oct, 13:45, Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.

When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday
morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used
about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the
windshield.

Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield?
Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again?


Check and see what's in your windshield washer reservoir.

Instead of the blue windshield washer solution, I use an orange washer
solution that contains Rain-X.

The stuff will indeed make your windshield "foggy" when applied in
certain weather conditions, and the sun will indeed make it hard to
see. I find that when the windshield gets foggy in sunny conditions,
I have to use the sprayers to keep the windshield wet so I can see.
The wipers themselves will not clear the fog.

My wife and son stopped using it for this very reason. I, on the other
hand, have always hated the constant flap flap flap of wipers and am
willing to put up with the foggy streaks for the pleasure of driving
65...errr...I mean 55 MPH in the rain without wipers.


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Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.

When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday
morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used
about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the
windshield.

Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield?
Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again?


You could try cleaning it with 0000 steel wool and aerosol window
cleaner (I prefer Stoner's Invisible Glass) that is my regimen for hard
to clean windows. If it is still spotty you might want to follow up
with some kind of polish.

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To find what is inside Rain-X, I first tried calling Sopus Products in
Houston at 800-416-1600 but they are only open 8am to 5pm Central time.
Their web page says Rain-X is composed of methanol
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...nds&id=2003038

Looking deeper, I then tried calling Kafko International, Ltd. 800-528-0334
in Illinois
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=11013001
Interestingly, they say Rain-X is isopropanol and sulfuric acid!

I look again at Shell Oil's Rain-X only to find it's made out of
"unspecified surfactants" and water!
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=19037001

Back at Pennzoil-Quaker State, we find Rain-X composed of clay, alcohol,
and emulsifiers!
Clays = 1-10%
Ethanol/SD Alcohol 40 = 70-95%
Isopropanol = 1-10%
Thickening agent(s) = 1-5%
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...nds&id=2003042

Moving to Scottsdale Arizona, calling Unelko Corp at 800-528-3149, I find
it's got a whole recipe of "anes", "ols", "acids", and "ones"...
Ethanol/SD Alcohol 40 = 86%
Isopropanol = 4%
Ethyl sulfate = 1%
Polydimethylsiloxanes Silicon oil = 9%
Silicic acid (H4SiO4), tetraethyl ester, hydrolysis products with
chlorotrimethylsilane = 9%
Siloxanes and Silicones, di-Me, hydroxy-terminated = 9%

What's with the ingredients of Rain-X?
Is it basically snake oil and placebo or does it actually have a consistent
consistency?
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:45:39 -0700, Slacker wrote:


My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.


Sell the car. You're too stupid to own one.

1) you couldn't handle instructions written for somebody with a 4th grade
education and successfully followed by a hundred thousand people. You used
too ****ing much.

2) you couldn't figure out how to open a web browser, point it to a search
site like google, and then come up with a clever search string like "how
does an idiot like me remove rain-x?"
Or perhaps just the last two words; first match:
http://www.windtrax.com/featured_products/25_rain-x.asp
It's water soluble. Use water and a cotton cloth.

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To find what is inside Rain-X, I first tried ,,,


What's with the ingredients of Rain-X?
Is it basically snake oil and placebo or does it actually have a consistent
consistency?


It's proprietary formula so not surprising to not find precise
formulation. I posted the constituents from the MSDS earlier in the
thread. It's a water/methanol carrier w/ a small amount of another
organic as the water shedding agent...

In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations,
look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range
of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above.

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OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x
has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said.

They told me there are only two solutions.
Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty.
Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent.

One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished
they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid.

Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their
recommendation to gunk it off.

I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the
windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off.

Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner
seemed to dry up pretty quickly)?


Real brilliant guys at Kragen!

Sounds more like you have dirty glass with some wax spotted on it.

You want to clean the glass and remove any crud on it, Go and buy some
ammonia based glass cleaner. Apply it and wipe the glass down really
good with it. Then use some crumpled newspaper to buff it dry. The glass
will be about as clean as you can get.
Replace the wiper blades as well.

Rain-X works very well if applied to CLEAN glass. It also has removal
instructions on the bottle!


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Slacker wrote:
To find what is inside Rain-X, I first tried ,,,


What's with the ingredients of Rain-X?
Is it basically snake oil and placebo or does it actually have a consistent
consistency?


It's proprietary formula so not surprising to not find precise
formulation. I posted the constituents from the MSDS earlier in the
thread. It's a water/methanol carrier w/ a small amount of another
organic as the water shedding agent...

In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations,
look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range
of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above.


Yes sir. Trade secret stuff.

Did you say once? Bring in the Black Hawks or words to that affect?

The MSDS I recall mentioned protected formulas. Secret stuff. Never
clear to the consumer.

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"Slacker" wrote in message news:8_VNi.1349
Moving to Scottsdale Arizona, calling Unelko Corp at 800-528-3149, I find
it's got a whole recipe of "anes", "ols", "acids", and "ones"...
Ethanol/SD Alcohol 40 = 86%
Isopropanol = 4%
Ethyl sulfate = 1%
Polydimethylsiloxanes Silicon oil = 9%


So there MAY be silicones in RainX???

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give the windshield a good scrubbin' with an SOS pad. That'll get rid of
the rainx and the bugs.


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My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off
film
that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the
morning. The rear and side windows are fine.

When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday
morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used
about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the
windshield.

Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield?
Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again?



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In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations,
look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range
of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above.


Actually, you are quite wrong. It is NOT required to list ingredients and
general
range. It is only required to list HAZARDOUS ingredients. You can
completely
avoid registering inert compounds, if you wish.

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Rain-x is actually a good product and works well.



Not for everyone, dude. Some like it, some hate it.
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George wrote:
Rain-x is actually a good product and works well.


Glad you like it. The one time I tried it, I got a yellowish film all over
the windshield that was pure hell when the sun was in front of the car.
Really reduced my visibility under those conditions.

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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
Instead of the blue windshield washer solution, I use an orange washer
solution that contains Rain-X.

The stuff will indeed make your windshield "foggy" when applied in
certain weather conditions, and the sun will indeed make it hard to
see. I find that when the windshield gets foggy in sunny conditions,
I have to use the sprayers to keep the windshield wet so I can see.
The wipers themselves will not clear the fog.


I've had that fogging problems with every solution I"ve ever used. I do now
use the RainX stuff because it works well in really cold weather, unlike the
blue crap. I had doubts when I first bought it (store was out of Prestone)
but now I use it all winter and their green stuff in summer.



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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message

You could try cleaning it with 0000 steel wool and aerosol window cleaner
(I prefer Stoner's Invisible Glass) that is my regimen for hard to clean
windows. If it is still spotty you might want to follow up with some kind
of polish.


Careful, that steel wool can ruin many new windshields. Some seem much more
prone to scratching than they used to be. Perhaps they put some sort of
coating now?


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In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations,
look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range
of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above.


MSDS?
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:42:49 -0500, dpb wrote:

In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations,
look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range
of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above.


MSDS?


Material Safety Data Sheet.
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"Steve Barker LT" wrote in message
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give the windshield a good scrubbin' with an SOS pad. That'll get rid of
the rainx and the bugs.


NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to do that all the time on my older cars. Then I did a tiny spot on
my '01 LeSabre and it scratched the hell out of it.


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