I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

thanks for your help.

mike

On 16 Feb 2007 14:10:21 -0800, wrote:

I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

thanks for your help.

mike

No. IMHO.

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On Feb 16, 2:22 pm, Oren wrote:
On 16 Feb 2007 14:10:21 -0800, wrote:

I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

thanks for your help.

mike

No. IMHO.

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

Care to elaborate? Can I not just apply floor leveler to deal with
the "slip resistant florr" and then mortar over that? I truly don't
know, but don't understand why not...

In article .com, wrote:
On Feb 16, 2:22 pm, Oren wrote:
On 16 Feb 2007 14:10:21 -0800, wrote:

I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

No. IMHO.

Care to elaborate? Can I not just apply floor leveler to deal with
the "slip resistant florr" and then mortar over that? I truly don't
know, but don't understand why not...

I would also say no. Too little adhesion (to the acrylic) and
too much flexing. It might survive if you get everything totally
perfect but that's not a realistic proposition, IMO. I think
you'll have cracking problems within a year or two (maybe sooner)
and regret the decision.

Heck, follow this newsgroup for a while -- folks are reporting
shower pan problems and leaks every day or two. If yours starts
to leak, you'll have to wait in line ;-)

In any event, we'll all just say... "Told you so!"

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| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| Gary Player. |
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On Feb 16, 2:58 pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:
In article .com, wrote:
On Feb 16, 2:22 pm, Oren wrote:
On 16 Feb 2007 14:10:21 -0800, wrote:

I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

No. IMHO.

Care to elaborate? Can I not just apply floor leveler to deal with
the "slip resistant florr" and then mortar over that? I truly don't
know, but don't understand why not...

I would also say no. Too little adhesion (to the acrylic) and
too much flexing. It might survive if you get everything totally
perfect but that's not a realistic proposition, IMO. I think
you'll have cracking problems within a year or two (maybe sooner)
and regret the decision.

Heck, follow this newsgroup for a while -- folks are reporting
shower pan problems and leaks every day or two. If yours starts
to leak, you'll have to wait in line ;-)

In any event, we'll all just say... "Told you so!"

--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| Gary Player. |
|http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't think I'd have any problem with a shower pan leaking whether I
tile it or not. This is a pre fab shower pan so the primary cause of
it leaking is if it cracks and the odds of that seem roughly the same,
tile or no tile. But I understand your point about flexing which
would crack the grout. So I'd likely end up with cracked grout and
loose tile in a non-leaking shower pan. Not good.

Thanks for your help.

In article .com, wrote:

I don't think I'd have any problem with a shower pan leaking whether I
tile it or not. This is a pre fab shower pan so the primary cause of
it leaking is if it cracks and the odds of that seem roughly the same,
tile or no tile. But I understand your point about flexing which
would crack the grout. So I'd likely end up with cracked grout and
loose tile in a non-leaking shower pan. Not good.

I wouldn't bet on it. When the tiles and grout are cracked,
even minor water splashes are sucked into the cracks by
capilliary action. It doesn't take much to start causing
problems, including mold.

I really like (nice) tiling. It's attractive and very
durable. But if the tiles are not fixed to a really
sound, solid surface, it usually ends up a disaster.

--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| Gary Player. |
| http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I wouldn't bet on it. When the tiles and grout are cracked,
even minor water splashes are sucked into the cracks by
capilliary action. It doesn't take much to start causing
problems, including mold.

I really like (nice) tiling. It's attractive and very
durable. But if the tiles are not fixed to a really
sound, solid surface, it usually ends up a disaster.

Exactly.

you could drill holes in the acrylic pan
fill with sanded cement or plaster of paris.
install water proofing membrane
then tile over

if it were me
I would replace the existing pan with copper pan.


"Charles Schuler" wrote in message
. ..
| I wouldn't bet on it. When the tiles and grout are cracked,
| even minor water splashes are sucked into the cracks by
| capilliary action. It doesn't take much to start causing
| problems, including mold.
|
| I really like (nice) tiling. It's attractive and very
| durable. But if the tiles are not fixed to a really
| sound, solid surface, it usually ends up a disaster.
|
| Exactly.
|
|

On Feb 16, 5:10 pm, wrote:
I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

thanks for your help.

mike

They seem to flex too much to hold tile even if you could get them to
adhere well,

On 16 Feb 2007 14:33:22 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 16, 2:22 pm, Oren wrote:
On 16 Feb 2007 14:10:21 -0800, wrote:

I recently ripped out a 30x 60 tub and put in a 34 x 60 acrylic shower
pan. I am going to tile the walls but I am wondering if I can tile
over the shower pan and curb as well.

thanks for your help.

mike

No. IMHO.


Care to elaborate? Can I not just apply floor leveler to deal with
the "slip resistant florr" and then mortar over that? I truly don't
know, but don't understand why not...


Given my size; these pans flex, just taking a shower. I also see,
because I have removed these pans they are questionably attached to
the shower walls. Your leveler in this context will not adhere to the
pan. It will give; further breaking down tile and grout.



--
Oren

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison