Framing a wall
 

I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Framing a wall
 

On Sep 15, 7:44 pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Well there are many ways to skin this cat. If your walls are an
unusual thickness, then you will have to fir them out to match
existing. I don't think many people would monkey with using 3/4
firring on the bottom plate to flush with the sheetrock any more. It
would make base trim a bit easier, but wood is pretty expensive.
Standard procedure is to hang the top sheet first to get as tight a
fit as possible to the ceiling. If your base is tall enough to cover
on the bottom, you could fill the bottom three inches with sheetrock
or whatever and not even bother taping the bottom joint. Your base
would have to be tall enough to cover the factory tapered seam--it
would probably have to be about 5". You could also leave the 3" gap
between the sheets, and fill this with 3/8 rock--this would be easy to
tape as the factory tapered seams would butt into the 3/8 rock and the
whole works gets taped and filled. Yet another approach is to buy
some 54" rock---so you would use a 4 foot sheet and a 51" sheet.

Framing a wall
 

MiamiCuse wrote:
I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Sounds like someone used 8' 2x4s instead of studs and then
used the nailers to fill in at the bottom. Just leave off the
bottom nailer and use blocks to hold the base out at the
bottom, or use strips of sheetrock as filler strips.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Framing a wall
 

On Sep 15, 10:32 pm, Robert Allison wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote:
I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Sounds like someone used 8' 2x4s instead of studs and then
used the nailers to fill in at the bottom. Just leave off the
bottom nailer and use blocks to hold the base out at the
bottom, or use strips of sheetrock as filler strips.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Yeah robert, but if his base is only 3" tall, the top edge will fall
right on the factory tapered seam--he'll have to crawl around on his
hands and knees and mud that sucker then.

Framing a wall
 

marson wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:32 pm, Robert Allison wrote:

MiamiCuse wrote:

I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Sounds like someone used 8' 2x4s instead of studs and then
used the nailers to fill in at the bottom. Just leave off the
bottom nailer and use blocks to hold the base out at the
bottom, or use strips of sheetrock as filler strips.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX


Yeah robert, but if his base is only 3" tall, the top edge will fall
right on the factory tapered seam--he'll have to crawl around on his
hands and knees and mud that sucker then.


True, but you are going to have to really look hard to find a
base that is only 3". When you reach that size base it is
almost always 3-1/2" or 3-5/8". That shouldn't be a problem.
If he has some base that is problematic, then what I would
do is run a sheet of drywall to the ceiling, run a sheet to
1/2" off the floor and fill in the gap between the two sheets.
That way, there is just one joint to mud in the middle.


--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Framing a wall
 

Robert Allison wrote:
marson wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:32 pm, Robert Allison wrote:

MiamiCuse wrote:

I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate
and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend
existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but
today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips
(seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I
wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the
strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the
baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how
they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall
will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the
thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Sounds like someone used 8' 2x4s instead of studs and then
used the nailers to fill in at the bottom. Just leave off the
bottom nailer and use blocks to hold the base out at the
bottom, or use strips of sheetrock as filler strips.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX


Yeah robert, but if his base is only 3" tall, the top edge will fall
right on the factory tapered seam--he'll have to crawl around on his
hands and knees and mud that sucker then.


True, but you are going to have to really look hard to find a base that
is only 3". When you reach that size base it is almost always 3-1/2" or
3-5/8". That shouldn't be a problem. If he has some base that is
problematic, then what I would do is run a sheet of drywall to the
ceiling, run a sheet to 1/2" off the floor and fill in the gap between
the two sheets. That way, there is just one joint to mud in the middle.

Or, if this is matching an existing ceiling height and wants to use 1/2"
instead of 3/4 drywall, could easily just cut the nailer at the bottom
from 1/2" sheathing and have the best of both without needing any
shimming for matching thickness nor need an extra joint to tape in the
middle...

Whether the original was planned for the base nailer or simply a
homeowner patchup, it is handy for an intermediate base to not have to
hit the studs...

--

--

Framing a wall
 

3/4 drywall????

s


"dpb" wrote in message ...
Or, if this is matching an existing ceiling height and wants to use 1/2"
instead of 3/4 drywall, could ......-

--

Framing a wall
 

On Sep 16, 10:28 am, Robert Allison wrote:
marson wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:32 pm, Robert Allison wrote:

MiamiCuse wrote:

I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

Sounds like someone used 8' 2x4s instead of studs and then
used the nailers to fill in at the bottom. Just leave off the
bottom nailer and use blocks to hold the base out at the
bottom, or use strips of sheetrock as filler strips.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Yeah robert, but if his base is only 3" tall, the top edge will fall
right on the factory tapered seam--he'll have to crawl around on his
hands and knees and mud that sucker then.

True, but you are going to have to really look hard to find a
base that is only 3". When you reach that size base it is
almost always 3-1/2" or 3-5/8". That shouldn't be a problem.
If he has some base that is problematic, then what I would
do is run a sheet of drywall to the ceiling, run a sheet to
1/2" off the floor and fill in the gap between the two sheets.
That way, there is just one joint to mud in the middle.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Yes but with factory taper, his base will have to come up 5" (3" gap
plus 2" for the taper) or he will have to fill it with mud to make it
look like anything. I think your second idea is the way to go
anyway. He can do is fill strip standing up like a gentleman instead
of groveling on the floor.

Framing a wall
 

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:44:31 -0400, MiamiCuse wrote:

I have a question about framing an interior wall.

The way I have seen it done, you have the bottom plate and top plate and
studs in between, and the bottom plate to be PT since it's resting on
concrete slab. The drywall goes on top.

However, I recently demoed part of my house, and I had to extend existing
walls and build new walls. I did not notice it at the time, but today I
realized that the original construction had nailed furring strips (seems to
be 3/4" x 3") to the bottom plate on both sides. See the picture below:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010352.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/P1010354.jpg

and the drywall actually sit on top of it flushed. I also measured the
ceiling and it's 99" above the slab instead of standard 96", I wonder if
they raised the ceiling so as to accomodate 2 sheets of 4x8 and the strip at
the bottom.

Is there any advantage of doing it this way? I would think the baseboards
will attach better?

I was going to frame the new walls differently, but seeing now how they did
it I think I have no choice but to do the same, or else my drywall will not
touch the ceiling, and I have to buy drywall sheets that match the thickness
of that strip.

Always running into surprises.

MC

You mention a concrete slab. Perhaps the boards you found are merely
spacers to keep drywall above concrete so moisture doesn't get sucked up
into drywall. I have hung drywall in basements and leave a gap at the
bottom to do just this.