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hi, bought a new house here in FL, I have a long screen porch with
aluminum around the bottom, about 1 inch.. when it really rains I end up with a lot of standing water in one corner.. I am thinking of drilling 2 holes, one on each side of corner to drain.. any one know a better way?? thanks Jack |
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On 5 Oct, 13:45, "
wrote: hi, bought a new house here in FL, I have a long screen porch with aluminum around the bottom, about 1 inch.. when it really rains I end up with a lot of standing water in one corner.. I am thinking of drilling 2 holes, one on each side of corner to drain.. any one know a better way?? thanks What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. |
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On Oct 5, 1:58 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 5 Oct, 13:45, " wrote: hi, bought a new house here in FL, I have a long screen porch with aluminum around the bottom, about 1 inch.. when it really rains I end up with a lot of standing water in one corner.. I am thinking of drilling 2 holes, one on each side of corner to drain.. any one know a better way?? thanks What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. thanks, it is a ground floor, poolside porch, with tile floor, and alumiun around as frame... and after the last few days of heavy rain, it was as deep as the bottom soport, about an inch, and an area 4 squair tiles... I know water will get in, but it cant be good to have standing water for days on grout and stuff.... |
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On 5 Oct, 14:23, "
wrote: On Oct 5, 1:58 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On 5 Oct, 13:45, " wrote: hi, bought a new house here in FL, I have a long screen porch with aluminum around the bottom, about 1 inch.. when it really rains I end up with a lot of standing water in one corner.. I am thinking of drilling 2 holes, one on each side of corner to drain.. any one know a better way?? thanks What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. thanks, it is a ground floor, poolside porch, with tile floor, and alumiun around as frame... and after the last few days of heavy rain, it was as deep as the bottom soport, about an inch, and an area 4 squair tiles... I know water will get in, but it cant be good to have standing water for days on grout and stuff....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'd be even more concerned about drilling through the tile, exposing the adhesive and subfloor to moisture. It might be possible to drill a hole large enough for a drain of some type, complete with pipe, so that the water never hits the subfloor. You'd need to seal around the top of the drain so the water only went into it, not under it, but it would be doable. |
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On Oct 5, 2:33 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 5 Oct, 14:23, " wrote: On Oct 5, 1:58 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On 5 Oct, 13:45, " wrote: hi, bought a new house here in FL, I have a long screen porch with aluminum around the bottom, about 1 inch.. when it really rains I end up with a lot of standing water in one corner.. I am thinking of drilling 2 holes, one on each side of corner to drain.. any one know a better way?? thanks What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. thanks, it is a ground floor, poolside porch, with tile floor, and alumiun around as frame... and after the last few days of heavy rain, it was as deep as the bottom soport, about an inch, and an area 4 squair tiles... I know water will get in, but it cant be good to have standing water for days on grout and stuff....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'd be even more concerned about drilling through the tile, exposing the adhesive and subfloor to moisture. It might be possible to drill a hole large enough for a drain of some type, complete with pipe, so that the water never hits the subfloor. You'd need to seal around the top of the drain so the water only went into it, not under it, but it would be doable.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I guess I was not clear, I am thinking of drilling 2 holes in the aluminum bottom support rail, on both sides of the corner post.. not in the tile, that should give the water a lower place to drain to.. |
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On 5 Oct, 14:38, "
wrote: On Oct 5, 2:33 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On 5 Oct, 14:23, " wrote: On Oct 5, 1:58 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On 5 Oct, 13:45, " wrote: hi, bought a new house here in FL, I have a long screen porch with aluminum around the bottom, about 1 inch.. when it really rains I end up with a lot of standing water in one corner.. I am thinking of drilling 2 holes, one on each side of corner to drain.. any one know a better way?? thanks What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. thanks, it is a ground floor, poolside porch, with tile floor, and alumiun around as frame... and after the last few days of heavy rain, it was as deep as the bottom soport, about an inch, and an area 4 squair tiles... I know water will get in, but it cant be good to have standing water for days on grout and stuff....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'd be even more concerned about drilling through the tile, exposing the adhesive and subfloor to moisture. It might be possible to drill a hole large enough for a drain of some type, complete with pipe, so that the water never hits the subfloor. You'd need to seal around the top of the drain so the water only went into it, not under it, but it would be doable.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I guess I was not clear, I am thinking of drilling 2 holes in the aluminum bottom support rail, on both sides of the corner post.. not in the tile, that should give the water a lower place to drain to..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can't see it from here, so I can't comment on your proposed solution. Perhaps a picture or 2 might help. |
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:38:05 -0700, "
wrote: I guess I was not clear, I am thinking of drilling 2 holes in the aluminum bottom support rail, on both sides of the corner post.. not in the tile, that should give the water a lower place to drain to.. What I hear you say is that the tile went in after the enclosure. The frame rest/fastened on the concrete pad. You need two weep holes at the low end; to drain water. You can drill two holes, imo. -- Oren "I didn’t say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you." |
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On Oct 5, 5:34 pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:38:05 -0700, " wrote: I guess I was not clear, I am thinking of drilling 2 holes in the aluminum bottom support rail, on both sides of the corner post.. not in the tile, that should give the water a lower place to drain to.. What I hear you say is that the tile went in after the enclosure. The frame rest/fastened on the concrete pad. You need two weep holes at the low end; to drain water. You can drill two holes, imo. -- Oren "I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you." dont know what weep holes are, but there are no holes in it plugged, i am thinking of doing what oren sez.. |
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:41:52 -0700, "
wrote: On Oct 5, 5:34 pm, Oren wrote: On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:38:05 -0700, " wrote: I guess I was not clear, I am thinking of drilling 2 holes in the aluminum bottom support rail, on both sides of the corner post.. not in the tile, that should give the water a lower place to drain to.. What I hear you say is that the tile went in after the enclosure. The frame rest/fastened on the concrete pad. You need two weep holes at the low end; to drain water. You can drill two holes, imo. dont know what weep holes are, but there are no holes in it plugged, i am thinking of doing what oren sez.. A weep hole; like a drain, similar to tear duct sp in the eye. Drill from the inside, just at or above tile level - towards the outside at a 45* down angle. I "sez" what I sez and I'll sez it again. -- Oren "My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes." |
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replying to DerbyDad03, MARVIN Huber wrote:
teamarrows wrote: On 5 Oct, 13:45, " What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. Screen houses in florida have screen roofs, sides...it's all screen and normally on a concrete slab. In theory, all one can do is drill weep holes either through the very bottom edge of the aluminum or the concrete next to it. I tried drilling through the concrete....flowers grew up through them. Best to bend the bottom edge of aluminum up a tad or drill holes through the aluminum. |
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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 12:44:04 PM UTC-5, MARVIN Huber wrote:
replying to DerbyDad03, MARVIN Huber wrote: teamarrows wrote: On 5 Oct, 13:45, " What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. Screen houses in florida have screen roofs, sides...it's all screen and normally on a concrete slab. In theory, all one can do is drill weep holes either through the very bottom edge of the aluminum or the concrete next to it. I tried drilling through the concrete....flowers grew up through them. Best to bend the bottom edge of aluminum up a tad or drill holes through the aluminum. . -- The guy lost his house 4 years ago when a lightning strike set the house on fire and it burned down. Florida has a lot of lightning and back in 2011 there was a lot of lightning activity. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Flash Monster |
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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:19:44 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 12:44:04 PM UTC-5, MARVIN Huber wrote: Screen houses in florida have screen roofs, sides...it's all screen and normally on a concrete slab. In theory, all one can do is drill weep holes either through the very bottom edge of the aluminum or the concrete next to it. I tried drilling through the concrete....flowers grew up through them. Best to bend the bottom edge of aluminum up a tad or drill holes through the aluminum. The guy lost his house 4 years ago when a lightning strike set the house on fire and it burned down. Florida has a lot of lightning and back in 2011 there was a lot of lightning activity. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Flash Monster Don't you love it when someone jumps into an 8 year old post and starts giving advice for solving a dead old problem? I'm sure ol' Jack has been scouring this group ever since hoping someone like Marvin comes along with a solution. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:44:01 +0000, MARVIN Huber
wrote: replying to DerbyDad03, MARVIN Huber wrote: teamarrows wrote: On 5 Oct, 1345, " I didn't know anyone had Usenet in 1345. Was this in the new world or England? I presume southern England, since it says bellsouth. Now that's a station on the Liverpool line, but I don't think they had trains then. What is the floor of the porch made of? If it's non treated wood, here's my concern: Most porches are made of stone. I don't know how you will drill through one. Best to have your serfs build you another one. If you drill a hole, you'll be exposing the unfinished interior of the wood to the moisture as it drains through. You might end up with rot fairly soon. What's a lot of standing water? Is the amount of water going to be a problem under the porch? Mr. Obvious says: The optimum solution would be to prevent the water from entering the porch in the first place. Screen houses in florida have screen roofs, sides...it's all screen and normally on a concrete slab. In theory, all one can do is drill weep holes either through the very bottom edge of the aluminum or the concrete next to it. I tried drilling through the concrete....flowers grew up through them. Best to bend the bottom edge of aluminum up a tad or drill holes through the aluminum. . |
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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:47:38 PM UTC-5, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:19:44 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote: On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 12:44:04 PM UTC-5, MARVIN Huber wrote: Screen houses in florida have screen roofs, sides...it's all screen and normally on a concrete slab. In theory, all one can do is drill weep holes either through the very bottom edge of the aluminum or the concrete next to it. I tried drilling through the concrete....flowers grew up through them. Best to bend the bottom edge of aluminum up a tad or drill holes through the aluminum. The guy lost his house 4 years ago when a lightning strike set the house on fire and it burned down. Florida has a lot of lightning and back in 2011 there was a lot of lightning activity. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Flash Monster Don't you love it when someone jumps into an 8 year old post and starts giving advice for solving a dead old problem? I'm sure ol' Jack has been scouring this group ever since hoping someone like Marvin comes along with a solution. Oh come on, I'm never mean to them because I've also posted an answer to an old post without first checking the date of the original post. Me and a few other folks will tease each other and anyone who isn't paying attention to the dates. I'm away from home and my big Windows machines with real newsreader software at this time and I'm stuck using Chromie, my cute little Chromebook and the only way I can access Usenet is via Google Groups. For some reason or other, very old posts show up in Google Groups and are responded to by us hapless Chrome users and Google Groupies. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Google Monster |
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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 3:24:38 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:47:38 PM UTC-5, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: Don't you love it when someone jumps into an 8 year old post and starts giving advice for solving a dead old problem? I'm sure ol' Jack has been scouring this group ever since hoping someone like Marvin comes along with a solution. Oh come on, I'm never mean to them because I've also posted an answer to an old post without first checking the date of the original post. Me and a few other folks will tease each other and anyone who isn't paying attention to the dates. I'm away from home and my big Windows machines with real newsreader software at this time and I'm stuck using Chromie, my cute little Chromebook and the only way I can access Usenet is via Google Groups. For some reason or other, very old posts show up in Google Groups and are responded to by us hapless Chrome users and Google Groupies. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Google Monster I wasn't mean, just these out of the blue posters show up to answer a years old post and never to be seen again. Chrome or any device accessing these groups through Google will show the original post with original date and all the subsequent posts. |
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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 3:37:04 PM UTC-5, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 3:24:38 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote: On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:47:38 PM UTC-5, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: Don't you love it when someone jumps into an 8 year old post and starts giving advice for solving a dead old problem? I'm sure ol' Jack has been scouring this group ever since hoping someone like Marvin comes along with a solution. Oh come on, I'm never mean to them because I've also posted an answer to an old post without first checking the date of the original post. Me and a few other folks will tease each other and anyone who isn't paying attention to the dates. I'm away from home and my big Windows machines with real newsreader software at this time and I'm stuck using Chromie, my cute little Chromebook and the only way I can access Usenet is via Google Groups. For some reason or other, very old posts show up in Google Groups and are responded to by us hapless Chrome users and Google Groupies. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Google Monster I wasn't mean, just these out of the blue posters show up to answer a years old post and never to be seen again. Chrome or any device accessing these groups through Google will show the original post with original date and all the subsequent posts. I know and that's the problem, I can't filter or block anything. Most people tell me that I have no filter. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Unhinged Monster |
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replying to jackfaulds, BBear wrote:
http://www.poolcageplus.com/lanaidrain.html check the video out here, cutting holes like these others suggest will allow bugs in! -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...er-255539-.htm |
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replying to jackfaulds, Neal Hilliard wrote:
Yes, you can drill through the aluminum to drain the water. It's aluminum it want rust or hurt it on the inside. Only drawback is bugs and reptiles now have a path into your lanai. If you take a piece of screen and get some good water resistant adhesive and cut a piece an inch larger than your hole on the 3 sides and stick it on. Either way coversed or not the holes get clogged screened or not and will need to be cleaned out with a water hose every so often. But with the screen at leadt no bugs, snakes, or lizards can get in. I'd drill at least a 1/2" hole as low as you can get it then take a chisel and split the lower piece if one remains. Take a punch aND tap the 2 pieces inward on the inside and on the out side use the chisel to cut them off and file the edges if your worried about sharp edges. I would screen both holes if it where me. Hope this helps. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...er-255539-.htm |
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