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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw
them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i |
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"Ignoramus6369" wrote: (clip) What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ask to see their business license, and start dialing city hall on the cell phone. The problem is, the same brain that got your neighbor into that situation is trying to get him out of it. The best way to get out of trouble is to stay out in the first place. |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote:
It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i At my age, my rules for a happy life a 1. Never stand when you can sit. 2. Never pass up an opportunity to take a leak. 3. never trust a fart. 4. Never waste an erection. and most importantly... 5. Never pay tradesmen in advance. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*1014 fathoms per fortnight. |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. Well, paying in advance was his first problem. After that she is pretty well lost, assuming they are con men. Years ago I hired a reputable landscaper to put in a 6 course retaining wall. They put in 5 courses and said they were done. When I complained he said he had used up all his budgeted materials, so there was nothing he could do. I was going to sue him, and I would have certainly won, but my wife begged me not to. It was very painful to let that go. |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
On May 12, 11:43 am, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Ignoramus6369 wrote: It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i At my age, my rules for a happy life a 1. Never stand when you can sit. 2. Never pass up an opportunity to take a leak. 3. never trust a fart. 4. Never waste an erection. and most importantly... 5. Never pay tradesmen in advance. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*1014 fathoms per fortnight.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And I think #5 is key here, unless he was gonna have sex with the contractor too, then #4 would apply. These driveby seal coat guys are well known for having a high percentage of scammers. I would never use one period, because even if you pay them at the end, you don't know what they put down. And you can bet many of them use the cheapest crap that will look good right after it goes on, but might not last a month. |
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 12:43:02 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: At my age, my rules for a happy life a 4. Never waste an erection. and most importantly... I think number 4 would be the most important. I can't figure out how to win a race with a pee hard back to bed. |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote:
What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? Make an On-Topic posting in the right group? Nick |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
On Sat, 12 May 2007 12:43:02 -0400, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
5. Never pay tradesmen in advance. If a contractor is doing work that requires him to make significant material purchases, paying half, or paying for the materials, is perfectly reasonable. -- As he backed away from Maryann, away from his rope, away from his intentions to harm her, and, hopefully, away from his image of himself as a big, bad dude who could have any "fun" he wanted with a woman, he started muttering, "Bitches with guns. Bitches with guns. Bitches with guns." He kept saying it over and over, as his own surprise gave way to impotent anger, "Bitches with guns. Bitches with guns." - Lyn Bates, "Bitches with Guns: A Lesson in Reality" |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done without a signed contract. Third, not taking their license number and calling the police. |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote:
It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? Just be glad it was $50. BTW, you should MYOB, you're a nosey sob. |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote:
It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Dial 911. |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote in
: What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? Get license plate, start dialing police, letting them know you are doing it. They would most likely finish it without the extra money to keep the police out of the area. When they leave, call the police anyway and report the scam and license so the guy a block down doesn't get taken. Rule #1. Always get it in writing. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Swallow hard, take down the license plate number, and walk away a wiser man. Then get on the phone and start calling local authorities. Steve |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:58 GMT, Mike Dobony wrote:
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done without a signed contract. Third, not taking their license number and calling the police. Would you think that the police would have any interest? i |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:58 GMT, Mike Dobony wrote: "Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done without a signed contract. Third, not taking their license number and calling the police. Would you think that the police would have any interest? i It depends on the jurisdiction. In some places, they might consider it grounds for fraud. In others, they would refer you to the proper civil channel to connect to. And then lots of time, these guys are just "casing" and return later to pick up loose items at houses where they know what kind of car is parked in the driveway when someone is home, whether or not you have a dog, etc. It really all depends on the local authorities, and you'd have a better chance in a small town where the police are less busy than in a big city. HTH Steve |
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On May 12, 4:20 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Swallow hard, take down the license plate number, and walk away a wiser man. Then get on the phone and start calling local authorities. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, like local authorities don't have anything better to do than waste their time on this crap? They're gonna tell you it's a contract dispute, it's a civil matter, and take it to court if you like. Good luck there. |
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wrote Yeah, like local authorities don't have anything better to do than waste their time on this crap? They're gonna tell you it's a contract dispute, it's a civil matter, and take it to court if you like. Good luck there. I guess you didn't read my post very well. I see that you even snipped it. I shall repost it. This time, if you don't read it all, JUST READ THE FIRST SENTENCE. HTH, but I doubt it. repeat of my post It depends on the jurisdiction. In some places, they might consider it grounds for fraud. In others, they would refer you to the proper civil channel to connect to. And then lots of time, these guys are just "casing" and return later to pick up loose items at houses where they know what kind of car is parked in the driveway when someone is home, whether or not you have a dog, etc. It really all depends on the local authorities, and you'd have a better chance in a small town where the police are less busy than in a big city. Now go take a blood pressure pill and a nap. Sheesh. Steve |
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On May 12, 3:15 pm, wrote:
On May 12, 4:20 pm, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus6369" wrote in message m... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Swallow hard, take down the license plate number, and walk away a wiser man. Then get on the phone and start calling local authorities. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, like local authorities don't have anything better to do than waste their time on this crap? They're gonna tell you it's a contract dispute, it's a civil matter, and take it to court if you like. Good luck there. Maybe, but here I suspect they would locate them and determine if they had a city business license. If not they would be happy to make sure they paid the city a nice fine for not having a license. You might not get your money back, but they might not be able to keep the money. Dan |
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wrote in message oups.com... On May 12, 3:15 pm, wrote: On May 12, 4:20 pm, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus6369" wrote in message m... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Swallow hard, take down the license plate number, and walk away a wiser man. Then get on the phone and start calling local authorities. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, like local authorities don't have anything better to do than waste their time on this crap? They're gonna tell you it's a contract dispute, it's a civil matter, and take it to court if you like. Good luck there. Maybe, but here I suspect they would locate them and determine if they had a city business license. If not they would be happy to make sure they paid the city a nice fine for not having a license. You might not get your money back, but they might not be able to keep the money. Dan Dan, do YOU think that you'd have a better chance of getting something done by the police in a small town or in a big city? trader and I seem to think differently on this. What do you think? Steve |
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On May 12, 9:41 pm, Rocky "the rookie" wrote:
Just be glad it was $50. BTW, you should MYOB, you're a nosey sob. Geez. Ever heard of being friendly with your neighbours? Chris |
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Your friend is lucky if what his driveway was sprayed with was not
simply drained crankcase oil. That's what the "Gypsy Travelers" usually use in their scams. Tell your friend that he is now a "sucker of the first order"!!!!!! Hell, most of us learned about this scam well before we were old enough to have sex! Harry C. On May 12, 12:09 pm, Ignoramus6369 wrote: It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... On May 12, 3:15 pm, wrote: On May 12, 4:20 pm, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus6369" wrote in message m... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Swallow hard, take down the license plate number, and walk away a wiser man. Then get on the phone and start calling local authorities. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, like local authorities don't have anything better to do than waste their time on this crap? They're gonna tell you it's a contract dispute, it's a civil matter, and take it to court if you like. Good luck there. Maybe, but here I suspect they would locate them and determine if they had a city business license. If not they would be happy to make sure they paid the city a nice fine for not having a license. You might not get your money back, but they might not be able to keep the money. Dan Dan, do YOU think that you'd have a better chance of getting something done by the police in a small town or in a big city? trader and I seem to think differently on this. What do you think? In the small towns I have lived in, yeah, the local law does roust drive-by scammers like this pretty hard, mainly because their preferred victims usually have gray hair. Young homeowners usually don't care how driveway looks, or are strong enough to go to Home Despot, and get a mop and couple 5-gallon buckets of glop and do it themselves. aem sends... |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
Ignoramus6369 wrote:
It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Block the driveway with your car. -- To reply via e-mail please delete 1 c from paccbell |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:58:02 GMT, George Grapman wrote:
Ignoramus6369 wrote: It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Block the driveway with your car. These were my own thoughts. i |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote: It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? Well, if you were foolish enough to take that deal, you would probably also be foolish enough to pay the additional $50. Your neighbor should have turned around and demanded his money back after quietly calling the cops. |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:11:23 -0400, Shawn Hirn wrote:
Well, if you were foolish enough to take that deal, you would probably also be foolish enough to pay the additional $50. Your neighbor should have turned around and demanded his money back after quietly calling the cops. My main question is, would cops be interested in these people or not. i |
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Ignoramus6369 wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:11:23 -0400, Shawn Hirn wrote: Well, if you were foolish enough to take that deal, you would probably also be foolish enough to pay the additional $50. Your neighbor should have turned around and demanded his money back after quietly calling the cops. My main question is, would cops be interested in these people or not. It depends. Probably in smaller towns, yes. In a large urban community, its a definite maybe. |
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"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:11:23 -0400, Shawn Hirn wrote: Well, if you were foolish enough to take that deal, you would probably also be foolish enough to pay the additional $50. Your neighbor should have turned around and demanded his money back after quietly calling the cops. My main question is, would cops be interested in these people or not. I know that in our town they'd have some interest and maybe even make the local news to be on the lookout for scams. If not properly licensed, they'd at least run them out of town. |
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"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:11:23 -0400, Shawn Hirn wrote: Well, if you were foolish enough to take that deal, you would probably also be foolish enough to pay the additional $50. Your neighbor should have turned around and demanded his money back after quietly calling the cops. My main question is, would cops be interested in these people or not. i Iggy, it's hard to say. Police go to schools to learn what constitutes a crime and what does not. It protects them from false arrest lawsuits. When a crime has been committed, they WILL act. When it is the kind of issue that needs to be addressed by civil channels, they will usually steer you to someone you can make a complaint to. The best thing to do in these situations is to call the police, tell them that you feel you are in a threatening situation, and let them come out and make a determination. That way, if they can do something, they do it right then. If not, they advise the reporting person, and move on. After all, the man was making demands for money your neighbor felt he did not owe. In this situation, telling the workmen that you don't know what to do, so you have called the police to come out, and you will do whatever they say. The workmen usually vaporize right after that. I had a painter leave so fast he left half his gear. AS I SAID BEFORE, it really depends on where you live. Smaller towns have more time to deal with these situations, where in a bigger city, you might not even get anyone to respond. I don't know the size of your town, so you would be the best judge of that. HTH Steve |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
Well friend, if you waited until 60 to get laid, you are a very
exceptional person or maybe Irish. In most regions of the US, normal kids have sex before the age of 15. I wanted to have sex since I was 12, but the girls I knew hadn't yet reached puberty. Actually, the first real sex that I ever had was at the age of 19, and I married the girl. We'll celebrate our 49th on July 11th. Also, by the age of 12, unless retarded and riding the short bus, most kids know about the Gypsy Travelers, who are usually of Irish origin, and derived from the "Tinkers", not Gypsy's at all. Most are the scum of Ireland. If you don't know who the Tinkers are, consult an irishman or Google. Damn, what is it with you young people, are you mentally regarded or simply stupid. I cannot imagine anyone today not being familiar with the 'Irish Traveler' scam. What has been described in this thread is precisely what they do for a living. Damn, how dumb can you get! Harry C. On May 12, 8:02 pm, Terry wrote: On 12 May 2007 16:29:16 -0700, wrote: Your friend is lucky if what his driveway was sprayed with was not simply drained crankcase oil. That's what the "Gypsy Travelers" usually use in their scams. Tell your friend that he is now a "sucker of the first order"!!!!!! Hell, most of us learned about this scam well before we were old enough to have sex! Harry C. Speak for yourself. Most of us didn't wait until we were 60 to get laid. |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
On Sat, 12 May 2007 19:33:52 -0700, Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:11:23 -0400, Shawn Hirn wrote: Well, if you were foolish enough to take that deal, you would probably also be foolish enough to pay the additional $50. Your neighbor should have turned around and demanded his money back after quietly calling the cops. My main question is, would cops be interested in these people or not. i Iggy, it's hard to say. Police go to schools to learn what constitutes a crime and what does not. It protects them from false arrest lawsuits. When a crime has been committed, they WILL act. When it is the kind of issue that needs to be addressed by civil channels, they will usually steer you to someone you can make a complaint to. The best thing to do in these situations is to call the police, tell them that you feel you are in a threatening situation, and let them come out and make a determination. That way, if they can do something, they do it right then. If not, they advise the reporting person, and move on. After all, the man was making demands for money your neighbor felt he did not owe. In this situation, telling the workmen that you don't know what to do, so you have called the police to come out, and you will do whatever they say. The workmen usually vaporize right after that. I had a painter leave so fast he left half his gear. AS I SAID BEFORE, it really depends on where you live. Smaller towns have more time to deal with these situations, where in a bigger city, you might not even get anyone to respond. I don't know the size of your town, so you would be the best judge of that. Makes sense. We live in a suburb. Not too yuppie, but in a place where most people do mow the lawn. i |
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wrote: (clip) Damn, what is it with you young people, are you mentally regarded or simply stupid. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Do I get my choice? I'll choose "mentally regarded." |
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My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
Likely a truck from a county job or a school job or such - had leftovers
and made money on the side... No return to sender. I hope the 'oil' they sprayed sets up and turns firm. Often it is very high in oil and doesn't setup. We had our road system - 15 houses - have shale bits about 2" deep and then a heavy screen over it. The other process - we liked better - oil down and then stones. This one spread stone for some time. The first one - the oil trapped the stone - and when we rode on it - the stone meshed between lower and upper oils. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot"s Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Ignoramus6369 wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:58 GMT, Mike Dobony wrote: "Ignoramus6369" wrote in message om... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done without a signed contract. Third, not taking their license number and calling the police. Would you think that the police would have any interest? i ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Rocky "the rookie" wrote: [...] Just be glad it was $50. BTW, you should MYOB, you're a nosey sob. Are you this big an asshole in real life? -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net |
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"Terry" wrote in message ... On 12 May 2007 16:29:16 -0700, wrote: Your friend is lucky if what his driveway was sprayed with was not simply drained crankcase oil. That's what the "Gypsy Travelers" usually use in their scams. Tell your friend that he is now a "sucker of the first order"!!!!!! Hell, most of us learned about this scam well before we were old enough to have sex! Harry C. Speak for yourself. Most of us didn't wait until we were 60 to get laid. Grin!! Harold |
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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Likely a truck from a county job or a school job or such - had leftovers and made money on the side... No return to sender. I hope the 'oil' they sprayed sets up and turns firm. Often it is very high in oil and doesn't setup. We had our road system - 15 houses - have shale bits about 2" deep and then a heavy screen over it. The other process - we liked better - oil down and then stones. This one spread stone for some time. The first one - the oil trapped the stone - and when we rode on it - the stone meshed between lower and upper oils. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot"s Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Ignoramus6369 wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:58 GMT, Mike Dobony wrote: "Ignoramus6369" wrote in message ... It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened. He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work. So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy circumstances? i Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done without a signed contract. Third, not taking their license number and calling the police. Would you think that the police would have any interest? i ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Perhaps someone could explain what this Home Depot stuff is like? Here in the UK there is whats called Colas. A Coal industry product. this is an emulsion ie water miscable till it dries then its like rubber solution/ water proof and wont dissolve in the rain. Its not normally available at our equivalent Home Depot store but is available in 45gall barrels. Its been used here in the UK for as long as I can remember. Has a smell of ammonia about it till dry. Its very dk brown when out of the tin and black and shiny when dry. Used under stone chippings and as an adhesive before fresh tarmac is applied to an existing road surface. Not the same as tar tho. Hope someone can enlighten me. Ted Dorset UK. |
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