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Stamping Other's Work
Bob Morrison wrote:
In a previous post Matt Whiting wrote... I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. However, it seems to me that if someone had a design that was completed by an engineer who is no longer available (let's say deceased) and needed the design sealed in order to construct it, it would be legitimate to analyze the design and perform the critical calculations to ensure the integrity of the design and then seal it. It sounds like you wouldn't consider this legitimate. Am I understanding you correctly? Ah! The deceased engineer (DE) scenario! This presents a special case. I assume you mean the scenario where the DE dies and his seal has expired. If he dies before his seal has expired then the calcs should be able to be used "AS IS". I think I would have a conversation with the State Licensing Board BEFORE I went very far with this. Just to see what they might allow and how tightly they would look at the Yes, I agree it would be wise to check. I'm just trying to explore what other engineers consider to be reasonable interpretations of the "perform or direct" language in the laws. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote
I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? |
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"Don" wrote in message ... "Matt Whiting" wrote I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? I think its the same as "responsible charge"? That's the term used by DPR in Florida. MC |
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Don wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? Technically, in my state, it's not "direct control" if the architect that seals the drawings is not close enough to the person producing the drawings to look over their shoulder and say "hey...that's not right. Do it like this..." Your example wouldn't cut it... except if it worked like this...the satellite office drafted the plans, the architect reviewed them, then sent back the required revisions and then reviewed and approved the final plans (essentially, the satellite office is just a drafting office). If the satellite office did everything, but the architect was expected to just seal them, then it wouldn't be kosher. |
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"3D Peruna" wrote
Don wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? Technically, in my state, it's not "direct control" if the architect that seals the drawings is not close enough to the person producing the drawings to look over their shoulder and say "hey...that's not right. Do it like this..." Your example wouldn't cut it... except if it worked like this...the satellite office drafted the plans, the architect reviewed them, then sent back the required revisions and then reviewed and approved the final plans (essentially, the satellite office is just a drafting office). If the satellite office did everything, but the architect was expected to just seal them, then it wouldn't be kosher. Its a muddy line at best. I suspect anything goes, until something goes wrong or someone gets caught. That company had 3 architects in the satellite office I worked in and none of them could seal plans, there were'nt associates. All 30 of the associate architects worked in the base office 175 miles away. The 3 architects on site would make redline drawings on trash all day long that I would hardline on crystal then when the project was complete it was fedex'd to the base for printing and sealing. That company did it all, schools, jails, airports, stadiums, hospitals, interstate highways, bridges, etc. It was a cool place to work, I did alot of learnin' there. |
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"3D Peruna" wrote in message ... Don wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? Technically, in my state, it's not "direct control" if the architect that seals the drawings is not close enough to the person producing the drawings to look over their shoulder and say "hey...that's not right. Do it like this..." Your example wouldn't cut it... except if it worked like this...the satellite office drafted the plans, the architect reviewed them, then sent back the required revisions and then reviewed and approved the final plans (essentially, the satellite office is just a drafting office). If the satellite office did everything, but the architect was expected to just seal them, then it wouldn't be kosher. That used to be the case here, but now it's "responsible control" and can be done at a distance if you've taken precautions. |
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Don wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? I'm not sure, but this is how my home state law reads: http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/04...37/s37.59.html I should have said direction and control to be precisely correct. I'm sure there is case law involving interpretations of the meaning of this, but I am not familiar with it. Matt |
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MiamiCuse wrote:
"Don" wrote in message ... "Matt Whiting" wrote I wouldn't seal someone else's work either as most states require that the work be completed by you or under your direct control. What does *direct control* mean? I used to work at a place that had a base office and 2 satellite offices. An architect in the base would seal drawings prepared in a satellite. If that is direct control, then what isn't? I think its the same as "responsible charge"? That's the term used by DPR in Florida. Does FL define responsible charge? Matt |
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Totally off-topic. Start a new thread please. |
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3D Peruna wrote:
wrote: Totally off-topic. Start a new thread please. So.... how 'bout those Rams? Please don't feed the trolls. :-) |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... 3D Peruna wrote: wrote: Totally off-topic. Start a new thread please. So.... how 'bout those Rams? Please don't feed the trolls. :-) What this group needs is a little DISCIPLINE. Matt and blahblah have thrown their hats in the ring. How do we decide? Do we decide? Do they duke it out? What does the FAQ say? |
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" wrote in message ups.com... Totally off-topic. Start a new thread please. So is your post. Move along. |
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"Michael Bulatovich" wrote in message ... "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... 3D Peruna wrote: wrote: Totally off-topic. Start a new thread please. So.... how 'bout those Rams? Please don't feed the trolls. :-) What this group needs is a little DISCIPLINE. Matt and blahblah have thrown their hats in the ring. How do we decide? Do we decide? Do they duke it out? What does the FAQ say? It says FA-Q. |
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Michael Bulatovich wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... 3D Peruna wrote: wrote: Totally off-topic. Start a new thread please. So.... how 'bout those Rams? Please don't feed the trolls. :-) What this group needs is a little DISCIPLINE. Matt and blahblah have thrown their hats in the ring. How do we decide? Do we decide? Do they duke it out? What does the FAQ say? Actually, the FAQ is silent of the subject. However, the history of the group best follows the old line "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out..." I think it applies here. |
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So is your post. Move along. \ Actually, I'm the OP on this thread. So any more relevant feedback on the topic would be appreciated. Maturity level in these forums is....less than stellar. |
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" wrote in message oups.com... So is your post. Move along. \ Actually, I'm the OP on this thread. So any more relevant feedback on the topic would be appreciated. Maturity level in these forums is....less than stellar. Move along anyway. Thanks, Mgt. |
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" wrote in message oups.com... So is your post. Move along. \ Actually, I'm the OP on this thread. So any more relevant feedback on the topic would be appreciated. Maturity level in these forums is....less than stellar. You get what you pay for. A strange guy walks into a bar, and asks a bunch of regulars, who are immersed in a really intense game of bar-top coaster shuffleboard, a really mundane, self-interested question. One thing leads to another, and the regulars start to talk about whatever comes to mind as the game wears on. The strange guy complains that they aren't paying enough attention to his mundane, self-interested question. He insists that they break up their game and give him free advice. Some of the regulars tell him to take a hike. He calls them all immature. That's where we are after two periods of play. This reminds me of my intern days at a medium sized firm where a bunch of schoolmates and I used to work. The interns were on one side of a low wall drawing on mylar or vellum near beautiful window overlooking an urban back alley. On the other side the techs were drawing on computers who perennially tried to have the blinds drawn. The techs thought that the interns were immature because things would get heated sometimes, and have to resort to rubber-band warfare. (The big fat ones.) American Standard bathroom templates were cleverly adapted as face protection during the intense mano a mano parts. After tending to the wounded and burying the dead, we'd get back to work for the man who paid us all. -- MichaelB www.michaelbulatovich.ca |
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On Mar 30, 11:49 am, 3D Peruna wrote:
wrote: So is your post. Move along. \ Actually, I'm the OP on this thread. So any more relevant feedback on the topic would be appreciated. Maturity level in these forums is....less than stellar. It (alt.architecture) is an unmoderated thread...with a bunch of regulars. Think "Cheers" and you're about right. Part of the problem is that many of the posters are "drive-bys" They post and never come back. Part of the problem is that there are a few who come along that don't have a clue. Hey, stop talking about me unless it's behind my back. }:-( |
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"Michael Bulatovich" wrote
rubber-band warfare. (The big fat ones.) Add some paper clips to the mix and you're talking Lee Vo-Tech circa 1972. Still have some scars......... |
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Don wrote:
"Michael Bulatovich" wrote rubber-band warfare. (The big fat ones.) Add some paper clips to the mix and you're talking Lee Vo-Tech circa 1972. Still have some scars......... We used to have grommet fights at one job. The very first time I got in on one, we were well into it and entrenched in our positions with lots of ammo when the owner walked through and got bombarded from seven different directions at once. There was a stunned silence; the owner took a puff on his pipe and walked on without a word. -- Pork: It's the other white flag! -- James Lileks |
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On Mar 30, 8:47 am, "Don" wrote:
" wrote in message oups.com... So is your post. Move along. \ Actually, I'm the OP on this thread. So any more relevant feedback on the topic would be appreciated. Maturity level in these forums is....less than stellar. You know Don, the OP is right, what we need is a new group, alt.architecture.complaints (moderated). Move along anyway. Thanks, Mgt. Megatons, holy craps, Don ain't kiddin' Ken |
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clifto wrote:
Pork: It's the other white flag! -- James Lileks I see another fan... |
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"3D Peruna" wrote in message ... clifto wrote: Pork: It's the other white flag! -- James Lileks I see another fan... Thanks for the link. |
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Michael Bulatovich wrote:
"3D Peruna" wrote in message ... clifto wrote: Pork: It's the other white flag! -- James Lileks I see another fan... Thanks for the link. I've been injured due to laughing so hard at some of the stuff he's written up. The Gallery of Regrettable Food is a riot. |
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3D Peruna wrote:
Michael Bulatovich wrote: "3D Peruna" wrote in message ... clifto wrote: Pork: It's the other white flag! -- James Lileks I see another fan... Thanks for the link. I've been injured due to laughing so hard at some of the stuff he's written up. The Gallery of Regrettable Food is a riot. A small sampling: Image: These Outdoor Meals Almost Serve Themelves! "But we’d all run screaming for the safety of indoors if they did, wouldn’t we? Mom! The double-Karo’d outdoor pancakes have attained sentience, and are shoving themselve down people's throats! Make them stop!" |
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Just some closure from the OP.
I found some guys at work who are licensed contractors. The three of them came highly recommended from my coworkers. They finished mudding and sanding my basement in 4 days (about 12 hours total for three guys). It was great because, since they are from my work, they worked on my basement at night during the week (6PM-9PM) and on Saturday AM. Any they charged me $660. Worked out perfect and they did a fantastic job. Could not be happier. |
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