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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
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By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
best you could.


I've heard of guys racing at Bonneville using tires from the 50's and
60's that were dusted with talc, bagged, and kept in cool dry storage.

I don't know if I'd have the balls to do that, but apparently no tire
mfgr. is willing to make new tires for certain types of land speed race
cars due to liability reasons.

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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
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By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.


I would worry after about 4 years. Note: That means that after any
time, you will have shorter remaining life once placed in service.

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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
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By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.


Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you
know it is too long.

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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread
left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted
and in use?

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On Jun 2, 6:38 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote:
How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
best you could.


Covered you could keep them completely out of sunlight. Don't really
have any feel other than "quite a long time" -- guess how comfortable
I'd be driving on them would depend on what kind of tire and on what
kind of vehicle and driving they were used eventually.

I hadn't heard the Bonneville story -- I'd worry in that use!

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On Jun 2, 7:16 pm, dpb wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:38 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote:

How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?


By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
best you could.


Covered you could keep them completely out of sunlight. Don't really
have any feel other than "quite a long time" -- guess how comfortable
I'd be driving on them would depend on what kind of tire and on what
kind of vehicle and driving they were used eventually.


Like Joseph, I also have a "meant to" to add...

I think temperature control, especially excessive heat, is important,
too....if the garage isn't climate-controlled and gets quite hot
during the summer months, I'd expect that to shorten expected lifetime
significantly as well.

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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread
left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted
and in use?


Sunlight is the primary culprit, so probably not. If you start to see
sidewall cracks, it's probably time to consider new tires.

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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of
tread left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are
mounted and in use?

There is no universal answer- depends way too much on local environmental
conditions like heat and sunlight exposure, how well they were kept
inflated, ad infinitum. I don't remember the figure, but several tire
companies and car companies now recommend changing at X years or Y miles,
whichever comes first.

Best answer is to inspect and check pressure regularly. If you see sidewalls
starting to crack, probably time to start looking at ads. I have one car I
barely use, and the tires still look new after 4 years. The daily driver, I
think the oldest tire left is maybe 7 years old, moved from the car it
replaced, along with the rims. (That car is a ligtning rod- I keep getting
damaged tires from road crap, so far replaced at pro-rated discount under
warranty.) When you take it in for an oil change, have the pit guy use his
flashlight and inspect the inner sidewalls of the tires, too.

Having said all that, if the tires were five or six years old, and I was
planning a cross-country trip, I'd be inclined to throw a fresh set on there
just for the hell of it. Murphy being Murphy, the tire that fails will be in
the middle of freaking nowhere, 51 miles to nearest town, at 2 am. (Can you
tell I'm not a fan of those tiny skinny spare tires they provide these
days?)

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Eigenvector wrote:
How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
the garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.


Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you
know it is too long.

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So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little
worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way
to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a
set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do??




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On Jun 2, 6:38 pm, "Eigenvector" wrote:

How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?


By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as
best you could.


Covered you could keep them completely out of sunlight. Don't really
have any feel other than "quite a long time" -- guess how comfortable
I'd be driving on them would depend on what kind of tire and on what
kind of vehicle and driving they were used eventually.


Like Joseph, I also have a "meant to" to add...

I think temperature control, especially excessive heat, is important,
too....if the garage isn't climate-controlled and gets quite hot
during the summer months, I'd expect that to shorten expected lifetime
significantly as well.


Doesn't sound like storing tires in the garage is a smart idea. In fact it
doesn't sound like storing tires is a good idea at all - unless you have 2
sets you routinely change at the seasons.


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Eigenvector wrote:

How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
the garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.


Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you
know it is too long.

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So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little
worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way
to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a
set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do??


FWIW, I had a set of Pirelli's on my special edition Fiat that showed
signs of deterioration (i.e., tread separated and they went flat) after
about 15 years in the garage. YMMV.

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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
best you could.


I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five
years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen
cars with tires that were 15+ years old. You may get more detailed
information on an automotive newsgroup, especially if one is devoted to
classics or antiques.

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/tirecare/tire_storage.html

also on another page
TIRE AGE
A number of RV owners have established their own removal policy, averaging
seven years



From Bridgestone

If it is any help, Bridgestone's warranty expires (6) years after the date
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Eigenvector wrote:

How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
the garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.

Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you
know it is too long.

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So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a little
worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years. Only way
to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense tossing a
set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how they'll do??


They will have lasted a longer time than if they had been driven on for
6 years.
No tread wear, no flexing of the sidewalls, no sunlight, less rapid
temperature changes, no scuffing, etc.
Inspect them for dryness and cracking. If you are not going to try them
in the near future, throw some tire shine product on them, inside and
out. While I am on that subject, I bought a 4 pack of Permatex's 'No
Touch' tire spray at Sam's. No wiping, just spray and forget. It worked
so well on the tires that I power washed and sprayed my entire engine
compartment with it, including air ducts, hoses, wires, distributer,
anything that was plastic, and even the painted firewall and fender
wells. That was last year and it still looks good.
I also did the engine compartment of my wife's car, and my friends car.

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On Jun 2, 8:54 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?


By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
best you could.


I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five
years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen
cars with tires that were 15+ years old. ...


Oh, yes...

I have numerous tires on farm equipment that are easily 15-20 years
old and quite servicable, for the use. Don't think I'd put one back
on the pickup and take off across country with one, however!

The old (1958) grain truck which is only used for very local light
hauling any more has tires that are easily 20 years old on it, best as
I could guess based on the manufacturer info (they bear an old Co-op
logo from at least two reorginizations prior to final dissolution of
the Farmland and I can vaguely recall when those logo shifts occurred
as I can remember some of those changes and what was going on at the
time. I have no qualms driving it at country road speeds and w/
moderate loads but again I'd not put 600 bu of grain on it and start
off on a long distance haul, either!

I'm thinking it depends a whole lot on the circumstances but in
general I'd think 10 years would be pretty safe in reasonable storage
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FWIW, I had a set of Pirelli's on my special edition Fiat that showed
signs of deterioration (i.e., tread separated and they went flat) after
about 15 years in the garage. YMMV.


What is a special edition Fiat? Was that one that runs


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I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five
years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have seen
cars with tires that were 15+ years old. You may get more detailed
information on an automotive newsgroup, especially if one is devoted to
classics or antiques.


Makes one wonder about these independent tire stores & Co-ops. How
long have some of the more uncommon sizes been sitting in storage
waiting for a buyer?

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five years from date of mfg. Like if they were being used. Five years,
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You're three years over. Five years from date of mfg. Then they should be
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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
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Well, maybe that's what your google search revealed. Mine said 10, and
it sounded more like a suggestion than a law of the universe.

http://www.coopertire.com/html/tires...ide/tireservic
elife.asp

I think these things are written by attorneys. The same ones that tell
you not to eat your nightlight, no matter how hungry you get at 3 a.m.


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nope, didn't google anything. Just have seen too many 6 year old tires
failed. Of course most tire failures are underinflation problems anyway.

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You're three years over. Five years from date of mfg. Then they should
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Well, maybe that's what your google search revealed. Mine said 10, and
it sounded more like a suggestion than a law of the universe.

http://www.coopertire.com/html/tires...ide/tireservic
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I think these things are written by attorneys. The same ones that tell
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Eigenvector wrote:
How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
the garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.


Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall, you
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So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a
little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6 years.
Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess - no sense
tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting to see how
they'll do??



My '69 Toyota Corona, long gone, came with single ply tires as I recall --
thin sidewalls. I didn't see any cracks but two tires suddenly went flat
with no sign of a puncture and low mileage. Weathered sidewalls finally let
the air out when the tires were five years old.

For what it's worth, most of the rubber trim on that car also suffered sun
damage. I imagine sturdier tires with two or more ply in the sidewalls
would be less prone to such failure, tractor tires that live forever being
an example.

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I don't know what the maximum is, but I've used tires that were over five
years old, driven on tires that were well over 10 years old. and have
seen
cars with tires that were 15+ years old. You may get more detailed
information on an automotive newsgroup, especially if one is devoted to
classics or antiques.


Makes one wonder about these independent tire stores & Co-ops. How
long have some of the more uncommon sizes been sitting in storage
waiting for a buyer?

Given modern tax laws that penalize holding on to warehouse queen inventory,
at maufacturer/wholesale/retail levels, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Even
for somewhat common sizes, in recent years I have been told a couple of
times that I will have to come back Thursday, when the truck comes in. Like
any other retail chain for consumers, they only stock what history shows
they can sell quickly.

Of course, if you are talking real oddball stuff, like licensed 3rd-party
repro Polyglas GT redline Bias Plies for your '69 'cuda show car, where they
only dig out the molds and run a batch every five years, yeah, there might
be cause for concern. 'NOS' is not a good thing for shelf-life parts.

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Eigenvector wrote:

How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in
the garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight
as best you could.


Just wanted to add, once you start seeing cracks in the sidewall,
you know it is too long.

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So far as I can tell the rubber looks to be just fine. I guess I'm a
little worried seeing how they've been in the garage for about 6
years. Only way to tell is to mount them and see what happens I guess
- no sense tossing a set of 4 completely good tires without attempting
to see how they'll do??

FWIW, I had a set of Pirelli's on my special edition Fiat that showed
signs of deterioration (i.e., tread separated and they went flat) after
about 15 years in the garage. YMMV.


A friend of mine bought an old Studebaker with some new-looking but
obviously at least 10 year old cheap radial tires on it. After a couple
days in the sun, the carcasses all expanded and the tires all threw off
their tread - without the car moving at all!

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the DOT number on the tire shows the production date. In pennsylvania
state vehicle inspection mechanics are supposed to check all tirees
nymbers and reject any that are too old. I will ask a inspection buddy
but I beeve it 6 to 8 years. these rules started after some accidents
caused by aged tires shredding and deaths.

by 10 years outdoors tires are junk, I replaced some trailer tires and
a buddy has cars that get little use, like a few thousand miles a
year.

He was forced to replace the tires at 10 years, and remarked the tires
sun shined on were much worse.



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...most of the rubber trim on that car also suffered sun
damage. I imagine sturdier tires with two or more ply in the sidewalls
would be less prone to such failure, tractor tires that live forever being
an example.

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"Longer", maybe, yes. I can attest that tractor tires won't live
"forever", however, from UV. They are very prone to developing deep
cracks at the base of the tread bar and will fail under use. Takes a
while, but more rubber and plies alone don't eliminate the problem,
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How long would you expect a set of car tires to last when stored in the
garage?

By stored I mean dismounted, no rims, no wheels, kept out of sunlight as
best you could.


The best tire is a newly-made one, best safety factor too. Tires
laying around attract varmints.
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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread
left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted
and in use?


Depends on the tire. I had a set of 6-ply Goodrich All Terrain that ran
for a decade, and were still on the pickup and looking good when I sold
it. It's best to protect them from the sun.

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"Longer", maybe, yes. I can attest that tractor tires won't live
"forever", however, from UV. They are very prone to developing deep
cracks at the base of the tread bar and will fail under use. Takes a
while, but more rubber and plies alone don't eliminate the problem,
just extend it...


I use UV protectant on my tractor tires, and park the tractor under
cover whenever possible. At $600 apiece, I want them to last as long as
possible.


Amen...although don't know how you can keep a spray-on protectant on
the tire anyway unless the tractor isn't used...

Depending on where you are and what you use,

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Brings up the question: How long will tires last when they are in use? I
drive 3000 miles a year. My tires are 8 years old. They have a lot of tread
left but, are they still save? Do tires last longer when they are mounted
and in use?


Depends on the tire. I had a set of 6-ply Goodrich All Terrain that ran
for a decade, and were still on the pickup and looking good when I sold
it. It's best to protect them from the sun.


And as much or more than even the tire, all the other peripheral
conditions that are too numerous and variable to control to be able to
generalize.

My general feeling is that for local, low- to mid-speed driving, as
long as the tire has been maintained at proper inflation, etc., and
shows no visible signs of _extreme_ UV damage, etc., they're "safe
enough". I would be somewhat nervous about taking that same tire and
start cross-country on an interstate trip, especially in hot weather.
Might be fine, but I'd far prefer to be safe than sorry. Before I
started in a case like that, I'd put a new set on. Otherwise, I'd run
them until something happened...

Obviously, ymmv...

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Actually, it's not the tire cost as much as the $200+ per refueling
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