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Amateur January 12th 07 02:01 AM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 
What kind of preparation needs to be done before applying an oil-based
stain to a pine floor, other than sanding down to bare wood and using wood
filler where needed? How long would the time interval need to be between
the stain application and the first coat of polyurethane? Thanks.

RL

Edwin Pawlowski January 12th 07 03:36 AM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 

"Amateur" wrote in message
news:5fe082ba8f4ccea2a90b9298e0e42954@homerepairli ve.com...
What kind of preparation needs to be done before applying an oil-based
stain to a pine floor, other than sanding down to bare wood and using wood
filler where needed? How long would the time interval need to be between
the stain application and the first coat of polyurethane? Thanks.


Pine stains best with a sealer or spit coat of shellac on it. That wood
filler is probably going to stand out too once stained. you may want to try
it on a pine board first to be sure it won't look like crap.

Once stained, wait about 24 hours for the first coat of oil based poly.



Amateur January 12th 07 12:54 PM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 
What is a spit coat? What kind of sealer are you referring to other than
the polyurethane? Thanks.

RL

ng_reader January 12th 07 01:38 PM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 

"Amateur" wrote in message
news:a06c8ef2bf6ef59cef0f8d1ac787730a@homerepairli ve.com...
What is a spit coat? What kind of sealer are you referring to other than
the polyurethane? Thanks.

RL


spit coat or **** coat; a quick covering not meant to be a "top coat"

sealer, not sure. but, you can find cans with this label everywhere.



m Ransley January 12th 07 01:47 PM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 
Bix pre stain is probably shellac base. making your own is cheaper. Pre
stain it or it will look like crap. Pine does not stain well. Remember
pine darkens alot on its own over time and oil poly darkens over time.
Water base poly darkens little. Do tests on scrap and plan on a shade
darker in a year. Even no stain and water base poly will be 1-2 shades
darker in a few years. Oil poly yellows, water base does not.


[email protected] January 12th 07 04:48 PM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 

ng_reader wrote:
"Amateur" wrote in message
news:a06c8ef2bf6ef59cef0f8d1ac787730a@homerepairli ve.com...
What is a spit coat? What kind of sealer are you referring to other than
the polyurethane? Thanks.

RL


spit coat or **** coat; a quick covering not meant to be a "top coat"

sealer, not sure. but, you can find cans with this label everywhere.


Anybody know how to search on groups.google.com? Saves lots of
bandwidth.

(sanding) sealer, spit-coat, and such are intended to partially reduce
the permeability of the wood surface to stains, and to make it more
consistent. Besides raising and holding in place the disturbed fibers,
so they can be simply scraped or sanded off.

Again, google is your friend.

J


Edwin Pawlowski January 12th 07 08:20 PM

Oil-Based Stain and polyurethane on a pine floor
 

"Amateur" wrote in message
news:a06c8ef2bf6ef59cef0f8d1ac787730a@homerepairli ve.com...
What is a spit coat? What kind of sealer are you referring to other than
the polyurethane? Thanks.


Minwax, as well as most others, recommend a pre-stain on soft wood before
applying the stain. Essentially, it is mineral spirits. Keeps the stain
from getting blotchy. You can just paint on some mineral spirits, then
stain.

Spit coat is a thin coat of shellac to do the same thing.




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