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Ray K July 18th 07 03:50 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray

Norminn July 19th 07 12:41 AM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
Ray K wrote:

My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


There is a nifty gadget for spraying smaller stuff, although 11 is a
larger project than I have used them for. Preval Spray Gun is an 8 oz.
bottle for your paint, air cartridge screws on top. Instructions with
sprayer tell you how much to thin. Home Depot has them, as do some
paint stores. Can get refill air cartridges, too. I used oil paint,
thinned with ?Penetrol (from paint store). There is a special product
for thinning latex. I brushed the frames of louvered closet doors and
sprayed the louvers and inner surface of the frames. The spray pattern
is small, so it is perfect for louvers. Use a foam brush wrung out with
the appropriate liquid to smoothe runs or drips. My doors had
previously been painted upside-down, with lots of drips that pointed up
:o) I sliced those off with razor scraper and sanded a little bit.

Bob M. July 19th 07 01:58 AM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 

"Ray K" wrote in message
...
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to apply
three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even if
I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


Paint sprayers are perfect for this kind of job. HOwever, if it's the only
time you'll use one, go to the local rental shop & see if they have one you
can use for the weekend.

you will almost certainly be thinning the paint.


Ray K July 19th 07 12:54 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
Bob M. wrote:

"Ray K" wrote in message
...
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


Paint sprayers are perfect for this kind of job. HOwever, if it's the
only time you'll use one, go to the local rental shop & see if they have
one you can use for the weekend.

you will almost certainly be thinning the paint.


Bob,

The local rental place - generally a comprehensive place - offered
nothing for this type of project.

Ray

Ray K July 19th 07 01:00 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
Norminn wrote:
Ray K wrote:

My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


There is a nifty gadget for spraying smaller stuff, although 11 is a
larger project than I have used them for. Preval Spray Gun is an 8 oz.
bottle for your paint, air cartridge screws on top. Instructions with
sprayer tell you how much to thin. Home Depot has them, as do some
paint stores. Can get refill air cartridges, too. I used oil paint,
thinned with ?Penetrol (from paint store). There is a special product
for thinning latex. I brushed the frames of louvered closet doors and
sprayed the louvers and inner surface of the frames. The spray pattern
is small, so it is perfect for louvers. Use a foam brush wrung out with
the appropriate liquid to smoothe runs or drips. My doors had
previously been painted upside-down, with lots of drips that pointed up
:o) I sliced those off with razor scraper and sanded a little bit.


Norminn,

Sounds like a great gadget. Just last night, I was at the HD paint
department and asked about a $45 Wagner sprayer they sold. (Said it
doesn't handle latex paint.) I wonder why they didn't mention the Preval
gun. (Maybe if I had described the project they would have brought it to
my attention.) I'll check it out today.

After experimenting with a brush, I find I really do need two coats to
get a nice finish of the desired color. The shutters are about 18" x
51", so I got my work cut out for me.

Thanks for the great lead.

Ray

Ray K July 19th 07 02:09 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
Norminn wrote:
Ray K wrote:

My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


There is a nifty gadget for spraying smaller stuff, although 11 is a
larger project than I have used them for. Preval Spray Gun is an 8 oz.
bottle for your paint, air cartridge screws on top. Instructions with
sprayer tell you how much to thin. Home Depot has them, as do some
paint stores. Can get refill air cartridges, too. I used oil paint,
thinned with ?Penetrol (from paint store). There is a special product
for thinning latex. I brushed the frames of louvered closet doors and
sprayed the louvers and inner surface of the frames. The spray pattern
is small, so it is perfect for louvers. Use a foam brush wrung out with
the appropriate liquid to smoothe runs or drips. My doors had
previously been painted upside-down, with lots of drips that pointed up
:o) I sliced those off with razor scraper and sanded a little bit.


Norminn,

Sounds like a great gadget. Just checked the HD and Lowes websites;
neither shows the Preval. Amazingly, the Preval site doesn't say where
to buy it, but googling around suggests auto or boat stores.

Newsgroups give mixed reviews. Preval's site is too big on hype, and
lacks an FAQ section that typically answers the nitty-gritty details.

After experimenting with a brush, I find I really do need two coats to
get a nice finish of the desired color. The shutters are about 18" x
51", so Preval or brush, I got my work cut out for me.

Thanks for the great lead.

Ray

[email protected] July 19th 07 03:58 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
It CAN be found in paint stores.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:09:50 -0400, Ray K
wrote:


Sounds like a great gadget. Just checked the HD and Lowes websites;
neither shows the Preval. Amazingly, the Preval site doesn't say where
to buy it, but googling around suggests auto or boat stores.


Norminn July 19th 07 06:16 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
clipped

Norminn,

Sounds like a great gadget. Just last night, I was at the HD paint
department and asked about a $45 Wagner sprayer they sold. (Said it
doesn't handle latex paint.) I wonder why they didn't mention the Preval
gun. (Maybe if I had described the project they would have brought it to
my attention.) I'll check it out today.

After experimenting with a brush, I find I really do need two coats to
get a nice finish of the desired color. The shutters are about 18" x
51", so I got my work cut out for me.

Thanks for the great lead.

Ray


I'm not thrilled with HD, so when I bought another sprayer recently for
a craft project, I went to Lowe's first. Paint dept. guy had never
heard of it, but was interested. Went over to HD and, as usual, had to
find it for the clerk......bottom shelf on the back of the cashier
section in paint dept. :o) There is nothing nicer for louvers or other
small projects. I did my doors with one coat of primer and two of
paint. I purposely kept the paint coats light so's I didn't get drips.
I brushed the frames, then sprayed the insides of the frame and edges
of the louvers first, to be sure they were covered, and went over the
flat louvers next. I like alkyd for doors and trim, and kept a foam
brush wrung out in mineral spirits to catch drips and runs. Penetrol
doesn't make the paint "drippy" in the proportions called for, and there
is a similar product for latex.

Norminn July 19th 07 06:22 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
clipped

Norminn,

Sounds like a great gadget. Just checked the HD and Lowes websites;
neither shows the Preval. Amazingly, the Preval site doesn't say where
to buy it, but googling around suggests auto or boat stores.

Newsgroups give mixed reviews. Preval's site is too big on hype, and
lacks an FAQ section that typically answers the nitty-gritty details.

After experimenting with a brush, I find I really do need two coats to
get a nice finish of the desired color. The shutters are about 18" x
51", so Preval or brush, I got my work cut out for me.

Thanks for the great lead.

Ray


I first heard about them when I did some "wishful thinking" out loud at
the Ben Moore store. "I wish I had a can to spray my own paint
with"..clerk said there was such a thing, so I found one at HD. I have
gotten them at other Ben Moore stores. I painted my old range hood with
one, metal primer and enamel, and it looks terrific. Air refills don't
go a real long way, but I have reused them for different projects...just
empty the bottle and wash it out. I'm always messing with some project,
latest being a nice oak dresser a neighbor dumped at the curb...brass
locks on all of the drawers :o)

Ray K July 19th 07 08:45 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
Ray K wrote:
Norminn wrote:
Ray K wrote:

My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11
decorative, louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color
I'll be using, there is already a warning that I may have to apply
two coats. If the sprayer requires further thinning of the latex
paint, I may have to apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So
even if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


There is a nifty gadget for spraying smaller stuff, although 11 is a
larger project than I have used them for. Preval Spray Gun is an 8
oz. bottle for your paint, air cartridge screws on top. Instructions
with sprayer tell you how much to thin. Home Depot has them, as do
some paint stores. Can get refill air cartridges, too. I used oil
paint, thinned with ?Penetrol (from paint store). There is a special
product for thinning latex. I brushed the frames of louvered closet
doors and sprayed the louvers and inner surface of the frames. The
spray pattern is small, so it is perfect for louvers. Use a foam
brush wrung out with the appropriate liquid to smoothe runs or drips.
My doors had previously been painted upside-down, with lots of drips
that pointed up :o) I sliced those off with razor scraper and sanded
a little bit.


Norminn,

Sounds like a great gadget. Just checked the HD and Lowes websites;
neither shows the Preval. Amazingly, the Preval site doesn't say where
to buy it, but googling around suggests auto or boat stores.

Newsgroups give mixed reviews. Preval's site is too big on hype, and
lacks an FAQ section that typically answers the nitty-gritty details.

After experimenting with a brush, I find I really do need two coats to
get a nice finish of the desired color. The shutters are about 18" x
51", so Preval or brush, I got my work cut out for me.

Thanks for the great lead.

Ray


I found one in a small paint chain. The package says "for water based
paints, acrylics, and latex flat - thin at 3:1 ratio." Two problems
right there. I'm not going to use flat, and the paint I plan to use says
not to dilute more than 1/2 pint per gallon, which works out to 16:1
paint/water ratio. Far too thick for the Preval.

Ray

Bob M. July 20th 07 02:18 AM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 

"Ray K" wrote in message
...
Bob M. wrote:

"Ray K" wrote in message
...
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


Paint sprayers are perfect for this kind of job. HOwever, if it's the
only time you'll use one, go to the local rental shop & see if they have
one you can use for the weekend.

you will almost certainly be thinning the paint.


Bob,

The local rental place - generally a comprehensive place - offered nothing
for this type of project.

Ray


Ok, well if you're going to buy one, spend the bucks and get one worth
having. One that can do latex, oil and stain.


** Frank ** July 21st 07 04:33 AM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 

"Ray K" wrote in message
...
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to apply
three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even if
I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray



HVLP is the best way to go, maybe something like this.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91772

You could get a better HVLP setup but it will cost 10x as much.



Ray K July 21st 07 04:49 PM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
** Frank ** wrote:
"Ray K" wrote in message
...
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to apply
three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even if
I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray



HVLP is the best way to go, maybe something like this.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91772

You could get a better HVLP setup but it will cost 10x as much.


This seem too good to be true. I'll try to find user feedback on some
forum. Thanks for the lead.

Wagner offers one in this price range, but there are a lot of negative
comments about it.

Ray


Lar July 23rd 07 12:42 AM

Paint sprayer recommendations
 
Ray K wrote:
My needs are modest: paint one side (and four edges) of 11 decorative,
louvered, window shutters. With the burgundy red color I'll be using,
there is already a warning that I may have to apply two coats. If the
sprayer requires further thinning of the latex paint, I may have to
apply three coats.

With a brush, each shutter takes 25 minutes to apply one coat. So even
if I don't have to apply a second coat, it's a 5+ hour job.

Thanks,

Ray


I know of several people who has tried this and I have seen the results
of one that sprayed some patio furniture that I would of thought an
expensive sprayer was used.... they bought a cheap yard/garden sprayer,
like what you would use for pesticides.

Lar


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