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Toller February 20th 07 05:21 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.



Father Haskell February 20th 07 05:31 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On Feb 20, 12:21 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.


"Patinating" them with a propane torch might work.


Frank February 20th 07 06:09 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On Feb 20, 12:21 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.



You might google bluing stainless steel, e.g.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluing_(steel)
Stainless of course is more resistant than regular steel but can be
blued and I doubt if dog dishes are of high quality, i.e. high
passivity, of high quality stainless.

Frank


Goedjn February 20th 07 06:33 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On 20 Feb 2007 09:31:00 -0800, "Father Haskell"
wrote:

On Feb 20, 12:21 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.


"Patinating" them with a propane torch might work.



Or stick it it the oven at the highest temp you can get, and
then douse it in oil.

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?

--Goedjn


Oren February 20th 07 07:42 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:33:49 -0500, Goedjn wrote:

On 20 Feb 2007 09:31:00 -0800, "Father Haskell"
wrote:

On Feb 20, 12:21 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.


"Patinating" them with a propane torch might work.



Or stick it it the oven at the highest temp you can get, and
then douse it in oil.

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?

--Goedjn


Must have been important enough to try permanent marker. I've heard
plenty of silly stuff, but to these people - at that time it was very
important. Given dogs are color blind; mine don't care what color his
food or bowl is.




--
Oren

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison


RicodJour February 20th 07 07:58 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 

Goedjn wrote:
On 20 Feb 2007 09:31:00 -0800, "Father Haskell"
wrote:

On Feb 20, 12:21 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.


"Patinating" them with a propane torch might work.



Or stick it it the oven at the highest temp you can get, and
then douse it in oil.

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?


If Martha Stewart Designer Doggy Dishes' stock tumbles it's your
fault.

I was more concerned about doing something to the dish that would
poison the dog.
"Hey, sorry to hear about your dog."
"Thanks. I'll miss him. His bowl looks great though, doesn't it?"
"Hell yeah!"

R


Oren February 20th 07 08:06 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On 20 Feb 2007 11:58:41 -0800, "RicodJour"
wrote:


Goedjn wrote:
On 20 Feb 2007 09:31:00 -0800, "Father Haskell"
wrote:

On Feb 20, 12:21 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.

"Patinating" them with a propane torch might work.



Or stick it it the oven at the highest temp you can get, and
then douse it in oil.

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?


If Martha Stewart Designer Doggy Dishes' stock tumbles it's your
fault.

I was more concerned about doing something to the dish that would
poison the dog.
"Hey, sorry to hear about your dog."
"Thanks. I'll miss him. His bowl looks great though, doesn't it?"
"Hell yeah!"

R


And I MADE it myself G!



--
Oren

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison


Toller February 20th 07 08:40 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?

Well, lets see... The feeder the dishes go in is made of bird's-eye maple
and walnut I harvested from a friends tree. Hmmm, why would anyone worry
about the color of dog's dish? So it looks good?!



Charles Schuler February 20th 07 10:07 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but
that wears off quickly.


Don't hurt your dogs!



Oren February 20th 07 11:52 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:40:57 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?

Well, lets see... The feeder the dishes go in is made of bird's-eye maple
and walnut I harvested from a friends tree. Hmmm, why would anyone worry
about the color of dog's dish? So it looks good?!


It looks good to you. Does the dog care?

--
Oren

"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

Toller February 21st 07 01:22 AM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:40:57 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?

Well, lets see... The feeder the dishes go in is made of bird's-eye maple
and walnut I harvested from a friends tree. Hmmm, why would anyone worry
about the color of dog's dish? So it looks good?!


It looks good to you. Does the dog care?

As long as it smells, she doesn't even have to see it.



Phisherman February 22nd 07 11:35 AM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:21:39 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

I have dog dishes set in walnut. They look cheap, but there are no
alternative; brass dog dishes don't exist; at least not at a reasonable
price.

Is there any way to darken the SS? I have tried permanent marker, but that
wears off quickly.



Wouldn't it be easier to replace the dishes with a color of your
choice? SS is easy to clean but I'm sure plastic colored ones will
do. Avoid paint or altering the chemistry of SS--it can be toxic.

BobK207 February 22nd 07 03:48 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 
On Feb 20, 5:22 pm, "Toller" wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message

... On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:40:57 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?


Well, lets see... The feeder the dishes go in is made of bird's-eye maple
and walnut I harvested from a friends tree. Hmmm, why would anyone worry
about the color of dog's dish? So it looks good?!


It looks good to you. Does the dog care?


As long as it smells, she doesn't even have to see it.


T-

I've been unsuccessful posting earlier versions of this but I'll try
again.

Black Oxide is the classic dark (anti-glare) finish for SS.

Traditional process is a professional hot chemical process, DIY cold
process exists but result is not as good.

Check with a local plating house for cost....maybe they can piggy back
your job on a bigger one.

I'm not sure about the food safety of black oxide, it is a "conversion
coating", ask the tech folks at the plater.

http://www.wayneblackoxide.com/

http://www.engineersedge.com/black_oxide.htm

Finally, since black oxide is a conversion coating & stainless steel
corrosion resistance works by developing a thin layer of chromium
oxide....the two kinda work at cross purposes. The black oxide
gives a good black color but compromises the CrO layer.....SS coated
with black oxide can rust and a dog dish seems like the perfect
environment for corrosion :(

How about a black ceramic dish?

cheers
Bob





Toller February 22nd 07 05:33 PM

Darkening Stainless steel?
 

"BobK207" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 20, 5:22 pm, "Toller" wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message

... On Tue, 20 Feb 2007
20:40:57 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that worrying about the color
of a dog's dish is more than a little silly?


Well, lets see... The feeder the dishes go in is made of bird's-eye
maple
and walnut I harvested from a friends tree. Hmmm, why would anyone
worry
about the color of dog's dish? So it looks good?!


It looks good to you. Does the dog care?


As long as it smells, she doesn't even have to see it.


T-

I've been unsuccessful posting earlier versions of this but I'll try
again.

Black Oxide is the classic dark (anti-glare) finish for SS.

Traditional process is a professional hot chemical process, DIY cold
process exists but result is not as good.

Check with a local plating house for cost....maybe they can piggy back
your job on a bigger one.

I'm not sure about the food safety of black oxide, it is a "conversion
coating", ask the tech folks at the plater.

http://www.wayneblackoxide.com/

http://www.engineersedge.com/black_oxide.htm

Finally, since black oxide is a conversion coating & stainless steel
corrosion resistance works by developing a thin layer of chromium
oxide....the two kinda work at cross purposes. The black oxide
gives a good black color but compromises the CrO layer.....SS coated
with black oxide can rust and a dog dish seems like the perfect
environment for corrosion :(

How about a black ceramic dish?

I was reluctant to use a ceramic because there is only a tiny lip to keep
the dish from falling through. But I just bought a hole cutter that could
probably work; so yes, ceramic might be a good choice here.

I appreciate your info on the black oxide.




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