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Robert August 5th 07 09:16 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert


Reinhard[_2_] August 5th 07 09:28 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
Robert wrote in news:1186345007.745027.127100
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert



1 hp = 746 watts so you so need at least 1120 watts to run a 1.5 hp motor.
The actual wattage depends on how much power the pump draws when it starts
- starting draw can be 2 or 3 times running power, usually just 2 or 2.5
times. Also, a generator can usually supply more than the rated power for a
short time, enough time to get pump to speed. A 3000 watt generator should
be plenty and you could probably get away with 2500 watts.

Tony August 5th 07 09:32 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
8KW min.
"Robert" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert




RBM August 5th 07 09:49 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
The smallest generator you can get, that produces 240 volt is probably going
to be around 2500 watts, which would be fine


"Robert" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert




Tony August 5th 07 09:58 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
11/2 hp motor will drow 11.35 amps. x 220 = 2497 watts
at start up perhaps x 2.5=6242.5 watts

"Reinhard" wrote in message
...
Robert wrote in news:1186345007.745027.127100
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert



1 hp = 746 watts so you so need at least 1120 watts to run a 1.5 hp motor.
The actual wattage depends on how much power the pump draws when it starts
- starting draw can be 2 or 3 times running power, usually just 2 or 2.5
times. Also, a generator can usually supply more than the rated power for
a
short time, enough time to get pump to speed. A 3000 watt generator should
be plenty and you could probably get away with 2500 watts.




RBM August 5th 07 10:18 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
Scratch the above, I mistook 1.5 for 1/2 HP. You'll be drawing around 12
amps @240, and factoring in starting current, you'll need around 6KW, which
will have a higher peak



"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
...
The smallest generator you can get, that produces 240 volt is probably
going to be around 2500 watts, which would be fine


"Robert" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert






HeyBub August 5th 07 11:16 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
Robert wrote:
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert


A holding tank would be cheaper.



Toller August 6th 07 12:24 AM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 

"Robert" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert

Such interesting answers!
You need to actually measure the current as the motor starts.
Typically a 1.5hp motor will run on 8a, and start with 24a (6500w), but most
motors aren't typical; you have to actually measure yours.



Frank August 6th 07 01:11 AM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
Robert wrote:
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert

Why stop with well? I have a 7,350 starting watts, 5,500 running watts
generator that handles well, furnace, 2 freezers and refrigerator as
well as a few lights and TV. With bottled water to drink and stored
water to flush toilets, we've lasted up to 3 days without electricity,
but we lost food in freezer then and another time house got down in the
40's even when I was burning 2 fireplaces. Stove, water heater and AC
are out of the picture but we can live comfortably for days without them.
Frank

Robert August 6th 07 02:10 AM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
On Aug 5, 6:11 pm, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Robert wrote:
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert


Why stop with well? I have a 7,350 starting watts, 5,500 running watts
generator that handles well, furnace, 2 freezers and refrigerator as
well as a few lights and TV. With bottled water to drink and stored
water to flush toilets, we've lasted up to 3 days without electricity,
but we lost food in freezer then and another time house got down in the
40's even when I was burning 2 fireplaces. Stove, water heater and AC
are out of the picture but we can live comfortably for days without them.
Frank


Thanks everybody for replying. I can see now that I need a
significantly higher capacity generator than I bought today at 4000w
peak. I had a 25% off coupon at Checkers that was due to expire so I
thought a generator would be a good idea. Luckily, before I opened
the box, there was a warning stating that it would not start an air
compressor or circular saw. That's when I posted here.

I think I'll look into something like Frank has. Thanks again.


Toller August 6th 07 03:44 AM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 

"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote in message
...
Robert wrote:
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert

Why stop with well? I have a 7,350 starting watts, 5,500 running watts
generator that handles well, furnace, 2 freezers and refrigerator as well
as a few lights and TV.


Because it can be difficult to find gas during a power outage.
How many gallons a day does that burn?



Frank August 6th 07 01:25 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
On Aug 5, 10:44 pm, "Toller" wrote:
"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote in message

...

Robert wrote:
I am having a well drilled to 400' and will get a 220v 1.5 hp motor
for the pump. I would like to buy a back-up generator in case of
extended power outages. Can anybody tell me what watt generator I
would need? Thanks - Robert


Why stop with well? I have a 7,350 starting watts, 5,500 running watts
generator that handles well, furnace, 2 freezers and refrigerator as well
as a few lights and TV.


Because it can be difficult to find gas during a power outage.
How many gallons a day does that burn?


That depends where you live. What you say is true for hurricane
intensive regions but where I live it is localized with fallen trees.
If I had natural gas service, I would have got a generator that works
on gas or propane. My generator uses about 10 gallons of gasoline a
day if run continuously but in real life where I turn it off at night
when sleeping or when nobody is home, I use about 5 gallons/day.
Refrigerators and freezers can usually get by without power for half a
day. So with two 5 gallon cans of gas and a full tank in the
generator, I'm good for 3 days.
Not mentioned in thread is need to buy a decent generator. Honda's
are best and quietest but cost twice as much. El cheapo's like
Coleman may work but be difficult to get replacement parts. Then
there is need to install a transfer box in house electrical system.
Frank


Stormin Mormon August 6th 07 01:40 PM

Back up generator for deep well pump
 
Quoting Reinhard: "1 hp = 746 watts so you so need at least 1120
watts to run a 1.5 hp motor.
The actual wattage depends on how much power the pump draws when
it starts
- starting draw can be 2 or 3 times running power, usually just 2
or 2.5

1120 divided by 220 is about 4 1/2, so I'm not sure how you get
your eight amp number.

That's the best advice is to actually measure it. And then figure
one and a half, to be sure. As the motor ages, the current draw
may increase.


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You have to starve them.
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"Toller" wrote in message
...
:

:
: Such interesting answers!
: You need to actually measure the current as the motor starts.
: Typically a 1.5hp motor will run on 8a, and start with 24a
(6500w), but most
: motors aren't typical; you have to actually measure yours.
:
:




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