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Reed Hurtt August 5th 07 03:54 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line re-routed.

Situation is a 45 year old house with overhead line from pole at rear
corner of lot. The line angles across the yard at almost 45 deg angle to
corner of house. A tree has grown in the middle of the yard that we do
not want trim to the extent that would be called for because of the
line. Would rather move the line, possibly using the garage roof as
intermediate point. (Garage is free-standing in corner of back yard
opposite to the power pole.) Lot is 60 x 100, line is about 60' long now.

Any ideas what a typical local power co. in large metro area would
charge to do such a thing ??

Would rather not call the co., as they would probably be out cutting the
tree before I could hang up phone ;-(

TIA, Reed

Bob August 5th 07 04:27 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
Reed Hurtt wrote:
Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line re-routed.

Situation is a 45 year old house with overhead line from pole at rear
corner of lot. The line angles across the yard at almost 45 deg angle to
corner of house. A tree has grown in the middle of the yard that we do
not want trim to the extent that would be called for because of the
line. Would rather move the line, possibly using the garage roof as
intermediate point.


This would involve work that is not normally performed by the utility --
moving the service entrance on your dwelling(s). Start out by calling
an electrical contractor. You may need to relocated the service
entrance to the garage and have it branch out to the main house.

aemeijers August 5th 07 04:43 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 

"Reed Hurtt" wrote in message
ink.net...
Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line
re-routed.

Situation is a 45 year old house with overhead line from pole at rear
corner of lot. The line angles across the yard at almost 45 deg angle to
corner of house. A tree has grown in the middle of the yard that we do not
want trim to the extent that would be called for because of the line.
Would rather move the line, possibly using the garage roof as intermediate
point. (Garage is free-standing in corner of back yard opposite to the
power pole.) Lot is 60 x 100, line is about 60' long now.

Any ideas what a typical local power co. in large metro area would charge
to do such a thing ??

Would rather not call the co., as they would probably be out cutting the
tree before I could hang up phone ;-(

If you are gonna be throwing money at it anyway, I'd seriously look at
buried service. A pipe down the side of the pole, buried cable, and a pipe
up to the meter base. Never have any tree-trimming or local-drop related
problems ever again, and no problems carrying ladders around. If phone and
cable are fed from same pole, they can go in same trench, as long as the
minimum distance from the power feed is maintained. House looks a lot
cleaner, too, IMHO. Just route the trench around the drip line of the tree
you are worried about. Might not even be that expensive, if you have the
energy to dig the trench yourself, or can cheaply obtain the use of a ditch
witch somewhere.

My father insisted on this setup in 1966 on the family house he built in
central Indiana. Power company took some convincing, but went along with
him. Since then, on high-end houses, buried service has become the norm,
although in new subdivisions it is fed from pad-mounted cubes, not
pole-mounted pigs. Can't remember the last time I saw a new-work aerial
service go in, other than trailer or temporary poles. It costs more up
front, but lasts a lot longer with fewer service calls, so the per/year
lifecycle costs can actually be lower. Any competent electrical contractor
that does new construction can give you a pretty accurate estimate after a
5-minute walkthrough, and probably tell you have customer-friendly the local
utilities are about making said changes.

aem sends....



Puddin' Man August 5th 07 05:09 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:54:24 GMT, Reed Hurtt wrote:

Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line re-routed.

Situation is a 45 year old house with overhead line from pole at rear
corner of lot. The line angles across the yard at almost 45 deg angle to
corner of house. A tree has grown in the middle of the yard that we do
not want trim to the extent that would be called for because of the
line. Would rather move the line, possibly using the garage roof as
intermediate point. (Garage is free-standing in corner of back yard
opposite to the power pole.) Lot is 60 x 100, line is about 60' long now.


Assumptions:
a.) The overhead line eqpt. belongs to the local power co.
b.) What you'd like is for local power co. to
1.) Disconnect, discard old line.
2.) Run new line attaching to other corner your house and
routing from there (and attaching to your exterior wall)
to your old service entrance (pigtails, etc).

Any ideas what a typical local power co. in large metro area would
charge to do such a thing ??


I can well imagine lots of variability from 1 area to another. Most
of 'em don't much like such special jobs. If you're lucky enough
to have an elec. utility that is oriented to customer svc., perhaps
$250-300. But that's truly a seat-of-the-pants estimate.

Would rather not call the co., as they would probably be out cutting the
tree before I could hang up phone ;-(


Not around here. If tree is on private property, they let it alone.

Puddin'

"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
-Friedrich Schiller

RBM August 5th 07 01:00 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
As others have said, the solution to your situation depends upon lots of
variables, like who owns what. In my area the utility would have you do
what's necessary to protect "their" service drop from "your" tree branches.
I would think that the most sensible thing to do would be to relocate the
service underground. The cost of that can vary wildly as well. In my area,
there are two electric utilities. One allows direct burial cable to be
installed. For me to run 100 feet 4/0 direct burial cable from meter box on
house to riser on pole including trench, would probably cost about $2000.
The other utility requires a 4 inch HDPE conduit to be run, so the same job
would be another $500. In your area the utility company may do it themselves
and charge a per foot fee. I'd suggest calling either a local electrician or
the utility and ask some questions



"Reed Hurtt" wrote in message
ink.net...
Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line
re-routed.

Situation is a 45 year old house with overhead line from pole at rear
corner of lot. The line angles across the yard at almost 45 deg angle to
corner of house. A tree has grown in the middle of the yard that we do not
want trim to the extent that would be called for because of the line.
Would rather move the line, possibly using the garage roof as intermediate
point. (Garage is free-standing in corner of back yard opposite to the
power pole.) Lot is 60 x 100, line is about 60' long now.

Any ideas what a typical local power co. in large metro area would charge
to do such a thing ??

Would rather not call the co., as they would probably be out cutting the
tree before I could hang up phone ;-(

TIA, Reed




Joe August 5th 07 09:15 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
On Aug 5, 7:00 am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
As others have said, the solution to your situation depends upon lots of
variables, like who owns what. In my area the utility would have you do
what's necessary to protect "their" service drop from "your" tree branches.
I would think that the most sensible thing to do would be to relocate the
service underground. The cost of that can vary wildly as well. In my area,
there are two electric utilities. One allows direct burial cable to be
installed. For me to run 100 feet 4/0 direct burial cable from meter box on
house to riser on pole including trench, would probably cost about $2000.
The other utility requires a 4 inch HDPE conduit to be run, so the same job
would be another $500. In your area the utility company may do it themselves
and charge a per foot fee. I'd suggest calling either a local electrician or
the utility and ask some questions

"Reed Hurtt" wrote in message

ink.net...

Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line
re-routed.


snip


Just some stats that may be useful: we are readying a rehab project
for underground service now to avoid removing trees that have
surrounded the 'drop' . Our power company (AmerenIP) in cenral
Illinois requires a 3" PVC conduit for burial. The other requirement
is no more tha one 45 degree bend in the run. At the house and the
pole there must be a 90 dgree bend, galavnized only. These two are
pricey, $135 apiece at our distributor. The meter base is larger, an
offset Type 2 , IIRC. Same price as smaller ones, $43. Power company
supplies and pulls wire to meter base and hooks up to their
connections. If my electrical sub has his work in place by then, I've
got power in palace. The guy with the Ditch Witch owes me one so that
is free. So I'm out of pocket about $500 max for a 65 foot run. I
suspect that many places in the country will comparable, so $1000 or
less ought to cover most situations. Might be higher in the sovereign
country of California g.

Joe


jmagerl August 5th 07 09:59 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
When I upgraded to 200amp service, it cost $2000. THe upgrade involved
relocating the service entrance. I opted for burying the cable. $800 of the
price was because I did not want to trench near a major tree and had them
instead "thump" the wire thru. THey recommended 3 inch PVC drain pipe to put
the cable in but that was just because I was going under my driveway and
should I ever have to do it again they wouldnt have to rip the driveway up.

The first 100 ft of the burial was free (if they trenched). so basically my
burial was free (except for the thumping).

So the electrician prepared the new service entrance (2 guys 1 day $1200)
and Com Ed had their contractor do the trenching and cable laying ($800)

This was 6 yrs ago



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 5, 7:00 am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
As others have said, the solution to your situation depends upon lots of
variables, like who owns what. In my area the utility would have you do
what's necessary to protect "their" service drop from "your" tree
branches.
I would think that the most sensible thing to do would be to relocate the
service underground. The cost of that can vary wildly as well. In my
area,
there are two electric utilities. One allows direct burial cable to be
installed. For me to run 100 feet 4/0 direct burial cable from meter box
on
house to riser on pole including trench, would probably cost about $2000.
The other utility requires a 4 inch HDPE conduit to be run, so the same
job
would be another $500. In your area the utility company may do it
themselves
and charge a per foot fee. I'd suggest calling either a local electrician
or
the utility and ask some questions

"Reed Hurtt" wrote in message

ink.net...

Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line
re-routed.


snip


Just some stats that may be useful: we are readying a rehab project
for underground service now to avoid removing trees that have
surrounded the 'drop' . Our power company (AmerenIP) in cenral
Illinois requires a 3" PVC conduit for burial. The other requirement
is no more tha one 45 degree bend in the run. At the house and the
pole there must be a 90 dgree bend, galavnized only. These two are
pricey, $135 apiece at our distributor. The meter base is larger, an
offset Type 2 , IIRC. Same price as smaller ones, $43. Power company
supplies and pulls wire to meter base and hooks up to their
connections. If my electrical sub has his work in place by then, I've
got power in palace. The guy with the Ditch Witch owes me one so that
is free. So I'm out of pocket about $500 max for a 65 foot run. I
suspect that many places in the country will comparable, so $1000 or
less ought to cover most situations. Might be higher in the sovereign
country of California g.

Joe




Kate August 6th 07 12:42 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
I've had this done TWICE
Once in central California about 5 years ago. The line was interfering with
a budding 30' redwood tree. I called the utility company and asked them to
move it.
Ok, it ran right across my gazebo too and was unsightly as hell.
They moved it at NO COST.

Now, I live in West Tennessee. We had an overhead line that ran to our shop
for an outside light that needed to come down with the pole and light. The
shop was running on a line that ran from the house breaker box (I didn't
build it, I bought it) . We wanted to run a direct line underground about
120-130 ft. from the electric pole to the shop. We had to supply the
materials and conduit, this cost about $125.
They charged us ONLY $60 for the permit and they supplied the wire.

Sooooooo...
call your electric company, and ask THEM :¬)

Kate

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"Reed Hurtt" wrote in message
ink.net...
Looking for a "ballpark" cost to have a residential service line re-routed.

Situation is a 45 year old house with overhead line from pole at rear
corner of lot. The line angles across the yard at almost 45 deg angle to
corner of house. A tree has grown in the middle of the yard that we do
not want trim to the extent that would be called for because of the
line. Would rather move the line, possibly using the garage roof as
intermediate point. (Garage is free-standing in corner of back yard
opposite to the power pole.) Lot is 60 x 100, line is about 60' long now.

Any ideas what a typical local power co. in large metro area would
charge to do such a thing ??

Would rather not call the co., as they would probably be out cutting the
tree before I could hang up phone ;-(

TIA, Reed



Kate August 6th 07 12:46 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
Oh AND, they ran the trench at no cost...
I posted this once before, but it seems to have gotten lost.

Sorry if it doubles up later on

Kate

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l-L -OlllllllO-
()_)-()_)--)_)




aemeijers August 6th 07 01:24 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 

"Kate" wrote in message
...
Oh AND, they ran the trench at no cost...
I posted this once before, but it seems to have gotten lost.

Sorry if it doubles up later on

All these stories of free or deeply-discounted replacement service drop
installs / switches to buried service, don't surprise me a bit. It is real
cheap insurance for them, as long as they don't have to set a new pole, pad,
or transformer. A lot easier to change it out on a balmy summer day, than at
0200 on a minus-30 January morning. Plus, of course, every home owner whose
power stays ON during nasty weather, is one less homeowner writing ****y
letters to the state utilities people.

aem sends...



Kate August 6th 07 11:04 AM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 

"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

"Kate" wrote in message
...
Oh AND, they ran the trench at no cost...
I posted this once before, but it seems to have gotten lost.

Sorry if it doubles up later on

All these stories of free or deeply-discounted replacement service drop
installs / switches to buried service, don't surprise me a bit. It is real
cheap insurance for them, as long as they don't have to set a new pole, pad,
or transformer. A lot easier to change it out on a balmy summer day, than at
0200 on a minus-30 January morning. Plus, of course, every home owner whose
power stays ON during nasty weather, is one less homeowner writing ****y
letters to the state utilities people.

aem sends...

I think you're exactly right.
If they do it themselves, then they don't have to worry about someone
throwing a wrench in the works

Kate

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()_)-()_)--)_)




gg[_3_] November 14th 16 12:44 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
replying to Puddin' Man, gg wrote:
in Illinois, com ed charges 850.00 to move line and 750.00 for the connector
that clamps onto the middle of the line.!!!! What a farce!!!!

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gg[_3_] November 14th 16 12:44 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
replying to Joe, gg wrote:
Joe, In Oak Lawn Il we have to pay approx. 1,750.00 from Comed! That is for
...1. moving the line and ... 2. a connection piece that clamps onto the
middle of the wire. UNBELIEVEABLE, HUH????

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gg[_3_] November 14th 16 12:44 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
replying to Kate, gg wrote:
You got off cheap!!! $1,750.00 in Illinois!!!!

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DerbyDad03 November 14th 16 01:32 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 7:44:04 AM UTC-5, gg wrote:
replying to Kate, gg wrote:
You got off cheap!!! $1,750.00 in Illinois!!!!


How much would it have cost 10 years ago when the OP asked the question?

hah[_4_] November 14th 16 03:37 PM

Cost to relocate electric service drop
 
On 11/14/2016 07:32 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 7:44:04 AM UTC-5, gg wrote:
replying to Kate, gg wrote:
You got off cheap!!! $1,750.00 in Illinois!!!!


How much would it have cost 10 years ago when the OP asked the question?


And nobody has an electric drop anymore, since 2012 when everyone got
their own M/AM R. So, replies to this post are completely useless.

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