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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote:
Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! Illegal Invading Aliens found a way to get here illegally, and supposedly are better off here, so they should be even more able to afford to pay their way back. I'm willing to give them 1 month to return to their country of origin without threat of deportation and permanent criminal expulsion, but they must give up their identity information / bio-metric data (ID Picture, DNA, fingerprints, rap sheet) then they may while staying in their own country apply and wait like those Noble Legal Immigrants and not like Criminal Illegal Invading Aliens. Once approved via legal process I will welcome them with open arms, otherwise they are just a bunch of Criminal Illegal Invading Alien Thugs trying to force their will and demands on legal working class U.S. citizens at the Legal Citizens expense. Guess what, as a Legal Working Class U.S. Citizen I don't have to tolerate that, and have every right to demand that my government without providing Amnesty or anything close: Secure the Southern Border (The greatest threat to our National Security / most 911 terrorists entered via this border) by building a real double walled fence let them get their ladders out it will give us more time to catch them, also we have every right to demand strict punitive fines and incarceration for illegal alien employers with mandatory sentences cumulative per each illegal alien hired. That all Law Enforcement Agencies and government employees (City, County, State and Federal Government) be required by law to actively identify, report, detain, apprehend, confine, collect Identification Information (bio-metric data) and permanently deport without the possibility of return via legal immigration and a mandatory incarceration of 5 years if returning illegally. That emergency rooms should only be required to treat unidentified persons in life or death situations, and demand some form of identification to treat them, also that they would collect bio-metric data, along with pictures, on all un-identified patients and those bring them in along with pictures and turn them over to Law Enforcement. Install very good high definition Video cameras in these emergency rooms to help identify these Illegals and those who would aid and abet them. We should have the right to demand all money transfers outside the U.S. require fingerprints, and photos, collected by a FBI Data base, which would immediately identify criminals and their current locations and automatic alert local authorities, readable by all law enforcement agencies, this would virtually stop all illegal activity in this money transfer process. I have the right to demand that not one dime of my tax dollars be spent to supplement the income of illegal aliens and their families whether born here or not they arrived via an illegal act of invading this country. They have no right to any Social Service Benefits, but the social service workers in our country continuously hand these benefits out like its an obligation, when it should be their responsibility to deny these Illegal Invading Aliens access to these benefits (They should be good stewards of their employers Tax dollars). These corrupt bureaucrats only are concerned with building their client base illegal alien or not for job security and to expand their control. We should demand that in order for these people to receive any benefits they should have to prove legal citizenship by birth certificate or green card. I've been to my county's social service office and seen multiple families there that don't speak English, applying for assistance, but they, then driving away in a brand new or very new large SUV. Why in heck are these people receiving any benefits? If we take away Illegal Alien jobs by making employers fire them and have landlords evict them under threat of severe penalties. They will have no way to legally stay here and support themselves. They will leave or be subject to apprehension and deportation which is exactly what they deserve. I could care less about how long they've been here breaking our laws, stealing identities, to obtain illegally appropriated jobs, collecting illegally received Social Service Benefits at Legal Citizen's Tax Expense, illegally using HUD provided public housing. Not to mention how much crime they commit (Any is unacceptable). If they had come here legally and are a Good Legal Citizen (No Crime), I would have no problem with them at all, but their blatant arrogance of demanding my same rights as me, a legal citizen, because they have illegally invaded and currently reside in my country illegally is something I will no longer tolerate. Stop the Senate's arrogant stupidity of trying to force the Amnesty Bill (S.1348) down our throats. It has no benefits for legal citizens in it and only benefits Illegal Aliens and their Illegal Employers for breaking our laws. What it will do is totally screw over Legal Working Class Citizens by first making them pay taxes for the cost of implementing this bill, then the cost of allowing more Amnestied People access to social service benefits including Social Security, add more people to compete in the job market which has already stagnated (stopped) wage increases while big business continues to reap more profits at their workers expense, this is a Big Business under the table wage subsidy that is outright criminal! Demand the Senate kill that bill (S.1348). Demand that Congress fund and actively enforce our immigration laws and implement the above methods to further secure our borders, apprehend illegal aliens, protect and defend our Legal Citizens physically and economically. I am not affiliated with the following websites but recommend them for your voice to be heard: Contact Information for U.S. Senate & House http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?nam...opic&t=63874&s... Take Action Today and send free faxes to Congress on your opinion of their stupidity. http://www.numbersusa.com/actionbuffet http://www.numbersusa.com/contactcongress.html Email Congressional Staff members to make your voice heard http://www.outsourcecongress.org/out...hstaffers.html Current Immigration Info: http://www.numbersusa.com/index http://www.immigrationcounters.com/ |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
Ted wrote:
On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! Because the alternative is the status quo, which is worse. Take Action Today and send free faxes to Congress on your opinion of their stupidity. Has posting to tell you of YOUR stupidity and the offensiveness of your spamming done any good? Why do you think that your Congresscritter gives any more of a damn than you do? lojbab |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
us economy depends on illegals, send them home and our economy will be
hurt bad. the low wages to our cost of goods down. its illegals here or imported from china, which do you prefer? |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
"Ted" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! Illegal Invading Aliens found a way to get here illegally, and supposedly are better off here, so they should be even more able to afford to pay their way back. I'm willing to give them 1 month to return to their country of origin without threat of deportation and permanent criminal expulsion, but they must give up their identity information / bio-metric data (ID Picture, DNA, fingerprints, rap sheet) then they may while staying in their own country apply and wait like those Noble Legal Immigrants and not like Criminal Illegal Invading Aliens. Once approved via legal process I will welcome them with open arms, otherwise they are just a bunch of Criminal Illegal Invading Alien Thugs trying to force their will and demands on legal working class U.S. citizens at the Legal Citizens expense. Guess what, as a Legal Working Class U.S. Citizen I don't have to tolerate that, and have every right to demand that my government without providing Amnesty or anything close: Secure the Southern Border (The greatest threat to our National Security / most 911 terrorists entered via this border) by building a real double walled fence let them get their ladders out it will give us more time to catch them, also we have every right to demand strict punitive fines and incarceration for illegal alien employers with mandatory sentences cumulative per each illegal alien hired. Get out your atlas. Look at the southern border. Take your ruler, and figure out how long it is. Look at the terrain. Exactly how do you expect our flat-broke governments, federal or state, to PAY for a double-wall prison fence that long, or staff it? Keep in mind, most of that border is private land, not public. Who is going to pay for a 200 yard wide strip seized from all the property owners? A fence that would make any difference covering the entire border is not gonna happen. Any place they have put up a fence, the stream of border crossers just moves elsewhere. aem sends.... |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
aemeijers wrote:
"Ted" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! Illegal Invading Aliens found a way to get here illegally, and supposedly are better off here, so they should be even more able to afford to pay their way back. I'm willing to give them 1 month to return to their country of origin without threat of deportation and permanent criminal expulsion, but they must give up their identity information / bio-metric data (ID Picture, DNA, fingerprints, rap sheet) then they may while staying in their own country apply and wait like those Noble Legal Immigrants and not like Criminal Illegal Invading Aliens. Once approved via legal process I will welcome them with open arms, otherwise they are just a bunch of Criminal Illegal Invading Alien Thugs trying to force their will and demands on legal working class U.S. citizens at the Legal Citizens expense. Guess what, as a Legal Working Class U.S. Citizen I don't have to tolerate that, and have every right to demand that my government without providing Amnesty or anything close: Secure the Southern Border (The greatest threat to our National Security / most 911 terrorists entered via this border) by building a real double walled fence let them get their ladders out it will give us more time to catch them, also we have every right to demand strict punitive fines and incarceration for illegal alien employers with mandatory sentences cumulative per each illegal alien hired. Get out your atlas. Look at the southern border. Take your ruler, and figure out how long it is. Look at the terrain. Exactly how do you expect our flat-broke governments, federal or state, to PAY for a double-wall prison fence that long, or staff it? Keep in mind, most of that border is private land, not public. Who is going to pay for a 200 yard wide strip seized from all the property owners? A fence that would make any difference covering the entire border is not gonna happen. Any place they have put up a fence, the stream of border crossers just moves elsewhere. A relatively modest strip along the border, seeded with Colbalthorium-G, would at least make the border-crossers glow in the dark. Interesting, General McArthur proposed something similar on the dividing line between North and South Korea. |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:44:23 GMT, "aemeijers"
wrote: "Ted" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! Illegal Invading Aliens found a way to get here illegally, and supposedly are better off here, so they should be even more able to afford to pay their way back. I'm willing to give them 1 month to return to their country of origin without threat of deportation and permanent criminal expulsion, but they must give up their identity information / bio-metric data (ID Picture, DNA, fingerprints, rap sheet) then they may while staying in their own country apply and wait like those Noble Legal Immigrants and not like Criminal Illegal Invading Aliens. Once approved via legal process I will welcome them with open arms, otherwise they are just a bunch of Criminal Illegal Invading Alien Thugs trying to force their will and demands on legal working class U.S. citizens at the Legal Citizens expense. Guess what, as a Legal Working Class U.S. Citizen I don't have to tolerate that, and have every right to demand that my government without providing Amnesty or anything close: Secure the Southern Border (The greatest threat to our National Security / most 911 terrorists entered via this border) by building a real double walled fence let them get their ladders out it will give us more time to catch them, also we have every right to demand strict punitive fines and incarceration for illegal alien employers with mandatory sentences cumulative per each illegal alien hired. Get out your atlas. Look at the southern border. Take your ruler, and figure out how long it is. Look at the terrain. Exactly how do you expect our flat-broke governments, federal or state, to PAY for a double-wall prison fence that long, or staff it? Keep in mind, most of that border is private land, not public. Who is going to pay for a 200 yard wide strip seized from all the property owners? A fence that would make any difference covering the entire border is not gonna happen. Any place they have put up a fence, the stream of border crossers just moves elsewhere. aem sends.... Wall, ah swore ah wouldn't get involved, but heah goes... Doesn't ANYBODY register that this whole "illegal alien" ruckus is just another ploy by the Mafiosi who dangle the Bush puppet from their strings, to distract the public from the REAL issues? Like, our troops getting murdered in Bush's Iraq oil war. They are ordered to "make peace" between religious fanatics that have been killing each other for 1600 years. Ordered by the White House Mafia, abetted by corrupt, incompetent General Officers who value their careers more than they do their country. Like, our poor children dying from lack of medical and dental care? Like women fighting to keep control of their own bodies, against the white, mostly Catholic, arch-conservative Roberts Supreme Court. Like, long-time workers who thought they had pensions being thrown to the dogs without hope of getting other work a their age. Like, those whores in Congress continuing to kiss industry ass on global warming, till it's almost too late. Like, consolidation of media outlets till there's nowhere left for thinking people to send their children to watch and learn. Like, Bush's "no child left behind" which is destroying public education by mandating test after test after test. REAL teachers who who yearn to do real teaching have no choice but to stuff children with the content they will need to pass the test after test after test. Forget real instruction; forget critical thinking; forget a true education for living in the modern world. Like, regaining the moral high ground that we had for a moment after 9/11, but quickly lost all over the world, thanks to the oilionnaires who run the country. They never had a clue that the rest of the world matters too. They condone and even encourage torture which is the LEAST efficient way to get intelligence! And on and on. The Bush Mafia, having worked hard to create a virtual dictatorship by trashing more than 200 years of Constitutional Government, is now cynically running out the clock on these and other matters,leaving the next President -- poor soul! -- to pick up the pieces. Try focussing some of your energy, your messages to (urp!) Congress and the whore media, on redressing these evils! It's all a farce. "We the people" want and need the low-wage, exploitable illegals to diaper our children, mow our lawns, do the scut work that "we the people" are too good to do. Exploitation of the illegals has depressed wages until "we the people" can't afford to work for that kind of money, given our living costs. Wake up and smell the coffee! -- Reality check |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:04:02 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote: aemeijers wrote: "Ted" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! [...] A relatively modest strip along the border, seeded with Colbalthorium-G, would at least make the border-crossers glow in the dark. Interesting, General McArthur proposed something similar on the dividing line between North and South Korea. Are you serious???!! I knew he was a crazed egomaniac, but THAT crazy? Where can I look this up? TIA |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security,No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
aspasia wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:04:02 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: aemeijers wrote: "Ted" wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! [...] A relatively modest strip along the border, seeded with Colbalthorium-G, would at least make the border-crossers glow in the dark. Interesting, General McArthur proposed something similar on the dividing line between North and South Korea. Are you serious???!! I knew he was a crazed egomaniac, but THAT crazy? Where can I look this up? TIA Me too please... Someone emailed me yesterday to the effect that if we want to find out the results of uncontrolled immigration we should inquire of the american indians. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
On Jun 17, 9:44 am, "aemeijers" wrote:
"Ted" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! Illegal Invading Aliens found a way to get here illegally, and supposedly are better off here, so they should be even more able to afford to pay their way back. I'm willing to give them 1 month to return to their country of origin without threat of deportation and permanent criminal expulsion, but they must give up their identity information / bio-metric data (ID Picture, DNA, fingerprints, rap sheet) then they may while staying in their own country apply and wait like those Noble Legal Immigrants and not like Criminal Illegal Invading Aliens. Once approved via legal process I will welcome them with open arms, otherwise they are just a bunch of Criminal Illegal Invading Alien Thugs trying to force their will and demands on legal working class U.S. citizens at the Legal Citizens expense. Guess what, as a Legal Working Class U.S. Citizen I don't have to tolerate that, and have every right to demand that my government without providing Amnesty or anything close: Secure the Southern Border (The greatest threat to our National Security / most 911 terrorists entered via this border) by building a real double walled fence let them get their ladders out it will give us more time to catch them, also we have every right to demand strict punitive fines and incarceration for illegal alien employers with mandatory sentences cumulative per each illegal alien hired. Get out your atlas. Look at the southern border. Take your ruler, and figure out how long it is. Look at the terrain. Exactly how do you expect our flat-broke governments, federal or state, to PAY for a double-wall prison fence that long, or staff it? Keep in mind, most of that border is private land, not public. Who is going to pay for a 200 yard wide strip seized from all the property owners? A fence that would make any difference covering the entire border is not gonna happen. Any place they have put up a fence, the stream of border crossers just moves elsewhere. aem sends....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Illegal aliens and those who employ them should be tried and, if found guilty, be executed. |
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Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive!
aspasia wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:04:02 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: aemeijers wrote: "Ted" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 16, 6:16 pm, "R.S." wrote: Why should we accept the Amnesty Bill, It has No Enforced Security, No Real Penalties, and therefore it is not Comprehensive! [...] A relatively modest strip along the border, seeded with Colbalthorium-G, would at least make the border-crossers glow in the dark. Interesting, General McArthur proposed something similar on the dividing line between North and South Korea. Are you serious???!! I knew he was a crazed egomaniac, but THAT crazy? Where can I look this up? He (McArthur) actually wanted to use Cobalt across the neck of Manchuria. Stanley Weintraub, "MacArthur's War: Korea and the Undoing of an American Hero" (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2000), pp. 263-264; Bruce Cumings, "The Origins of the Korean War: Volume II, The Roaring of the Cataract 1947-1950" (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1990), p. 750; Peter Hayes, "Pacific Powderkeg: American Nuclear Dilemmas in Korea" (Lexington: Lexington Books, 1991), pp. 9-10. === begin quote http://www.theava.com/04/1229-korea.html In interviews published posthumously, MacArthur said he had a plan that would have won the war in 10 days: "I would have dropped 30 or so atomic bombs . . . strung across the neck of Manchuria." Then he would have introduced half a million Chinese Nationalist troops at the Yalu and then "spread behind us - from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea - a belt of radioactive cobalt . . . it has an active life of between 60 and 120 years. For at least 60 years there could have been no land invasion of Korea from the North." He was certain that the Russians would have done nothing about this extreme strategy: "My plan was a cinch." A Second Request Cobalt 60 has 320 times the radioactivity of radium. One 400-ton cobalt H-bomb, historian Carroll Quigley has written, could wipe out all animal life on earth. MacArthur sounds like a warmongering lunatic, but he was not alone. Before the Sino-Korean offensive, a committee of the JCS had said that atomic bombs might be the decisive factor in cutting off a Chinese advance into Korea; initially they could be useful in "a cordon sanitaire [that] might be established by the UN in a strip in Manchuria immediately north of the Korean border." A few months later Congressman Albert Gore (2000 Democratic candidate Al Gore's father, subsequently a strong opponent of the Vietnam war) complained that "Korea has become a meat grinder of American manhood" and suggested "something cataclysmic" to end the war: a radiation belt dividing the Korean peninsula permanently into two. === end quote McArthur wasn't the only one with this solution. Matthew Ridgeway proposed a similar solution after McArthur's firing, as did the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In sum, the most knowledgeble political and military leaders we've produced have considered the idea. |
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