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MikeL July 29th 07 01:14 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs, but you
can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the internal
overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a
compressor..
But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the
compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high pressure,
and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to check
the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I don't
want to put any money in it)
Thanks for your advise!


No Name July 29th 07 04:47 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 

"MikeL" wrote in message
ups.com...
this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs, but you
can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the internal
overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a
compressor..
But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the
compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high pressure,
and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to check
the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I don't
want to put any money in it)
Thanks for your advise!



Low on refrigerant causing high pressure problems?????

"but I don't want to put any money in it"

Wouldn't the tap cost money? :-)

BTW, do you hold an EPA card? If not, your not allowed to work on the sealed
system.




Telstra July 29th 07 07:39 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
DONT torture it to death SHOOT IT
"MikeL" wrote in message
ups.com...
this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs, but you
can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the internal
overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a
compressor..
But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the
compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high pressure,
and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to check
the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I don't
want to put any money in it)
Thanks for your advise!




No Name July 29th 07 05:30 PM

A/C Window unit 10K
 

"Clark" wrote in message
...
MikeL wrote in news:1185668049.818130.307350
@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs, but you
can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the internal
overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a
compressor..
But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the
compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high pressure,
and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to check
the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I don't
want to put any money in it)
Thanks for your advise!

External overload? internal overload? Whatinthehell are you trying to
describe? There are no "overload" switches in an A/C. A unit may have high
and low pressure switches but "overloads," no.



Try telling Copeland, Tecumseh, Bristol, Danfoss, Carlyle, etc that their
compressors have no 'overloads'. LOL


Clean the filter and the ice will stop forming on the evaporator. The unit
will perform normally after that (until the filter gets dirty again).



But what if, its not the filter?



jim July 30th 07 02:48 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
On Jul 29, 8:12 pm, Clark wrote:
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:31f36$46acc01b$9440c41e$17180
@STARBAND.NET:







"Clark" wrote in message
.. .
MikeL wrote in news:1185668049.818130.307350
@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:


this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs, but you
can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the internal
overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a
compressor..
But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the
compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high pressure,
and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to check
the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I don't
want to put any money in it)
Thanks for your advise!


External overload? internal overload? Whatinthehell are you trying to
describe? There are no "overload" switches in an A/C. A unit may have high
and low pressure switches but "overloads," no.


Try telling Copeland, Tecumseh, Bristol, Danfoss, Carlyle, etc that their
compressors have no 'overloads'. LOL


They possibly have pressure limit and temperature limit switches not
"overloads." None of those folks actually measure a compressor load, e.g. the
work the compressor is performing. A breaker would come closer to be an
actual overload switch...



Clean the filter and the ice will stop forming on the evaporator. The unit
will perform normally after that (until the filter gets dirty again).


But what if, its not the filter?


But it most likely is, even if you didn't think of it.

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I agree clean and should run till dirty again window units rarely have
overloads just temp shutdowns


Stormin Mormon July 30th 07 03:18 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
Ah, a real man. Would you use a Colt six shooter?

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Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
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"Telstra" wrote in message
...
: DONT torture it to death SHOOT IT
: "MikeL" wrote in message
: ups.com...
: this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
: overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs,
but you
: can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the
internal
: overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing
a
: compressor..
: But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/
the
: compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high
pressure,
: and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to
check
: the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I
don't
: want to put any money in it)
: Thanks for your advise!
:
:
:



Stormin Mormon July 30th 07 03:19 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
Every window shaker AC I've worked on has had an overload
protector for the compressor. What's your source of information?

I've never seen a high or low pressure limit switch in a window
AC.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Clark" wrote in message
...

: External overload? internal overload? Whatinthehell are you
trying to
: describe? There are no "overload" switches in an A/C. A unit
may have high
: and low pressure switches but "overloads," no.
:
: Clean the filter and the ice will stop forming on the
evaporator. The unit
: will perform normally after that (until the filter gets dirty
again).
:
:
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: ---
: there should be a "sig" here



Stormin Mormon July 30th 07 03:21 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
The window AC I've serviced have a protector that trips in case
of high temperature of the compressor, or high amperage. What's
your source of information? Is it dark in there?

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Clark" wrote in message
...
:
: They possibly have pressure limit and temperature limit
switches not
: "overloads." None of those folks actually measure a compressor
load, e.g. the
: work the compressor is performing. A breaker would come closer
to be an
: actual overload switch...



Stormin Mormon July 30th 07 03:22 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
More likely a dirty condensor. Dissemble the unit and clean both
coils.

Incidentally, please don't ever remove or bypass an overload
protector. It's there to protect you.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"MikeL" wrote in message
ups.com...
: this unit is a 1.5 years old and it cuts out the external
: overload....jumping out the exteral OL, the compressor runs,
but you
: can feel it heating up and it will eventually cut out the
internal
: overload. I know these units are probably not worth replacing a
: compressor..
: But I was wondering...is it possibly an internal problem w/ the
: compressor or could it be a low freon problem causing high
pressure,
: and then cutting out? Is it worth putting a line tap on it to
check
: the pressures to see? (I don't mind 'tinkering' w/ it, but I
don't
: want to put any money in it)
: Thanks for your advise!
:



Stormin Mormon July 30th 07 06:08 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
"Clark" wrote in message
...
: "Stormin Mormon" wrote in
news:46ad4c09
: :
:
: Every window shaker AC I've worked on has had an overload
: protector for the compressor. What's your source of
information?
:
: Do you mean: other than working on systems what is your source
of
: information?

CY: I didn't say "other than", I asked the source of information.
:
:
: I've never seen a high or low pressure limit switch in a
window
: AC.
:
: What exactly is this "overload protector" measuring? There are
breakers and
: there are fusible links. There are no actual compressor load
protectors
: either internal or external that the orginal poster claimed.

CY: Amperage, and I believe also temperature. I'm sure of
amperage, though. Most compressors I service, the overloads are
external. One brand (Copeland?) puts the overload internal.
:
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Stormin Mormon July 30th 07 06:16 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
"Clark" wrote in message
...
: "Stormin Mormon" wrote in
news:46ad4c09
: :
:
: Every window shaker AC I've worked on has had an overload
: protector for the compressor. What's your source of
information?
:
: Do you mean: other than working on systems what is your source
of
: information?

CY: I didn't say "other than", I asked the source of information.
:
:
: I've never seen a high or low pressure limit switch in a
window
: AC.
:
: What exactly is this "overload protector" measuring? There are
breakers and
: there are fusible links. There are no actual compressor load
protectors
: either internal or external that the orginal poster claimed.

CY: Amperage, and temperature. Most compressors I service, the
overloads are
external. One brand (Copeland?) puts the overload internal.

http://www.fridgedoctor.com/fridge-d...ompressor.html
Web page about refrigerator overloads.

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lp13-30 July 30th 07 02:24 PM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
AFAIK, all window units come with a 5 year compressor warranty-- some
with P&L on the "sealed system". If the unit is actually no more than 1
1/2 y/o, first try and talk to the store mgr where the unit came from
and see if they will just replace it. I have an old friend who bought a
small unit from HD, and at just under 2 y/o the fan quit. He took the
cover off and found that the whole bracket or whatever the fan assy was
mounted to had rusted away. He took it back to HD and raised some hell
and got a new unit. Good luck Larry


lp13-30 July 31st 07 04:03 AM

A/C Window unit 10K
 
The OP said the compressor was overheating and cutting out on IOL. That
is NOT caused by low air flow across the evaporator--due to a dirty
filter or anything else. Low air flow across the condenser however is a
distinct possibility. The OP said the unit is 1.5 y/o. I wonder if that
was a typo, as he also said the unit was not worth spending money on.
IMO, he should clean the condenser thoroughly and see if that makes any
difference. If it doesn't and the unit is indeed 1.5 y/o he should check
into the warranty as I suggested in a previous post. Otherwise, he shoud
not mess with it and just go buy a new one and be done with it. Window
a/cs have joined microwaves and vcrs as throwaways. They cost no more
now than they did 30+ years ago. Larry



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