My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields

WalkingMan wrote:
My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and
on a concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?,
start from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the
drain cover? OR WHAT?????

Break up one and start scraping them up.

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on 9/7/2007 8:57 AM WalkingMan said the following:
My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields



If installed right, there should be a thin underlayment between the tile
and sub-floor to which the tile is cemented. The underlayment is nailed
to the sub-floor. If you can't see the underlayment when you remove the
door sill, you may have to break a few tiles off near the doorway. Once
you can get a pry car under the underlayment, you can pry it up in
larger pieces or if lucky, the whole underlayment (don't count on it!).
If, however, the tile is cemented to the sub-floor, then a lot of
scraping will be required. Be sure to use an underlayment with the new
floor.


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In Hamptonburgh, NY
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on 9/7/2007 11:32 AM willshak said the following:
on 9/7/2007 8:57 AM WalkingMan said the following:
My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields



If installed right, there should be a thin underlayment between the
tile and sub-floor to which the tile is cemented. The underlayment is
nailed to the sub-floor. If you can't see the underlayment when you
remove the door sill, you may have to break a few tiles off near the
doorway. Once you can get a pry car under the underlayment, you can
pry it up in larger pieces or if lucky, the whole underlayment (don't
count on it!).
If, however, the tile is cemented to the sub-floor, then a lot of
scraping will be required. Be sure to use an underlayment with the new
floor.

OK, I missed the part about the concrete floor. Maybe some of what I
said about an underlayment still applies. My 1/2 bathroom, laundry room,
and family room are on a concrete slab and has an underlayment for the
vinyl tile in the laundry and 1/2 bathroom, but the family room has a
floating floor directly on the concrete slab.


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Bill
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on 9/7/2007 8:57 AM WalkingMan said the following:
My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields



Anyone reading my two responses to this message earlier, please
disregard. It seems I'm only using half a mind this morning.
I canceled both, but they still may get through.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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willshak wrote in news:13e2srco26rjdc5
@news.supernews.com:

Anyone reading my two responses to this message earlier, please
disregard. It seems I'm only using half a mind this morning.
I canceled both, but they still may get through.

....and will remain on the Internet for all eternity.

on 9/7/2007 12:02 PM kpg* said the following:
willshak wrote in news:13e2srco26rjdc5
@news.supernews.com:


Anyone reading my two responses to this message earlier, please
disregard. It seems I'm only using half a mind this morning.
I canceled both, but they still may get through.


....and will remain on the Internet for all eternity.


Thankfully, I won't be around for all eternity. :-)

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In Hamptonburgh, NY
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"WalkingMan" wrote in message
ups.com...
My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields

electric chipping hammer drill. wear ear and eye protection.

regards,
charlie
http://glassartists.org/chaniarts

On Sep 7, 11:55?am, "charlie"
wrote:
"WalkingMan" wrote in message

ups.com...

My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR HELP. STILL WELCOME ANY OTHERS
MARSHEL
Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields

electric chipping hammer drill. wear ear and eye protection.

regards,
charliehttp://glassartists.org/chaniarts

Been there, done that and got the T-shirt. it was amazingly easy. I used a 2
lb hammer and some cold chisels. If it all comes off clean, no sweat. If you
find you ave dammaged some areas of the cement just fill in and do a skim
coat of thinset then the next day tile as you would normally tile.


"charlie" wrote in message
...

"WalkingMan" wrote in message
ups.com...
My son is replacing the ceramic tile in his shower. He has removed
and is replacing the wall tiles now, but problems with the floor of
the shower, they are original to the house about 20 years old and on a
concrete base.

Should he try to remove the grout and try to chip each one out?, start
from an edge? cover the old tiles and tile over raising the drain
cover? OR WHAT?????

Thanks much

Marshel OShields

electric chipping hammer drill. wear ear and eye protection.

regards,
charlie
http://glassartists.org/chaniarts