How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hot water only?
Because I am paying $270 every 65 days (about 130 a month) and it
annoys me, since there is no meter or any way I can see to check the company other than to just trust them. Thanks! Dean |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hot water only?
"dean" wrote in message ups.com... Because I am paying $270 every 65 days (about 130 a month) and it annoys me, since there is no meter or any way I can see to check the company other than to just trust them. That seems very high. The truck delivering has a meter and they are checked by the state. I guess anything can be tampered with but most are legit. Have you checked for leaks? Does the line run underground at any point? Are you using warm wash and cold rinses on laundry? As for checking, you do know the volume of the tank. You can figure about how empty it should be based on how much the driver fills each time. Before the next delivery, see if you can find the level before it is filled. With a small grill tank, you can sometimes see the moisture on the tank indicating the liquid level. You have to be using gas for that to occur. I don't know how well that will work on a larger tank though. |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hot water only?
On Feb 12, 8:34 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
As for checking, you do know the volume of the tank. You can figure about how empty it should be based on how much the driver fills each time. Before the next delivery, see if you can find the level before it is filled. With a small grill tank, you can sometimes see the moisture on the tank indicating the liquid level. You have to be using gas for that to occur. I don't know how well that will work on a larger tank though. Many tanks have a guage on them. Most show % of tank volume, but mine shows actual gallons in the tank. Not real accurate, but a reasonably fair indicator. There are also stick-on strips available that give a rough estimate based on temp as Edwin stated. |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hot water only?
On 12 Feb 2007 13:56:55 -0800, "dean" wrote:
Because I am paying $270 every 65 days (about 130 a month) and it annoys me, since there is no meter or any way I can see to check the company other than to just trust them. It sounds like your usage is extremely high. I pay much less than that for water/stove/dryer & a space heater which uses more than all three 4-5 months of the year. The last few years I've paid about $1000 - while the price has gone up to about $2.50 /gal. [it's $2.70 now- but this 'year' isn't done yet] So - first convert your $ to gallons. Then call a repairman to check for leaks and malfunctions with your heater. Tell him how many gallons you're using a month and I'll bet he runs out to your house. You either have a serious leak or are due for a new heater. If I were you, I'd be happy to spend $1000 now- the payback will be less than a year. Jim |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hotwa...
If you are using that much propane for water heating and nothing else in
the house uses propane, you would probably be better off switching to an electric water heater. I was using somewhere around a gallon/day for mine (1 person), and when I switched to electric, I barely noticed any increase on the electric bill. Larry |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hotwa...
"lp13-30" wrote in message ... If you are using that much propane for water heating and nothing else in the house uses propane, you would probably be better off switching to an electric water heater. I was using somewhere around a gallon/day for mine (1 person), and when I switched to electric, I barely noticed any increase on the electric bill. Larry You must have cheap electric. Where I live the same amount of energy from electric will cost 35% more than propane. Oil is considerably less that either so I'd look at that option first. For 100,000 Btu of heat here in CT, the cost is as follows Electric 4.75 Propane 3.33 Oil 1.86 I don't know the cost of natural gas right now. |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hotwa...
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
-snip- For 100,000 Btu of heat here in CT, the cost is as follows Electric 4.75 Propane 3.33 Oil 1.86 I don't know the cost of natural gas right now. I hadn't compared them in many years, so I looked up the BTU values and came up with this in NY - near Albany/Schenectady; Heating Oil Contains 138,690 BTU's per gallon. Propane has 91,500 BTU's per gallon. Electricity has 3,413 BTU's per kilowatt hour (kwh). to adjust to 100K Btu's use price x [multiplier] Oil = .721 Propane = 1.092 Elec = 29.300 so - disregarding efficiencies & using last bill as guide; Oil = 2.13 Propane = 3.12 elec = 4.35 Propane is still a bargain over electricity here, too. Jim |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hotwa...
Hi Edwin,
When comparing the cost performance of gas and electric water heaters, we need to consider two things: one, the cost of the fuel and, secondly, the respective operating efficiencies of these tank units. The EF or "energy factor" rating of a conventional gas water heater falls in the range of 0.50 to 0.65 (the upper end representative of a high efficiency power vent model); that means between one-third to one-half of the propane consumed is effectively lost up the stack or through the tank walls. By comparison, an electric water heater might have an EF of between 0.85 and 0.95 (no stack related losses and, in this case, 100 per cent conversion efficiency). For propane, if we take 1 and divide by 0.575 (our mid point in efficiency), our fuel multiplier works out to be 1.74 and in the case of electric, 1 divided by 0.90 gives us a multiplier of 1.11. With these adjustments, our propane costs per 100,000 BTUs (net) would be $5.79 and for electric, it comes to $5.27. Reasonably close, but with electric holding the advantage. Cheers, Paul On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:24:40 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "lp13-30" wrote in message ... If you are using that much propane for water heating and nothing else in the house uses propane, you would probably be better off switching to an electric water heater. I was using somewhere around a gallon/day for mine (1 person), and when I switched to electric, I barely noticed any increase on the electric bill. Larry You must have cheap electric. Where I live the same amount of energy from electric will cost 35% more than propane. Oil is considerably less that either so I'd look at that option first. For 100,000 Btu of heat here in CT, the cost is as follows Electric 4.75 Propane 3.33 Oil 1.86 I don't know the cost of natural gas right now. |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hot water only?
Seems pretty high if it's only for hot water.
My family is the same, 2 adults, 2 kids. 500 gallon propane tank that supplies: furnace water heater range top gas dryer house is almost 3500 sqf. I use the average method and pay a consistent monthly rate of $106. I do get a break on cost though since it's considered an "Ag" rate. Check for leaks. They just filled me the other day and the propane guy was telling me about another customer down the way that had a bad leak that went undetected, poor guy lost 1000 gallons of propane before they found it. --Ben On 12 Feb 2007 13:56:55 -0800, "dean" wrote: Because I am paying $270 every 65 days (about 130 a month) and it annoys me, since there is no meter or any way I can see to check the company other than to just trust them. Thanks! Dean |
How much propane should a 2 adult 2 kiddy family use for hot water only?
On 12 Feb 2007 13:56:55 -0800, "dean" wrote:
Because I am paying $270 every 65 days (about 130 a month) and it annoys me, since there is no meter or any way I can see to check the company other than to just trust them. How much are they charging per gallon. I contracted at 1.549 but we use propane for a lot more. You can expect to pay out the butt for such small usage as you indicate. |
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