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Did Rain-x ruin my windshield or is it normal (how to make it better)?
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine
combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the windshield. Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield? Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again? |
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on 10/6/2007 1:45 PM Slacker said the following:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. I always listen to 15 year olds. After all, they know "Everything". :-) What rainx? I bought the car used about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the windshield. Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield? Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again? Rain-X does not damage glass. I have been using it for many years on many vehicles, on all windows and mirrors. Have you tried cleaning the glass with a good glass cleaner? How good are your wipers? What's in your washer fluid cannister? -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a
silicone compound that adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly. As mine deteriorated, I had some issues with patchy spots, and decided if I ever got it clean I would never use the stuff again. You spots may be from oil from the engine or highway, dirty wipers, paint or chemicals which have drifted onto your car or maybe even more possibilities. You may have to clean the glass with a good glass cleaner and replace your wiper blades to get relief. (I have some windows that are so badly filmed with "something" I have never been able to get them clean.) |
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on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following:
I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a silicone compound that adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly. I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol (not really burnt, as that would evaporate the alcohol, but if it could be burnt) As mine deteriorated, I had some issues with patchy spots, and decided if I ever got it clean I would never use the stuff again. You spots may be from oil from the engine or highway, dirty wipers, paint or chemicals which have drifted onto your car or maybe even more possibilities. You may have to clean the glass with a good glass cleaner and replace your wiper blades to get relief. (I have some windows that are so badly filmed with "something" I have never been able to get them clean.) -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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willshak wrote:
on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following: I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a silicone compound that adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly. I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ... Well, easy enough to find out... Ingredient # 01 Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%) CAS Number 7732185 Proprietary NO Percent 90 Ingredient # 02 Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%) CAS Number 67561 Proprietary N0 Percent 35 Ingredient # 03 Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM, N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%) -- |
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Did Rain-x ruin my windshield or is it normal (how to make it better)?
You might even want to wipe your windshield down with a solvent like paint
thinner (don't get it on anything else!) to remove any sort of films ordinary cleaning won't and then wash it thoroughly with detergent to make sure that in turn is removed. |
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On Oct 6, 12:45 pm, Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the windshield. Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield? Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again? I have also been using RainX for many years. I tried the inside anti- fog stuff and didn't like it at all (smeary). I do not believe it has ANY silicone in it...it is more like a solvent. It allows you to see while driving in the rain without wipers...that is a great safety factor. (I own no interest or stocks in this product) ; ) |
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on 10/6/2007 3:34 PM dpb said the following:
willshak wrote: on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following: I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a silicone compound that adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly. I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ... Well, easy enough to find out... Ingredient # 01 Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%) CAS Number 7732185 Proprietary NO Percent 90 Ingredient # 02 Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%) CAS Number 67561 Proprietary N0 Percent 35 Ingredient # 03 Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM, N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%) -- Cool, I'll mix my own! -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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wrote in message n I have also been using RainX for many years. I tried the inside anti- fog stuff and didn't like it at all (smeary). I do not believe it has ANY silicone in it...it is more like a solvent. It allows you to see while driving in the rain without wipers...that is a great safety factor. (I own no interest or stocks in this product) ; ) I had believed it contained a siliconeglycol or similar, but apparently not. At any rate, I dont like it for my windshield. Quaternary amines have long been used inside the windows to break the surface tension and allow droplets to flow together in a clear film rather than a fog. The composition cited earlier looks like an ester quat. Just from the formulation, I would not have suspected it would be persistent enough to last on the exterior of a windshield. Live and learn. I have thought about trying it in my bathroom on the shower tiles. Maybe it would help them shed water, etc. |
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willshak wrote:
on 10/6/2007 3:34 PM dpb said the following: willshak wrote: on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following: I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a silicone compound that adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly. I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ... Well, easy enough to find out... Ingredient # 01 Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%) CAS Number 7732185 Proprietary NO Percent 90 Ingredient # 02 Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%) CAS Number 67561 Proprietary N0 Percent 35 Ingredient # 03 Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM, N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%) -- Cool, I'll mix my own! -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ Let us know when you get your water and methanol mixed up to 125%... |
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on 10/6/2007 4:53 PM Pete C. said the following:
willshak wrote: on 10/6/2007 3:34 PM dpb said the following: willshak wrote: on 10/6/2007 2:52 PM hls said the following: I used RainX once and didnt really care for it. It is, I believe, a silicone compound that adsorbs upon your windshield glass and makes it shed water quickly. I don't know what it is made of, but it smells like burnt alcohol ... Well, easy enough to find out... Ingredient # 01 Ingredient Name *WATER (50-90%) CAS Number 7732185 Proprietary NO Percent 90 Ingredient # 02 Ingredient Name METHANOL (20-35%) CAS Number 67561 Proprietary N0 Percent 35 Ingredient # 03 Ingredient Name BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM, N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%) -- Cool, I'll mix my own! -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ Let us know when you get your water and methanol mixed up to 125%... I'll use a bigger container. :-) -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x
has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said. They told me there are only two solutions. Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty. Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent. One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid. Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their recommendation to gunk it off. I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off. Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner seemed to dry up pretty quickly)? |
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Slacker wrote:
OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said. They told me there are only two solutions. Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty. Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent. One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid. Is Kragen some "we are experts on everything" big box chain? Rain-x is actually a good product and works well. You need to meticulously clean the windows before you apply it. I have vehicles parked outside and use it mainly for the winter. Frost/ice etc is much easier to remove. The first time I used it I cleaned the windows with the popular blue water in the squirt bottle and got the patchy results mentioned. The next time I did a better job cleaning the windows and there were no patches. I have been doing it for at least 5 or 6 winters with good results. Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their recommendation to gunk it off. I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off. Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner seemed to dry up pretty quickly)? |
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I've used Rain-X for decades on numerous vehicles. I've never had the
stuff go blotchy, or spotty as it loses its effectiveness, so what you have on your glass is no doubt something else? After a few months, the product is gone off the glass. All it is, is alcohol, and water, and you can get somewhat similar results by using straight 91% pure alcohol. You apply it like a wax, let dry, wipe off with a clean damp towel, and then final buff with a clean dry towel. I swear by this stuff. It's saved my hide a couple of times. Mark |
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Sure, one of the very best glass cleaners there is, is Acetone. Get it
on your paint though, and you can kiss your paintjob bye bye. Same with Plastics. Mark |
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On Oct 6, 4:34 pm, George wrote:
Slacker wrote: OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said. They told me there are only two solutions. Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty. Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent. One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid. Is Kragen some "we are experts on everything" big box chain? Rain-x is actually a good product and works well. You need to meticulously clean the windows before you apply it. I have vehicles parked outside and use it mainly for the winter. Frost/ice etc is much easier to remove. The first time I used it I cleaned the windows with the popular blue water in the squirt bottle and got the patchy results mentioned. The next time I did a better job cleaning the windows and there were no patches. I have been doing it for at least 5 or 6 winters with good results. Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their recommendation to gunk it off. I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off. Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner seemed to dry up pretty quickly)? Andy Rooney once got a sample of RainX and said "No product could do what it claimed"...he had to apologize on another 60 minutes broadcast. |
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Mark D wrote:
I've used Rain-X for decades on numerous vehicles. I've never had the stuff go blotchy, or spotty as it loses its effectiveness, so what you have on your glass is no doubt something else? After a few months, the product is gone off the glass. All it is, is alcohol, and water, and you can get somewhat similar results by using straight 91% pure alcohol. You apply it like a wax, let dry, wipe off with a clean damp towel, and then final buff with a clean dry towel. I swear by this stuff. It's saved my hide a couple of times. Mark The water and alcohol are the solvent / carrier for the: BENZENEMETHANAMINIUM, N-[2-[(2,6-DIMETHYLPHENYL)AMINO]-2-OXOETHYL]-N,N-DIETHYL-, BENZOATE (1%) |
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Slacker wrote:
OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said. They told me there are only two solutions. Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty. Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent. One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid. Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their recommendation to gunk it off. I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off. Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner seemed to dry up pretty quickly)? Suggest you stop bashing Rain-X since you don't even know for sure if that is what is on your windshield. It is far more likely that you have some wax on your windshield, perhaps from a carwash. Plenty of us have used Rain-X for years and never had anything but good results. |
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:47:51 -0700, wrote:
Andy Rooney once got a sample of RainX and said "No product could do what it claimed"...he had to apologize on another 60 minutes broadcast. I can't find any reference to this "Andy Rooney" apologizing about "Rain-X" in the entire web. The closest I could find was this very tough to read law paper which discusses Andy Rooney and Rain-X in the footnotes but nowhere else. http://law.fordham.edu/publications/...flspub6663.pdf Can someone cite a reference? |
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on 10/6/2007 5:37 PM Mark D said the following:
I've used Rain-X for decades on numerous vehicles. I've never had the stuff go blotchy, or spotty as it loses its effectiveness, so what you have on your glass is no doubt something else? After a few months, the product is gone off the glass. All it is, is alcohol, and water, and you can get somewhat similar results by using straight 91% pure alcohol. You apply it like a wax, let dry, wipe off with a clean damp towel, and then final buff with a clean dry towel. I swear by this stuff. It's saved my hide a couple of times. Mark Once on a whim, I drove 45 miles on my commute home in a rainstorm and never used my wipers. The Rain-X is not so good at misty rain, or when going slow, but at 55 mph or better, the rain shoots up the windshield and is gone faster than the wipers could swipe it.. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"Slacker" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:47:51 -0700, wrote: Andy Rooney once got a sample of RainX and said "No product could do what it claimed"...he had to apologize on another 60 minutes broadcast. I can't find any reference to this "Andy Rooney" apologizing about "Rain-X" in the entire web. The closest I could find was this very tough to read law paper which discusses Andy Rooney and Rain-X in the footnotes but nowhere else. http://law.fordham.edu/publications/...flspub6663.pdf Can someone cite a reference? No Andy Rooney references, but I can say that RainX does work when first applied, at least. But the glass has gotta be clean (and this is the step most people apparently skip), you have to buff it out after applying, to remove the excess. Once when visiting my sister and BIL, as I was packing up for the long drive home, he was trying to be nice and insisted on doing my windshield. (a storm was brewing, etc...) Well, for my sister's sake, I let him do it, and to my surprise it has actually worked and held up pretty well. I had tried it several years before, and had the same experience others reported, of smears. Of course, this car spends most of its time parked in garage, so my experience may not be typical. (I drive the beater minivan around town, and only use the 'good' car for road trips.) aem sends.... |
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:34:14 -0400, George
wrote: Rain-x is actually a good product and works well. Yes. You need to meticulously clean the windows before you apply it. I have vehicles parked outside and use it mainly for the winter. Frost/ice etc is much easier to remove. Drive in a Florida rain storm that drowns a frog, so heavy one has to pull over and wait for the rain to stop. You will see the benefit. The first time I used it I cleaned the windows with the popular blue water in the squirt bottle and got the patchy results mentioned. The next time I did a better job cleaning the windows and there were no patches. I have been doing it for at least 5 or 6 winters with good results. IIRC, the first application requires two or three applications that are allowed to dry between coats. The window has to be clean - (try some coke-cola) to cut real grime. Second application - clean the window as normal and re-apply the rain-x -- Oren "I don't have anything against work. I just figure, why deprive somebody who really loves it." |
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On 6 Oct, 13:45, Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the windshield. Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield? Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again? Check and see what's in your windshield washer reservoir. Instead of the blue windshield washer solution, I use an orange washer solution that contains Rain-X. The stuff will indeed make your windshield "foggy" when applied in certain weather conditions, and the sun will indeed make it hard to see. I find that when the windshield gets foggy in sunny conditions, I have to use the sprayers to keep the windshield wet so I can see. The wipers themselves will not clear the fog. My wife and son stopped using it for this very reason. I, on the other hand, have always hated the constant flap flap flap of wipers and am willing to put up with the foggy streaks for the pleasure of driving 65...errr...I mean 55 MPH in the rain without wipers. |
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Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the windshield. Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield? Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again? You could try cleaning it with 0000 steel wool and aerosol window cleaner (I prefer Stoner's Invisible Glass) that is my regimen for hard to clean windows. If it is still spotty you might want to follow up with some kind of polish. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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To find what is inside Rain-X, I first tried calling Sopus Products in
Houston at 800-416-1600 but they are only open 8am to 5pm Central time. Their web page says Rain-X is composed of methanol http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...nds&id=2003038 Looking deeper, I then tried calling Kafko International, Ltd. 800-528-0334 in Illinois http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=11013001 Interestingly, they say Rain-X is isopropanol and sulfuric acid! I look again at Shell Oil's Rain-X only to find it's made out of "unspecified surfactants" and water! http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=19037001 Back at Pennzoil-Quaker State, we find Rain-X composed of clay, alcohol, and emulsifiers! Clays = 1-10% Ethanol/SD Alcohol 40 = 70-95% Isopropanol = 1-10% Thickening agent(s) = 1-5% http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...nds&id=2003042 Moving to Scottsdale Arizona, calling Unelko Corp at 800-528-3149, I find it's got a whole recipe of "anes", "ols", "acids", and "ones"... Ethanol/SD Alcohol 40 = 86% Isopropanol = 4% Ethyl sulfate = 1% Polydimethylsiloxanes Silicon oil = 9% Silicic acid (H4SiO4), tetraethyl ester, hydrolysis products with chlorotrimethylsilane = 9% Siloxanes and Silicones, di-Me, hydroxy-terminated = 9% What's with the ingredients of Rain-X? Is it basically snake oil and placebo or does it actually have a consistent consistency? |
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:45:39 -0700, Slacker wrote:
My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. Sell the car. You're too stupid to own one. 1) you couldn't handle instructions written for somebody with a 4th grade education and successfully followed by a hundred thousand people. You used too ****ing much. 2) you couldn't figure out how to open a web browser, point it to a search site like google, and then come up with a clever search string like "how does an idiot like me remove rain-x?" Or perhaps just the last two words; first match: http://www.windtrax.com/featured_products/25_rain-x.asp It's water soluble. Use water and a cotton cloth. |
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Slacker wrote:
To find what is inside Rain-X, I first tried ,,, What's with the ingredients of Rain-X? Is it basically snake oil and placebo or does it actually have a consistent consistency? It's proprietary formula so not surprising to not find precise formulation. I posted the constituents from the MSDS earlier in the thread. It's a water/methanol carrier w/ a small amount of another organic as the water shedding agent... In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations, look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above. -- |
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Slacker wrote:
OK. I went to the local Kragen and all the guys at the counter said rain-x has this horrid problem very often. They get it all the time, they said. They told me there are only two solutions. Keep putting rainx on all the time so the film never gets spotty. Or, remove the rainx with gunk or brake cleaner or other serious solvent. One guy in the store who was listening sympathetically said that he wished they never invented the stuff, it's so horrid. Since my windshield had already gone spotty on me, I went with their recommendation to gunk it off. I bought the recommended brake cleaner and am letting it soak on the windshield as we speak. Hopefully the rain-x spots will dissolve off. Do you know of any better solution to remove rain-x (the brake cleaner seemed to dry up pretty quickly)? Real brilliant guys at Kragen! Sounds more like you have dirty glass with some wax spotted on it. You want to clean the glass and remove any crud on it, Go and buy some ammonia based glass cleaner. Apply it and wipe the glass down really good with it. Then use some crumpled newspaper to buff it dry. The glass will be about as clean as you can get. Replace the wiper blades as well. Rain-X works very well if applied to CLEAN glass. It also has removal instructions on the bottle! -- Steve W. Near Cooperstown, New York NRA Member Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh, he'd have become a vegan. |
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:42:49 -0500, dpb wrote:
Slacker wrote: To find what is inside Rain-X, I first tried ,,, What's with the ingredients of Rain-X? Is it basically snake oil and placebo or does it actually have a consistent consistency? It's proprietary formula so not surprising to not find precise formulation. I posted the constituents from the MSDS earlier in the thread. It's a water/methanol carrier w/ a small amount of another organic as the water shedding agent... In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations, look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above. Yes sir. Trade secret stuff. Did you say once? Bring in the Black Hawks or words to that affect? The MSDS I recall mentioned protected formulas. Secret stuff. Never clear to the consumer. -- Oren "I don't have anything against work. I just figure, why deprive somebody who really loves it." |
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"Slacker" wrote in message news:8_VNi.1349 Moving to Scottsdale Arizona, calling Unelko Corp at 800-528-3149, I find it's got a whole recipe of "anes", "ols", "acids", and "ones"... Ethanol/SD Alcohol 40 = 86% Isopropanol = 4% Ethyl sulfate = 1% Polydimethylsiloxanes Silicon oil = 9% So there MAY be silicones in RainX??? |
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give the windshield a good scrubbin' with an SOS pad. That'll get rid of
the rainx and the bugs. s "Slacker" wrote in message ... My windshield is fine except in the morning when the dew and sunshine combine to make it impossible to see due to this naughty spotty on/off film that I just can't windshield wipe off. Even the mirrors are spotty in the morning. The rear and side windows are fine. When I was driving the neighbor's fifteen year old to school yesterday morning, he said it was the nasty rainx. What rainx? I bought the car used about six months ago and I never used anything with rain x on the windshield. Is rain-x the culprit? If so, how do I save the windshield? Is there a way to remove this rain x stuff so I can see again? |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations, look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above. Actually, you are quite wrong. It is NOT required to list ingredients and general range. It is only required to list HAZARDOUS ingredients. You can completely avoid registering inert compounds, if you wish. |
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"George" wrote in message Rain-x is actually a good product and works well. Not for everyone, dude. Some like it, some hate it. |
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George wrote:
Rain-x is actually a good product and works well. Glad you like it. The one time I tried it, I got a yellowish film all over the windshield that was pure hell when the sun was in front of the car. Really reduced my visibility under those conditions. -- One phrase that explains 99% of all idiot driving: "You can't block traffic if you're not in the way." |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message Instead of the blue windshield washer solution, I use an orange washer solution that contains Rain-X. The stuff will indeed make your windshield "foggy" when applied in certain weather conditions, and the sun will indeed make it hard to see. I find that when the windshield gets foggy in sunny conditions, I have to use the sprayers to keep the windshield wet so I can see. The wipers themselves will not clear the fog. I've had that fogging problems with every solution I"ve ever used. I do now use the RainX stuff because it works well in really cold weather, unlike the blue crap. I had doubts when I first bought it (store was out of Prestone) but now I use it all winter and their green stuff in summer. |
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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message You could try cleaning it with 0000 steel wool and aerosol window cleaner (I prefer Stoner's Invisible Glass) that is my regimen for hard to clean windows. If it is still spotty you might want to follow up with some kind of polish. Careful, that steel wool can ruin many new windshields. Some seem much more prone to scratching than they used to be. Perhaps they put some sort of coating now? |
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:42:49 -0500, dpb wrote:
In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations, look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above. MSDS? |
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Slacker wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:42:49 -0500, dpb wrote: In general, to find out stuff like this about proprietary formulations, look for the MSDS -- it's required to list ingredients and general range of amounts although not exact formulation as noted above. MSDS? Material Safety Data Sheet. |
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"Steve Barker LT" wrote in message ... give the windshield a good scrubbin' with an SOS pad. That'll get rid of the rainx and the bugs. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I used to do that all the time on my older cars. Then I did a tiny spot on my '01 LeSabre and it scratched the hell out of it. |
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