On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:33:21 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

-snip-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40


(didn't click on link)

I don't care what anyone says, it's still not a lubricant. It is good
for first-pass cleaning of greasy parts, or displacing water from
distributor caps. It is not a good lubricant.


You made 2 statements. I would have agreed with the first, "it's not
a lubricant", a few years ago. WD-40 even had on their label "This
is not a lubricant" But now their label says "Lubricates. . .
hinges, wheels, rollers, chains, gears"

So either they changed their definition of lubricates-- or changed the
recipe.

You other statement "It is not a good lubricant" might be true--
especially in the OP's case where there are products designed for
sliding door rollers--- if lubrication is really what they need.

Jim

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:33:21 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

-snip-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

(didn't click on link)

I don't care what anyone says, it's still not a lubricant. It is good
for first-pass cleaning of greasy parts, or displacing water from
distributor caps. It is not a good lubricant.


You made 2 statements. I would have agreed with the first, "it's not
a lubricant", a few years ago. WD-40 even had on their label "This
is not a lubricant" But now their label says "Lubricates. . .
hinges, wheels, rollers, chains, gears"

So either they changed their definition of lubricates-- ...

From their own web site in something they put up as opposed to supplied
"uses" -- "WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed..."

What they changed was their advertising...


You other statement "It is not a good lubricant" might be true--

More than "might" -- it is true. Works for a little while while it's
still wet, but as the product statement above notes, there ain't much
lubrication value in it...

--

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:09:21 -0400, "James"
wrote:

Thanks, cornytheclown !! This looks like a simple, straightforward answer
!!

I guess you missed my reply about White Lightning... Much easier than
using parrafin wax...

All that I need to do is to lubricate the track a bit. There is
nothing wrong with the door or the rollers....... the door doesn't stick....
.it just needs lubing. I am 100% sure of it.... just didn't know what
was the best product that might last a little while.

Out of all the answers, I think the graphite suggestion and the parrafin wax
are the most inviting....


Thanks to all who responded !!


James

James wrote:
Thanks, cornytheclown !! This looks like a simple, straightforward answer
!! All that I need to do is to lubricate the track a bit. There is
nothing wrong with the door or the rollers....... the door doesn't stick....
.it just needs lubing. I am 100% sure of it.... just didn't know what
was the best product that might last a little while.
....

What are you going to "lube" if not the rollers? "Lubing" the tracks
but not the roller bearings/axles will cause the rollers to tend to
slide, not roll just like putting your car on ice as opposed to dry
pavement. May give the symptom of rolling freely but not at all the
same thing...

You may be "100% sure" there's nothing wrong w/ the door/rollers, but
I'm not convinced by any stretch...

imo, $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ...

--

Yep. Shot my fingers off on that one............
Dan

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Dear Dan,
Please redo your research. Silicon (element) and silicone
(chemical lubricant) are two different things.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

"Dan Deckert" wrote in message
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"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
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Dan Deckert writes:

Silicon Spray. It doesn't attract dirt and has no chemical
residue.

Silicone.

Just what is in your imagination about this stuff?

It sure beats oil based lubricants such as WD-40 by miles.
Experience alone, living in a desert w/sand/dirt for 20+ yrs.
indicates otherwise.

It's a type of oil, you know, just not a mineral, animal, or
vegetable oil.
Certainly it attracts dirt.

Really? An OIL? Then how do you describe/ascribe to the
following? I'm not aware of ANY OIL that will sustain 5905
degrees F to a boil point!

Silicon

Atomic Number: 14


Atomic Weight: 28.0855


Melting Point: 1687 K (1414°C or 2577°F)


Boiling Point: 3538 K (3265°C or 5909°F)


Density: 2.3296 grams per cubic centimeter


Phase at Room Temperatu Solid


Element Classification: Semi-metal






History and Uses:

Silicon was discovered by Jöns Jacob Berzelius, a Swedish
chemist, in 1824 by heating chips of potassium in a silica
container and then carefully washing away the residual
by-products. Silicon is the seventh most abundant element in the
universe and the second most abundant element in the earth's
crust. Today, silicon is produced by heating sand (SiO2) with
carbon to temperatures approaching 2200°C.

Two allotropes of silicon exist at room temperatu
amorphous and crystalline. Amorphous appears as a brown powder
while crystalline silicon has a metallic luster and a grayish
color. Single crystals of crystalline silicon can be grown with a
process known as the Czochralski process. These crystals, when
doped with elements such as boron, gallium, germanium, phosphorus
or arsenic, are used in the manufacture of solid-state electronic
devices, such as transistors, solar cells, rectifiers and
microchips.

Silicon dioxide (SiO2), silicon's most common compound, is
the most abundant compound in the earth's crust. It commonly
takes the form of ordinary sand, but also exists as quartz, rock
crystal, amethyst, agate, flint, jasper and opal. Silicon dioxide
is extensively used in the manufacture of glass and bricks.
Silica gel, a colloidal form of silicon dioxide, easily absorbs
moisture and is used as a desiccant.

Silicon forms other useful compounds. Silicon carbide (SiC)
is nearly as hard as diamond and is used as an abrasive. Sodium
silicate (Na2SiO3), also known as water glass, is used in the
production of soaps, adhesives and as an egg preservative.
Silicon tetrachloride (SiCl4) is used to create smoke screens.
Silicon is also an important ingredient in silicone, a class of
material that is used for such things as lubricants, polishing
agents, electrical insulators and medical implants.



Estimated Crustal Abundance: 2.82×105 milligrams per
kilogram


Estimated Oceanic Abundance: 2.2 milligrams per liter


Number of Stable Isotopes: 3 (View all isotope data)


Ionization Energy: 8.152 eV


Oxidation States: +4, +2, -4


Electron Shell Configuration: 1s2
2s2 2p6
3s2 3p2







And if you don't have any residue of it, then
what exactly is the point?

Really? and the facts/data are? Residue is the **** you don't
need after applying a product for a particular need. Weird how it
seems to work here in this blowing dirt/sand country.

Many "silicone" sprays are 99 percent mineral spirits and other
hydrocarbon
stuff with a whiff of actual silicone oil. That's why it
doesn't attract
dirt or leave a residue: it just evaporates after making you
feel better.

Well that's certainly strange, even CRC doesn't list their
silicone spray @ 99% mineral spirits & other hydrocarbon
stuff.

http://www.crcind.com.au/catalogue.nsf/(MSDS)/3055%20808%20Silicone%202007/$FILE/MSDS.pdf

It certainly seems strange that you are seemingly opposed to
using silicone spray as a lubricant for a seemingly innocent
purpose of lubricating a sliding patio door.

Much less as leading off with mis-information.............just my
2 cents worth...............

Dan