Does anyone know where I can find the above? It has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

In article . com,
nr wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find the above? It has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-modular-to-4-prong-adapterivory--pi-2111065.html

You could remove the old jack and install a new, modular outlet (jack) in its
place. The wiring is very simple. Good luck.
--

JR

Climb poles and dig holes
Have staplegun, will travel

On Apr 24, 8:37�am, Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article . com,

*nr wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the above? *It has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-modular-to-4-prong-adapterivory--pi-2111...

You could remove the old jack and install a new, modular outlet (jack) in its
place. *The wiring is very simple. *Good luck.
--
* * * * * *
JR

Climb poles and dig holes
Have staplegun, will travel

Radio shack sold them, although RS cut much of what they sold and
jacked up the price a LOT on the little that remains

They are basically a toy store these days

On Apr 24, 8:37 am, Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article . com,

nr wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the above? It has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-modular-to-4-prong-adapterivory--pi-2111...

You could remove the old jack and install a new, modular outlet (jack) in its
place. The wiring is very simple. Good luck.
--

JR


Yes, that is correct, but that's not my intent. Since I cannot find a
switched phone connector (to switch a phone on/off), I want to use the
4-prong setup to accomplish this. Continuously inserting and removing
the modular plugs causes the clip part to break off. I will plug the
modular plug into a 4-prong adapter, the adapter into the 4-prong
outlet which is plugged into the modular jack. I am open to
alternatives.

In article om,
nr wrote:

Continuously inserting and removing
the modular plugs causes the clip part to break off.

Using proper care, the clip should withstand DAILY operation without any
fatigue.

Of course, in the event the clip does break off, that would be a GREAT excuse
to buy a nice, new tool: Modular plug presser.

Getting one that does BOTH RJ11 (phone) and RJ45 (ethernet) is the best but,
of course, the most expensive.

I am open to alternatives.

Turn off the ringer on the phone. That is, of course, unless I'm missing
another need to physically/electrically disconnect the telephone.

Using a small (1-1/2 x 2-1/2 inches?) project box and DPDT switch, I placed
all the phone "station equipment" on my dial-up line "behind" (beyond) the
modem. When dialing-up, using this switch, I "killed" all the other equipment
and bridged wire beyond the modem which improved the connection.

My brother, an elementary school principal for many years, once expressed a
desire for a ringer in his bathroom. During his morning shave is when his
staff might call-in sick or whatever. I advised him to get a cheap PHONE in
there instead. He got all huffy, "I don't WANT a phone in there!!". I said,
OK. I can install a $30-50 ringer or you can install a $6 phone - and just
DON'T ANSWER IT if/when it rings! (Duh!)
--

JR

Mean Evil Bell System
Historical Society

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:24:45 -0500, Terry
wrote:


Well.....it took 2 computers. The Coco was ok, but the 1000 soured me
to Tandy.

I never even heard of the Coco!

On 24 Apr 2007 13:15:49 -0700, "
wrote:

On Apr 24, 8:37?am, Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article . com,

.r wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the above? t has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-modular-to-4-prong-adapterivory--pi-2111...

You could remove the old jack and install a new, modular outlet (jack) in its
place. he wiring is very simple. ood luck.
--

JR

Climb poles and dig holes
Have staplegun, will travel

Radio shack sold them, although RS cut much of what they sold and
jacked up the price a LOT on the little that remains

They are basically a toy store these days


I used to buy everything at Radio Shack until I bought a computer from
them way way back.

Well.....it took 2 computers. The Coco was ok, but the 1000 soured me
to Tandy.

On 24 Apr 2007 15:43:32 -0700, nr wrote:

On Apr 24, 8:37 am, Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article . com,

nr wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the above? It has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-modular-to-4-prong-adapterivory--pi-2111...

You could remove the old jack and install a new, modular outlet (jack) in its
place. The wiring is very simple. Good luck.
--

JR


Yes, that is correct, but that's not my intent. Since I cannot find a
switched phone connector (to switch a phone on/off), I want to use the
4-prong setup to accomplish this. Continuously inserting and removing
the modular plugs causes the clip part to break off. I will plug the
modular plug into a 4-prong adapter, the adapter into the 4-prong
outlet which is plugged into the modular jack. I am open to
alternatives.


How about a phone with a ringer with an on/off?

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:39:31 -0500, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

In article om,
nr wrote:

Continuously inserting and removing
the modular plugs causes the clip part to break off.

Using proper care, the clip should withstand DAILY operation without any
fatigue.

Of course, in the event the clip does break off, that would be a GREAT excuse
to buy a nice, new tool: Modular plug presser.

Getting one that does BOTH RJ11 (phone) and RJ45 (ethernet) is the best but,
of course, the most expensive.

I am open to alternatives.

Turn off the ringer on the phone. That is, of course, unless I'm missing
another need to physically/electrically disconnect the telephone.

Using a small (1-1/2 x 2-1/2 inches?) project box and DPDT switch, I placed
all the phone "station equipment" on my dial-up line "behind" (beyond) the
modem. When dialing-up, using this switch, I "killed" all the other equipment
and bridged wire beyond the modem which improved the connection.

My brother, an elementary school principal for many years, once expressed a
desire for a ringer in his bathroom. During his morning shave is when his
staff might call-in sick or whatever. I advised him to get a cheap PHONE in
there instead. He got all huffy, "I don't WANT a phone in there!!". I said,
OK. I can install a $30-50 ringer or you can install a $6 phone - and just
DON'T ANSWER IT if/when it rings! (Duh!)

I bought an AT&T cordless phone that comes with two handsets. The
extra handset can go anywhere there is an electrical outlet.

I put mine in the bathroom and that is where I open all my mail and
make my costumer service calls.

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:39:31 -0500, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

In article om,
nr wrote:

Continuously inserting and removing
the modular plugs causes the clip part to break off.

Using proper care, the clip should withstand DAILY operation without any
fatigue.

Of course, in the event the clip does break off, that would be a GREAT excuse
to buy a nice, new tool: Modular plug presser.

Getting one that does BOTH RJ11 (phone) and RJ45 (ethernet) is the best but,
of course, the most expensive.

I am open to alternatives.

Turn off the ringer on the phone. That is, of course, unless I'm missing
another need to physically/electrically disconnect the telephone.


RS used to sell a "ring control cord" that was just a fullwave
rectifier with a DPDT bypass switch.

Using a small (1-1/2 x 2-1/2 inches?) project box and DPDT switch, I placed
all the phone "station equipment" on my dial-up line "behind" (beyond) the
modem. When dialing-up, using this switch, I "killed" all the other equipment
and bridged wire beyond the modem which improved the connection.

My brother, an elementary school principal for many years, once expressed a
desire for a ringer in his bathroom. During his morning shave is when his
staff might call-in sick or whatever. I advised him to get a cheap PHONE in
there instead. He got all huffy, "I don't WANT a phone in there!!". I said,
OK. I can install a $30-50 ringer or you can install a $6 phone - and just
DON'T ANSWER IT if/when it rings! (Duh!)

I have several old VCRs, and I don't use videotape much at all. I do
have a couple of those VCRs in use as TV tuners. One costs a lot less
than something that's JUST a tuner.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"God was invented by man for a reason, that
reason is no longer applicable."

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:08:16 -0500, Terry
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:39:31 -0500, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

In article om,
nr wrote:

Continuously inserting and removing
the modular plugs causes the clip part to break off.

Using proper care, the clip should withstand DAILY operation without any
fatigue.

Of course, in the event the clip does break off, that would be a GREAT excuse
to buy a nice, new tool: Modular plug presser.

Getting one that does BOTH RJ11 (phone) and RJ45 (ethernet) is the best but,
of course, the most expensive.

I am open to alternatives.

Turn off the ringer on the phone. That is, of course, unless I'm missing
another need to physically/electrically disconnect the telephone.

Using a small (1-1/2 x 2-1/2 inches?) project box and DPDT switch, I placed
all the phone "station equipment" on my dial-up line "behind" (beyond) the
modem. When dialing-up, using this switch, I "killed" all the other equipment
and bridged wire beyond the modem which improved the connection.

My brother, an elementary school principal for many years, once expressed a
desire for a ringer in his bathroom. During his morning shave is when his
staff might call-in sick or whatever. I advised him to get a cheap PHONE in
there instead. He got all huffy, "I don't WANT a phone in there!!". I said,
OK. I can install a $30-50 ringer or you can install a $6 phone - and just
DON'T ANSWER IT if/when it rings! (Duh!)

I bought an AT&T cordless phone that comes with two handsets. The
extra handset can go anywhere there is an electrical outlet.


I have a Uniden (TRU9480) that came with 3 handsets, and claims to
allow as many as 10.

I put mine in the bathroom and that is where I open all my mail and
make my costumer service calls.


--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"God was invented by man for a reason, that
reason is no longer applicable."

In article ,
Terry wrote:

How about a phone with a ringer with an on/off?

It sounds SOOOOO simple.

However, many older folks will recall the Western Electric desk and wall
telephone that, unless specifically modified by an official Bell technician,
could not be silenced without disconnecting the set.

The Bell System knew what it was doing. sigh

Just a week ago I got a call on my company cell (already 30-minutes past
quitting time) from the owner of a large, popular "sit-down" restaurant. She
had been calling the restaurant all day but getting "nothing". As it turned
out, the caller would hear the line ringing but there was never an answer.

Being AT the Central Office when I took her urgent call, I "shoed" the pair
(metered the cable pair with the C.O. battery disconnected) and it looked good.

I drove the few miles to the PACKED restaurant and walked into the main dining
room with my tool-belt slung over my shoulder. The two, middle-aged hostesses
were overjoyed to see me.

I reached over to the Trimlinetm-style cheapie chirper phone and grabbed the
handset. The dialtone was just fine. I then grabbed the base/cradle of the
set and turned ON the ringer switch. It had been off. "Trouble" fixed.
--

JR

Climb poles and dig holes
Have staplegun, will travel

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:47:04 -0500, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

I reached over to the Trimlinetm-style cheapie chirper phone and grabbed the
handset. The dialtone was just fine. I then grabbed the base/cradle of the
set and turned ON the ringer switch. It had been off. "Trouble" fixed.

We were called out to an office one time. They had no lights. I
talked to the guy that called us. He showed me the area where the
lights were not working. He said they were always on, but were off
when he came in that morning.

Walked to the switch.....click.....problem solved.

On Apr 24, 8:37 am, Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article . com,

nr wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the above? It has a 4-prong phone
outlet at one end, a 3" or so modular cord, then a modular plug.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-modular-to-4-prong-adapterivory--pi-2111...

You could remove the old jack and install a new, modular outlet (jack) in its
place. The wiring is very simple. Good luck.
--

JR

Climb poles and dig holes
Have staplegun, will travel

You are correct, but that won't serve my purpose. I want to use the 4-
prongs to allow me to easily disconnect the connection, since I can't
find a modular cable with a switch on it (anyone know of one?).
Removing and inserting a modular plug will damage the plastic clip.
Removing the 4-prong plug from it's jack does no damage. So, I am
trying to find a 4-prong jack with a modular plug.

Toggle switch to break the red wire.

If you post your real question (need), you're more likely to get
answers you can use.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"nr" wrote in message
ps.com...
:
: Yes, that is correct, but that's not my intent. Since I cannot
find a
: switched phone connector (to switch a phone on/off),

I am open to
: alternatives.
:
:

Any electrician can put a switch that breaks the red wire.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"nr" wrote in message
ups.com...
:
: You are correct, but that won't serve my purpose. I want to
use the 4-
: prongs to allow me to easily disconnect the connection, since I
can't
: find a modular cable with a switch on it (anyone know of one?).
: Removing and inserting a modular plug will damage the plastic
clip.
: Removing the 4-prong plug from it's jack does no damage. So, I
am
: trying to find a 4-prong jack with a modular plug.
:

On 25 Apr 2007 03:39:20 -0700, nr wrote:


You are correct, but that won't serve my purpose. I want to use the 4-
prongs to allow me to easily disconnect the connection, since I can't
find a modular cable with a switch on it (anyone know of one?).
Removing and inserting a modular plug will damage the plastic clip.
Removing the 4-prong plug from it's jack does no damage. So, I am
trying to find a 4-prong jack with a modular plug.

I thought they sold modular cords, with modular plugs on each end,
with switches on them, close to one end, to turn off the phone.

If not, just use the modlular plug, and when the tab breaks off,
replace it. They sell cutter/crimper/pliers for this purpose for about
10 dollars I think for the plastic version which works well enough,
and they sell the little clear plastic connectors at 10 for 4?
dollars.

Just note which way the wire is before cutting off the old plug. Is
black on the left or the right when the tap side is up. Don't just
hold the wire in place, because if you let go of the wire it will flip
over.

I think the cheap crimper I have will do both 4 and 6 wires plugs, and
I know it will do phone line plugs as well as the cord between the
phone and the handset. Those plugs are a little bit harder to find,
but not that hard.

On Apr 24, 11:47�pm, Jim Redelfs
wrote:
In article ,

*Terry wrote:
How about a phone with a ringer with an on/off?

It sounds SOOOOO simple.

However, many older folks will recall the Western Electric desk and wall
telephone that, unless specifically modified by an official Bell technician,
could not be silenced without disconnecting the set.

The Bell System knew what it was doing. * sigh

Just a week ago I got a call on my company cell (already 30-minutes past
quitting time) from the owner of a large, popular "sit-down" restaurant. *She
had been calling the restaurant all day but getting "nothing". *As it turned
out, the caller would hear the line ringing but there was never an answer.

Being AT the Central Office when I took her urgent call, I "shoed" the pair
(metered the cable pair with the C.O. battery disconnected) and it looked good.

I drove the few miles to the PACKED restaurant and walked into the main dining
room with my tool-belt slung over my shoulder. *The two, middle-aged hostesses
were overjoyed to see me.

I reached over to the Trimlinetm-style cheapie chirper phone and grabbed the
handset. *The dialtone was just fine. *I then grabbed the base/cradle of the
set and turned ON the ringer switch. *It had been off. * "Trouble" fixed.
--
* * * * * *
JR

Climb poles and dig holes
Have staplegun, will travel

being a service tech myself its amazing the wierd troubles that occur.

had one lady dump all the toner out of her copier twice to clean it
she didnt like dirt....... although that black dirt is what made the
copies.....

In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

Toggle switch to break the red wire.

A double-pole switch, to open BOTH sides of the pair, should be used to
eliminate an unbalanced condition. (Hum on line)
--

JR

In article ,
mm wrote:

I thought they sold modular cords, with modular plugs on each end,
with switches on them, close to one end, to turn off the phone.

A great idea, but I don't recall ever seeing such a critter.

If not, just use the modlular plug, and when the tab breaks off,
replace it. They sell cutter/crimper/pliers for this purpose for about
10 dollars I think for the plastic version which works well enough,
and they sell the little clear plastic connectors at 10 for 4?
dollars.

The crimper is a great idea. I bought a plastic cheapie that pressed perhaps
a dozen plugs before one of the handles broke while being squeezed. I went to
the local Graybar Electric and bought a "real" (metal) crimper, along with a
bag of RJ11 plugs and the smaller, handset-size plugs (dunno the USOC).

Just note which way the wire is before cutting off the old plug.

In the POTS world (Plain Old Telephone Service), pair polarity is a virtual
non-issue these days - and hasn't been important for years. This, of course,
applies ONLY to a "base cord" that delivers a POTS line to a device.

Maintaining proper alignment is always best in any case.

the cheap crimper I have

Don't squeeze it too hard. I suspect I used more force than necessary when my
plastic tool broke in my hand.

as well as the cord between the phone and the handset.
Those plugs are a little bit harder to find

There are many that use the smaller-plugged, COILED handset cord to run from
the jack/outlet on the wall to the base of the phone. It makes a VERY loose
fit and is prone to trouble, but it does work - usually.

The REAL coup would be to crimp an RJ11 plug onto a coiled handset cord. I
believe I have seen such a mutant cord once or twice in my travels. I always
thought that such a cord would sell like hotcakes.
--

JR

Mean Evil Bell System
Historical Society

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:08:59 -0500, Jim Redelfs
wrote:


I thought they sold modular cords, with modular plugs on each end,
with switches on them, close to one end, to turn off the phone.

A great idea, but I don't recall ever seeing such a critter.

I'm not sure maybe they never did. I either made on or bought one for
my girlfriend. If I made one, it was difficult because of the wires
are thin. Regardless she never used the switch after all and threw it
back at me when we had an unfriendly breakup. It's in the next room
if I can only find it.

Don't squeeze it too hard. I suspect I used more force than necessary when my
plastic tool broke in my hand.

It pays to be weak. I have that going for me. Girls like it too, but
usually only the stronnnng ones.

as well as the cord between the phone and the handset.
Those plugs are a little bit harder to find

There are many that use the smaller-plugged, COILED handset cord to run from
the jack/outlet on the wall to the base of the phone. It makes a VERY loose
fit and is prone to trouble, but it does work - usually.

The REAL coup would be to crimp an RJ11 plug onto a coiled handset cord. I
believe I have seen such a mutant cord once or twice in my travels. I always
thought that such a cord would sell like hotcakes.

I think once, I couldn't find the little ones, so I used a wide one
and sanded it off at each side to fit. I think it was still a bit too
wide, but I was afraid the thing would fall apart if I kept sanding.

And in another case, in my bathroom, I have a handset that plugs right
into a wall jack. So I clipped off the little plug and put on a wide
one. On the wall plate is a switch to answer the phone with, a neon
light to show me when it is ringing, a switch to turn off the beeper
with, and a beeper so I can hear when it is ringing (although that
worked on the test bench and hasn't worked since. Hmmm, now I have a
cell phone to call myself with so testing would be a lot easier.)

I keep the thing dry and answer between rings. So far I'm still
alive.


JR

Mean Evil Bell System
Historical Society

On 25 Apr 2007 19:54:34 -0700, "
wrote:



being a service tech myself its amazing the wierd troubles that occur.

had one lady dump all the toner out of her copier twice to clean it
she didnt like dirt....... although that black dirt is what made the
copies.....

That's like washing a typewriter ribbon. I wonder if anyone ever did
that.