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Dual sump pumps
I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when
it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty |
Dual sump pumps
On Oct 2, 2:33 pm, "Smarty" wrote:
I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty If you have city water look at www.basepump.com |
Dual sump pumps
I am actually quite familiar with these units, since they are not only
manufactured a few miles away from me in Western New York but have received a lot of local publicity after the "surprise" ice storm hit a year ago in October which took out electricity for up to 3 weeks here. I am not really looking to a water driven pump approach, but rather want to have a second electric pump operate as my earlier post indicated. It is my impression that the water-driven pumps handle quite a bit less volume per hour, and also rely on good discharge clearance / drainage for both the basement water as well as the additional water they use for pumping. My water pressure is also on the low side, forcing me to use one of their smaller capacity units. I'm just trying to find the best way of attaching and mounting 2 electric pumps from both a plumbing and electrical viewpoint. Smarty "ransley" wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 2, 2:33 pm, "Smarty" wrote: I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty If you have city water look at www.basepump.com |
Dual sump pumps
If your pumps are essential, as having a backup generator would indicate,
you should invest in a pump alternator. These things usually can be wired to separate circuits for each pump, and set to fire pump 1, then pump 2, back and forth, and if the water level rises while either pump is in operation, they kick in the second pump "Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty |
Dual sump pumps
If you have room in your sump for both pumps, put them in side by side,
otherwise it will be impossible to remove a lower bad one without shutting down the one above it. Do not wire them both into the same circuit. Keep two circuits in case one pump quits and blows the breaker on its line. Pipe both sumps into separate discharge lines. Don't connect them together except at a point where they both discharge into a drain line that is much larger than the pipes from the pump. 4" or 6" would make a good drainage line to take both pumps. The alternator switching method sounds good. "Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty |
Dual sump pumps
On Oct 2, 5:33?pm, "EXT" wrote:
If you have room in your sump for both pumps, put them in side by side, otherwise it will be impossible to remove a lower bad one without shutting down the one above it. Do not wire them both into the same circuit. Keep two circuits in case one pump quits and blows the breaker on its line. Pipe both sumps into separate discharge lines. Don't connect them together except at a point where they both discharge into a drain line that is much larger than the pipes from the pump. 4" or 6" would make a good drainage line to take both pumps. The alternator switching method sounds good. "Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - just install a second pit, easy to do and have 2 completely seperate pits with two completely seperate pumps draining into 2 completely seperate discharge lines. all redundant all the time:) add a batery back up pump to one just in case. A couple thoughts, it amazes me how many people have sump pumps that could drain to daylight! at least in a overflow pump failure mode. if you could, get a backhoe to dio some digging gravity is really reliable. another thing you should investigate why so much water in a heavy rain? leaking downspout drain broken pipes? clogged gutters filled with debris? could you add a french drain somewhere to minimize flow somehow? sump pumps work awesome, at least till they fail but you need to look at this as a entire groundwater control system. the less water traveling thru your sump the better! |
Dual sump pumps
I never cease to be amazed at how many really excellent ideas and helpful
people visit this forum. The suggestions are tremendous, and things I would have never considered. Thanks to all for the much appreciated advice! Smarty wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 2, 5:33?pm, "EXT" wrote: If you have room in your sump for both pumps, put them in side by side, otherwise it will be impossible to remove a lower bad one without shutting down the one above it. Do not wire them both into the same circuit. Keep two circuits in case one pump quits and blows the breaker on its line. Pipe both sumps into separate discharge lines. Don't connect them together except at a point where they both discharge into a drain line that is much larger than the pipes from the pump. 4" or 6" would make a good drainage line to take both pumps. The alternator switching method sounds good. "Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - just install a second pit, easy to do and have 2 completely seperate pits with two completely seperate pumps draining into 2 completely seperate discharge lines. all redundant all the time:) add a batery back up pump to one just in case. A couple thoughts, it amazes me how many people have sump pumps that could drain to daylight! at least in a overflow pump failure mode. if you could, get a backhoe to dio some digging gravity is really reliable. another thing you should investigate why so much water in a heavy rain? leaking downspout drain broken pipes? clogged gutters filled with debris? could you add a french drain somewhere to minimize flow somehow? sump pumps work awesome, at least till they fail but you need to look at this as a entire groundwater control system. the less water traveling thru your sump the better! |
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Your first option will work fine. Just make sure you have check valves on
each pump. s "Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty |
Dual sump pumps
"ransley" wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 2, 2:33 pm, "Smarty" wrote: I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty If you have city water look at www.basepump.com Brilliant advice; they are sure to handle thousand of gallons per hour without any trouble! |
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"Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. I had a similar problem, and my solution was to move. Well actually that was my second solution; the first was to install a second sump. I put a pump in the second sump with a water powered backup, and then put a battery powered backup on the original sump. Amazingly, I didn't have any problem selling the house for a good price, despite all the sump pumps. |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:58:17 -0700, "
wrote: just install a second pit, easy to do and have 2 completely seperate pits with two completely seperate pumps draining into 2 completely seperate discharge lines. But what about the feed lines to the sump? The perforated plastic pipe that surrounds the foundation? How do you get that water into the other sump? And without removing it from the first sump? all redundant all the time:) add a batery back up pump to one just in case. A couple thoughts, it amazes me how many people have sump pumps that could drain to daylight! at least in a overflow pump failure mode. if you could, get a backhoe to dio some digging gravity is really reliable. another thing you should investigate why so much water in a heavy rain? leaking downspout drain broken pipes? clogged gutters filled with debris? could you add a french drain somewhere to minimize flow somehow? sump pumps work awesome, at least till they fail but you need to look at this as a entire groundwater control system. the less water traveling thru your sump the better! |
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On Oct 3, 3:07?am, mm wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:58:17 -0700, " wrote: just install a second pit, easy to do and have 2 completely seperate pits with two completely seperate pumps draining into 2 completely seperate discharge lines. But what about the feed lines to the sump? The perforated plastic pipe that surrounds the foundation? How do you get that water into the other sump? And without removing it from the first sump? all redundant all the time:) add a batery back up pump to one just in case. A couple thoughts, it amazes me how many people have sump pumps that could drain to daylight! at least in a overflow pump failure mode. if you could, get a backhoe to dio some digging gravity is really reliable. another thing you should investigate why so much water in a heavy rain? leaking downspout drain broken pipes? clogged gutters filled with debris? could you add a french drain somewhere to minimize flow somehow? sump pumps work awesome, at least till they fail but you need to look at this as a entire groundwater control system. the less water traveling thru your sump the better!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - generally the perforated pipe runs around the perimeter walls. so pick a convenient spot cut concrete and break into existing line install second sump and pump, its not high tech just hard work. digging into concrete etc........ |
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:25:36 GMT, "Toller" wrote:
"Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. I had a similar problem, and my solution was to move. Well actually that was my second solution; the first was to install a second sump. I put a pump in the second sump with a water powered backup, and then put a battery powered backup on the original sump. Amazingly, I didn't have any problem selling the house for a good price, despite all the sump pumps. It sounds like you had four! sump pumps. Wow. Otoh, maybe he thought, Good, he has 4 sump pumps. That ought to be enough for anything. Or maybe he didn't think at all. |
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Simpler, install the sump beside the old one and add a connecting pipe to
collect the overflow. wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 3, 3:07?am, mm wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:58:17 -0700, " wrote: just install a second pit, easy to do and have 2 completely seperate pits with two completely seperate pumps draining into 2 completely seperate discharge lines. But what about the feed lines to the sump? The perforated plastic pipe that surrounds the foundation? How do you get that water into the other sump? And without removing it from the first sump? all redundant all the time:) add a batery back up pump to one just in case. A couple thoughts, it amazes me how many people have sump pumps that could drain to daylight! at least in a overflow pump failure mode. if you could, get a backhoe to dio some digging gravity is really reliable. another thing you should investigate why so much water in a heavy rain? leaking downspout drain broken pipes? clogged gutters filled with debris? could you add a french drain somewhere to minimize flow somehow? sump pumps work awesome, at least till they fail but you need to look at this as a entire groundwater control system. the less water traveling thru your sump the better!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - generally the perforated pipe runs around the perimeter walls. so pick a convenient spot cut concrete and break into existing line install second sump and pump, its not high tech just hard work. digging into concrete etc........ |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 2, 5:33?pm, "EXT" wrote: If you have room in your sump for both pumps, put them in side by side, otherwise it will be impossible to remove a lower bad one without shutting down the one above it. Do not wire them both into the same circuit. Keep two circuits in case one pump quits and blows the breaker on its line. Pipe both sumps into separate discharge lines. Don't connect them together except at a point where they both discharge into a drain line that is much larger than the pipes from the pump. 4" or 6" would make a good drainage line to take both pumps. The alternator switching method sounds good. "Smarty" wrote in message news:32xMi.1271$R%1.1117@trndny06... I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - just install a second pit, easy to do and have 2 completely seperate pits with two completely seperate pumps draining into 2 completely seperate discharge lines. all redundant all the time:) add a batery back up pump to one just in case. A couple thoughts, it amazes me how many people have sump pumps that could drain to daylight! at least in a overflow pump failure mode. if you could, get a backhoe to dio some digging gravity is really reliable. another thing you should investigate why so much water in a heavy rain? leaking downspout drain broken pipes? clogged gutters filled with debris? could you add a french drain somewhere to minimize flow somehow? sump pumps work awesome, at least till they fail but you need to look at this as a entire groundwater control system. the less water traveling thru your sump the better! you might try putting in some good sized french drains if you can get access to the source of the water. that would be my preferred fix |
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replying to Smarty, Arnold2303 wrote:
nobody wrote: I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty SMARTY, did you ever install your dual sumps? How did it work out. I am in your situation... I have a natural gas backup generator. I want to get a backup sump fore same reasons you have/had. -- -- -- |
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Two pumps, separate supply electricity if possible. check valves in each discharge into a comon pipe. Just set the float switch on the backup pump to go on at a higher water level. This isn't rocket science, just basic plumbing and electricity.
I have two pumps like this, plus a water-powered jet-like system as a final backup if the electricity and the back-up electricity both fail. Each comes on at a successively higher water level. |
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On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 19:44:01 +0000, Arnold2303
wrote: replying to Smarty, Arnold2303 wrote: nobody wrote: I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill. The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to pump water under most conditions. The concern I have is if the pump fails. I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be working when I really need them. The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools, furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance. Smarty SMARTY, did you ever install your dual sumps? How did it work out. I am in your situation... I have a natural gas backup generator. I want to get a backup sump fore same reasons you have/had. I would definitely have separate discharge pipes installed, and run the 2 pumps on sparate circuits. I would set the float switch on one pump a bit higher than the other. I would LIKELY use 2 different sized pumps - the low level pump being slightly lower capacity than the high level pump. For most of the year your, say, 1/3 HP pump can handle the flow with no problem - and runs on lower current, with fewer cycles. If the little guy cannot do the job, big brother ( 1/2hp or more) kicks in - and if the little guy fails, big brother is up to the job, regardless. You NEED separate circuits so if the one pump fails and draws excessive current, tripping the breaker, the second pump is not impacted. You need separate discharges so if one gets blocked, making the one pump in-effective, the second pump still has a chance. Tying both pumps to one discharge means if the discharge gets plugged the one pump just pumps the water back through the other pump - right back to the sump where it started. -- -- |
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 13:28:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: Two pumps, separate supply electricity if possible. check valves in each discharge into a comon pipe. Just set the float switch on the backup pump to go on at a higher water level. This isn't rocket science, just basic plumbing and electricity. I have two pumps like this, plus a water-powered jet-like system as a final backup Is this one a BasePump, or is there another brand of waterpowered sumppump? Thanks. if the electricity and the back-up electricity both fail. Each comes on at a successively higher water level. |
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 13:28:41 -0800 (PST), " wrote: Two pumps, separate supply electricity if possible. check valves in each discharge into a comon pipe. Just set the float switch on the backup pump to go on at a higher water level. This isn't rocket science, just basic plumbing and electricity. I have two pumps like this, plus a water-powered jet-like system as a final backup Is this one a BasePump, or is there another brand of waterpowered sumppump? Micky, My pump is a "Liberty Pumps - Sump Jet, Model S310". It seems to be pretty capable in terms of water lifting. I have not had to actually use it in an emergency, just tested it a number of times by turning off the electricity to my two 120V powered pumps. |
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replying to clare , Arnold2303 wrote:
clare wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 09:35:30 -0500, Art Todesco As a matter of principal I will never buy a house that depends on a sump pump to keep the basement dry. The house I grew up in was at the low point of the street (the street was about 8 inches lower than the next catch basin in front of our house), and the main floor was about a foot or so lower than the street, with the lot sloping back to a bank (drop-off) to the riover flats. In a heavy rain, the street would fill with water, and trucks going by (or even cars) would cause a wake that splashed water over to the house. The water would run in the front door, across the linoleum living room floor, down the basement stairs, and out the cellar drain to the river flats. Dad pured a retaining wall along the front of the house, against the foundation and extending up a foot or so above foundation level, and poured a concrete front poach about 8 inches higher than the living room floor, so you had to step down going in - with a raised threshold lip. A brick "railing" around the porch acted as a breakwater, and we had a drop-in "floodgate" that blocked the entrance in rainy weather. Those modifications kept the water out of the house on all but the very worst rainstorms. Dad bought that house for $2000 in 1957. It was built before confederation (I think it was 87 years old when he bought it). He sold it in 1975 and it was demolished and replaced by several townhouses just last year. Both my first house and this one are at the high point of the street, in sand, on an open gravel bottom with no sump. Thank you for your post. If you know any builders in suburbs bordering major cities, building departments are mandating that NEWLY BUILT homes have their storm water drain onto their property vs going into storm sewers. Many municipalities don't want any more water running into storm sewers; they feel sewers are already maxed out, resulting in storm water co-mingling with waste water. The mandate for builders: Grade the lawn so that water runs across it and eventually (hopefully) seeps down in --- never reaching a storm sewer. -- |
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To Arnold,
I did my own installations of all 3 pumps. I was replacing a single pump that the builder put into the house when he built it in 1957. We bought the house in 1965 and I put the second pump in a few years later. The third water-powered pump I put in about 5 years ago so that I didn't have to worrry about power failures when we were out of town on vacations, since I didn't want to have my neighbors worrying about my flooded basement when they would be having problems themselves. I figured it was cheap insurance. If our local water pressure ever goes down, we are in much bigger trouble than just my basaement flooding. |
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