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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. |
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Eigenvector wrote:
How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. I've heard of guys racing at Bonneville using tires from the 50's and 60's that were dusted with talc, bagged, and kept in cool dry storage. I don't know if I'd have the balls to do that, but apparently no tire mfgr. is willing to make new tires for certain types of land speed race cars due to liability reasons. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. I would worry after about 4 years. Note: That means that after any time, you will have shorter remaining life once placed in service. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit |
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Eigenvector wrote:
How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you know it is too long. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit |
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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted and in use? -- Walter www.rationality.net - "Eigenvector" wrote in message . .. How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Jun 2, 6:38 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote:
How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Covered you could keep them completely out of sunlight. Don't really have any feel other than "quite a long time" -- guess how comfortable I'd be driving on them would depend on what kind of tire and on what kind of vehicle and driving they were used eventually. I hadn't heard the Bonneville story -- I'd worry in that use! -- |
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On Jun 2, 7:16 pm, dpb wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:38 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Covered you could keep them completely out of sunlight. Don't really have any feel other than "quite a long time" -- guess how comfortable I'd be driving on them would depend on what kind of tire and on what kind of vehicle and driving they were used eventually. Like Joseph, I also have a "meant to" to add... I think temperature control, especially excessive heat, is important, too....if the garage isn't climate-controlled and gets quite hot during the summer months, I'd expect that to shorten expected lifetime significantly as well. -- |
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Walter R. wrote:
Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted and in use? Sunlight is the primary culprit, so probably not. If you start to see sidewall cracks, it's probably time to consider new tires. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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"Walter R." wrote in message .. . Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted and in use? There is no universal answer- depends way too much on local environmental conditions like heat and sunlight exposure, how well they were kept inflated, ad infinitum. I don't remember the figure, but several tire companies and car companies now recommend changing at X years or Y miles, whichever comes first. Best answer is to inspect and check pressure regularly. If you see sidewalls starting to crack, probably time to start looking at ads. I have one car I barely use, and the tires still look new after 4 years. The daily driver, I think the oldest tire left is maybe 7 years old, moved from the car it replaced, along with the rims. (That car is a ligtning rod- I keep getting damaged tires from road crap, so far replaced at pro-rated discount under warranty.) When you take it in for an oil change, have the pit guy use his flashlight and inspect the inner sidewalls of the tires, too. Having said all that, if the tires were five or six years old, and I was planning a cross-country trip, I'd be inclined to throw a fresh set on there just for the hell of it. Murphy being Murphy, the tire that fails will be in the middle of freaking nowhere, 51 miles to nearest town, at 2 am. (Can you tell I'm not a fan of those tiny skinny spare tires they provide these days?) aem sends... |
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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... Eigenvector wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you know it is too long. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do?? |
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"dpb" wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 2, 7:16 pm, dpb wrote: On Jun 2, 6:38 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Covered you could keep them completely out of sunlight. Don't really have any feel other than "quite a long time" -- guess how comfortable I'd be driving on them would depend on what kind of tire and on what kind of vehicle and driving they were used eventually. Like Joseph, I also have a "meant to" to add... I think temperature control, especially excessive heat, is important, too....if the garage isn't climate-controlled and gets quite hot during the summer months, I'd expect that to shorten expected lifetime significantly as well. Doesn't sound like storing tires in the garage is a smart idea. In fact it doesn't sound like storing tires is a good idea at all - unless you have 2 sets you routinely change at the seasons. |
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Eigenvector wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... Eigenvector wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you know it is too long. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do?? FWIW, I had a set of Pirelli's on my special edition Fiat that showed signs of deterioration (i.e., tread separated and they went flat) after about 15 years in the garage. YMMV. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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"Eigenvector" wrote in message . .. How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen cars with tires that were 15+ years old. You may get more detailed information on an automotive newsgroup, especially if one is devoted to classics or antiques. http://www.goodyear.com/rv/tirecare/tire_storage.html also on another page TIRE AGE A number of RV owners have established their own removal policy, averaging seven years From Bridgestone If it is any help, Bridgestone's warranty expires (6) years after the date of manufacture |
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on 6/2/2007 9:19 PM Eigenvector said the following:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... Eigenvector wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you know it is too long. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do?? They will have lasted a longer time than if they had been driven on for 6 years. No tread wear, no flexing of the sidewalls, no sunlight, less rapid temperature changes, no scuffing, etc. Inspect them for dryness and cracking. If you are not going to try them in the near future, throw some tire shine product on them, inside and out. While I am on that subject, I bought a 4 pack of Permatex's 'No Touch' tire spray at Sam's. No wiping, just spray and forget. It worked so well on the tires that I power washed and sprayed my entire engine compartment with it, including air ducts, hoses, wires, distributer, anything that was plastic, and even the painted firewall and fender wells. That was last year and it still looks good. I also did the engine compartment of my wife's car, and my friends car. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On Jun 2, 8:54 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"Eigenvector" wrote in message . .. How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen cars with tires that were 15+ years old. ... Oh, yes... I have numerous tires on farm equipment that are easily 15-20 years old and quite servicable, for the use. Don't think I'd put one back on the pickup and take off across country with one, however! The old (1958) grain truck which is only used for very local light hauling any more has tires that are easily 20 years old on it, best as I could guess based on the manufacturer info (they bear an old Co-op logo from at least two reorginizations prior to final dissolution of the Farmland and I can vaguely recall when those logo shifts occurred as I can remember some of those changes and what was going on at the time. I have no qualms driving it at country road speeds and w/ moderate loads but again I'd not put 600 bu of grain on it and start off on a long distance haul, either! I'm thinking it depends a whole lot on the circumstances but in general I'd think 10 years would be pretty safe in reasonable storage conditions... |
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"CJT" wrote in message FWIW, I had a set of Pirelli's on my special edition Fiat that showed signs of deterioration (i.e., tread separated and they went flat) after about 15 years in the garage. YMMV. What is a special edition Fiat? Was that one that runs |
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On Jun 2, 8:54 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen cars with tires that were 15+ years old. You may get more detailed information on an automotive newsgroup, especially if one is devoted to classics or antiques. Makes one wonder about these independent tire stores & Co-ops. How long have some of the more uncommon sizes been sitting in storage waiting for a buyer? -Red |
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five years from date of mfg. Like if they were being used. Five years,
then done. -- Steve Barker "Eigenvector" wrote in message . .. How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. |
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You're three years over. Five years from date of mfg. Then they should be
86'd. -- Steve Barker "Walter R." wrote in message .. . Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted and in use? -- Walter www.rationality.net - "Eigenvector" wrote in message . .. How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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In article ,
"Steve Barker" wrote: You're three years over. Five years from date of mfg. Then they should be 86'd. -- Steve Barker Well, maybe that's what your google search revealed. Mine said 10, and it sounded more like a suggestion than a law of the universe. http://www.coopertire.com/html/tires...ide/tireservic elife.asp I think these things are written by attorneys. The same ones that tell you not to eat your nightlight, no matter how hungry you get at 3 a.m. |
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nope, didn't google anything. Just have seen too many 6 year old tires
failed. Of course most tire failures are underinflation problems anyway. -- Steve Barker "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "Steve Barker" wrote: You're three years over. Five years from date of mfg. Then they should be 86'd. -- Steve Barker Well, maybe that's what your google search revealed. Mine said 10, and it sounded more like a suggestion than a law of the universe. http://www.coopertire.com/html/tires...ide/tireservic elife.asp I think these things are written by attorneys. The same ones that tell you not to eat your nightlight, no matter how hungry you get at 3 a.m. |
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"Eigenvector" wrote in message ... "Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... Eigenvector wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you know it is too long. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do?? My '69 Toyota Corona, long gone, came with single ply tires as I recall -- thin sidewalls. I didn't see any cracks but two tires suddenly went flat with no sign of a puncture and low mileage. Weathered sidewalls finally let the air out when the tires were five years old. For what it's worth, most of the rubber trim on that car also suffered sun damage. I imagine sturdier tires with two or more ply in the sidewalls would be less prone to such failure, tractor tires that live forever being an example. SJF |
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"Red" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 2, 8:54 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen cars with tires that were 15+ years old. You may get more detailed information on an automotive newsgroup, especially if one is devoted to classics or antiques. Makes one wonder about these independent tire stores & Co-ops. How long have some of the more uncommon sizes been sitting in storage waiting for a buyer? Given modern tax laws that penalize holding on to warehouse queen inventory, at maufacturer/wholesale/retail levels, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Even for somewhat common sizes, in recent years I have been told a couple of times that I will have to come back Thursday, when the truck comes in. Like any other retail chain for consumers, they only stock what history shows they can sell quickly. Of course, if you are talking real oddball stuff, like licensed 3rd-party repro Polyglas GT redline Bias Plies for your '69 'cuda show car, where they only dig out the molds and run a batch every five years, yeah, there might be cause for concern. 'NOS' is not a good thing for shelf-life parts. aem sends... |
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CJT wrote:
Eigenvector wrote: "Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... Eigenvector wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you know it is too long. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do?? FWIW, I had a set of Pirelli's on my special edition Fiat that showed signs of deterioration (i.e., tread separated and they went flat) after about 15 years in the garage. YMMV. A friend of mine bought an old Studebaker with some new-looking but obviously at least 10 year old cheap radial tires on it. After a couple days in the sun, the carcasses all expanded and the tires all threw off their tread - without the car moving at all! nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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the DOT number on the tire shows the production date. In pennsylvania
state vehicle inspection mechanics are supposed to check all tirees nymbers and reject any that are too old. I will ask a inspection buddy but I beeve it 6 to 8 years. these rules started after some accidents caused by aged tires shredding and deaths. by 10 years outdoors tires are junk, I replaced some trailer tires and a buddy has cars that get little use, like a few thousand miles a year. He was forced to replace the tires at 10 years, and remarked the tires sun shined on were much worse. |
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On Jun 3, 1:16 am, "SJF" wrote:
.... ...most of the rubber trim on that car also suffered sun damage. I imagine sturdier tires with two or more ply in the sidewalls would be less prone to such failure, tractor tires that live forever being an example. .... "Longer", maybe, yes. I can attest that tractor tires won't live "forever", however, from UV. They are very prone to developing deep cracks at the base of the tread bar and will fail under use. Takes a while, but more rubber and plies alone don't eliminate the problem, just extend it... -- |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:38:38 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote: How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the garage? By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as best you could. The best tire is a newly-made one, best safety factor too. Tires laying around attract varmints. |
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In article , wer25
@example.com (Walter R.) says... Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted and in use? Depends on the tire. I had a set of 6-ply Goodrich All Terrain that ran for a decade, and were still on the pickup and looking good when I sold it. It's best to protect them from the sun. -- For email, replace firstnamelastinitial with my first name and last initial. |
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On Jun 3, 2:45 pm, Larry Caldwell
wrote: In article . com, (dpb) says... "Longer", maybe, yes. I can attest that tractor tires won't live "forever", however, from UV. They are very prone to developing deep cracks at the base of the tread bar and will fail under use. Takes a while, but more rubber and plies alone don't eliminate the problem, just extend it... I use UV protectant on my tractor tires, and park the tractor under cover whenever possible. At $600 apiece, I want them to last as long as possible. Amen...although don't know how you can keep a spray-on protectant on the tire anyway unless the tractor isn't used... Depending on where you are and what you use, http://www.nebraskatire.com/ag_tires...overstocks.htm |
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On Jun 3, 2:48 pm, Larry Caldwell
wrote: In article , wer25 @example.com (Walter R.) says... Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted and in use? Depends on the tire. I had a set of 6-ply Goodrich All Terrain that ran for a decade, and were still on the pickup and looking good when I sold it. It's best to protect them from the sun. And as much or more than even the tire, all the other peripheral conditions that are too numerous and variable to control to be able to generalize. My general feeling is that for local, low- to mid-speed driving, as long as the tire has been maintained at proper inflation, etc., and shows no visible signs of _extreme_ UV damage, etc., they're "safe enough". I would be somewhat nervous about taking that same tire and start cross-country on an interstate trip, especially in hot weather. Might be fine, but I'd far prefer to be safe than sorry. Before I started in a case like that, I'd put a new set on. Otherwise, I'd run them until something happened... Obviously, ymmv... -- |
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On Jun 3, 2:45 pm, Larry Caldwell
wrote: .... I use UV protectant on my tractor tires, and park the tractor under cover whenever possible. At $600 apiece, ... Actually, it's not the tire cost as much as the $200+ per refueling that's the _real_ killer... -- |
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