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Aaron Fude October 4th 07 05:36 PM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
Hi,

I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.

For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.

But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?

Many thanks in advance!

Aaron Fude


Joe October 4th 07 06:25 PM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
On Oct 4, 11:36 am, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.

For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.

But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?

Many thanks in advance!

Aaron Fude


Have your plumber upgrade the primary supply lines to 3/4". Should be
in the ballpark of $1k for an average house. HTH

Joe


George October 4th 07 07:19 PM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.

For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.

But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?

Many thanks in advance!

Aaron Fude

If you want to waste that much water and the energy to heat it you will
need larger piping.

[email protected] October 4th 07 08:33 PM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
On Oct 4, 2:19?pm, George wrote:
Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,


I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.


For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.


But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?


Many thanks in advance!


Aaron Fude


If you want to waste that much water and the energy to heat it you will
need larger piping.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


our hhome has half inch indoors but 3/4 underground main. showering
was always a problem, if someone ran cold water scald would
result......

couldnt get good parts anymore for our 3 valve tub shower fixture.

replaced with delta pressure balance single handle, well actually it
has a double handle one for adjust flow other temperature.

its amazing and works awesome worth all the $ and work wish I had done
it years ago!


jim October 5th 07 02:53 AM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
On Oct 4, 2:33 pm, " wrote:
On Oct 4, 2:19?pm, George wrote:





Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,


I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.


For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.


But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?


Many thanks in advance!


Aaron Fude


If you want to waste that much water and the energy to heat it you will
need larger piping.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


our hhome has half inch indoors but 3/4 underground main. showering
was always a problem, if someone ran cold water scald would
result......

couldnt get good parts anymore for our 3 valve tub shower fixture.

replaced with delta pressure balance single handle, well actually it
has a double handle one for adjust flow other temperature.

its amazing and works awesome worth all the $ and work wish I had done
it years ago!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


First check and see what you have at the meter if it is 1/2 then you
only cut the pressure by converting to 3/4 most out sides on meters
are 1/2 pipe thread going out . As someone else said why do you need
this as you will only use your hot water faster and cost more to
operate and all heads will still only deliver 9.5 litres a minute max.
This can be done but the systems by Meon and Delta are pricey so do
some investigation first. 2 shower heads and 2 jets max probaly


Steve Barker LT[_2_] October 5th 07 03:52 AM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
wrong, wrong, and wrong.

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"jim" wrote in message
oups.com...
First check and see what you have at the meter if it is 1/2 then you
only cut the pressure by converting to 3/4 most out sides on meters
are 1/2 pipe thread going out . As someone else said why do you need
this as you will only use your hot water faster and cost more to
operate and all heads will still only deliver 9.5 litres a minute max.
This can be done but the systems by Meon and Delta are pricey so do
some investigation first. 2 shower heads and 2 jets max probaly




BobK207 October 5th 07 04:53 AM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
On Oct 4, 6:53 pm, jim wrote:
On Oct 4, 2:33 pm, " wrote:



On Oct 4, 2:19?pm, George wrote:


Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,


I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.


For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.


But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?


Many thanks in advance!


Aaron Fude


If you want to waste that much water and the energy to heat it you will
need larger piping.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


our hhome has half inch indoors but 3/4 underground main. showering
was always a problem, if someone ran cold water scald would
result......


couldnt get good parts anymore for our 3 valve tub shower fixture.


replaced with delta pressure balance single handle, well actually it
has a double handle one for adjust flow other temperature.


its amazing and works awesome worth all the $ and work wish I had done
it years ago!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


First check and see what you have at the meter if it is 1/2 then you
only cut the pressure by converting to 3/4 most out sides on meters
are 1/2 pipe thread going out . As someone else said why do you need
this as you will only use your hot water faster and cost more to
operate and all heads will still only deliver 9.5 litres a minute max.
This can be done but the systems by Meon and Delta are pricey so do
some investigation first. 2 shower heads and 2 jets max probaly


First check and see what you have at the meter if it is 1/2 then you

only cut the pressure by converting to 3/4 most out sides on meters
are 1/2 pipe thread going out .

As per Steve's comment.....putting 3/4" copper (or even 1" copper) on
a 1/2" meter will NOT cut the pressure delivered to house.

A water system's supply performance is governed by the static system
at the meter and the total pressure loss from supply to point of use,
imposed by the combination of the meter, supply line to house & the
supply line to the various fixture and the instantaneous water demand.

I just re-piped with a PEX home run (manifold system). I've got a
3/4" meter supplying a 1" copper line (~40 ft to the house, another 25
ft to the manifolds). My static supply pressure is regulated down to
65 psi at the house (from about 72 psi at the meter).

I can run the outside sprinklers, the washer & the dishwasher...all
coming on & off while showering. Yeah, I notice slight pressure
changes but no scalding, even with the toilet that shares the shower
cold water supply being flushed. A bigger supply line from the meter
to the house will preserve more of the supply pressure (ie less
pressure drop from meter to house).

OP-

Your house having 1/2" copper tubing is a good start...what size is
your meter, the supply line (length, mat'l & size) to the house, the
static water pressure and the house piping layout (length, size &
shared demands)

Whether or not you can run two shower heads will depend on their water
demand & the factors above.

1/2" copper lines can provide pretty decent flow, given good supply
pressure and a 3/4" or 1" main line.

cheers
Bob



George October 5th 07 01:20 PM

1/2" pipes - what does that give you
 
wrote:
On Oct 4, 2:19?pm, George wrote:
Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,
I'm remodeling my bathroom. My house has 1/2" copper pipes and I'm
wondering what I can do with that.
I know that the answer is most certainly "depends" and most cases but
I'm looking for ball park estimates.
For example, I know that I won't be able to run two showerheads with a
rainfall shower head and 8 jets.
But will I be able to run two concurrent showers (i.e two
showerheads)? What about a showerhead and 5 jets?
Many thanks in advance!
Aaron Fude

If you want to waste that much water and the energy to heat it you will
need larger piping.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


our hhome has half inch indoors but 3/4 underground main. showering
was always a problem, if someone ran cold water scald would
result......

couldnt get good parts anymore for our 3 valve tub shower fixture.

replaced with delta pressure balance single handle, well actually it
has a double handle one for adjust flow other temperature.

its amazing and works awesome worth all the $ and work wish I had done
it years ago!

But he is talking about a 5~7 gallon/minute water and energy to heat it
extravaganza.

I know someone who had one of those put in their house and they had to
have a large size commercial high input water heater installed to keep
up with the high volume waste.


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