The door is about 8 years old. It doesn't have any plastic wheels or
anything other than what looks like a tongue and groove between the door and
the frame. I removed it once and cleaned it and put in some teflon stuff. It
worked for about 6 months. Now it is really sticky and cleaning didn't help.

What should I do?
Are the doors usually a standard size? It's a tract home.
I'm cheap.

Thanks

if it doesn't roll on the bottom it may roll from the top. maybe spray
nine cleaner will help. if you liked a wet teflon spray try the dry
teflon spray it may attract less dirt. the door may make more sense
when you and a helper lift it up and remove it to service it.
search sliding door roller at:
www.hdsupply.com

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
The door is about 8 years old. It doesn't have any plastic wheels or
anything other than what looks like a tongue and groove between the door and
the frame. I removed it once and cleaned it and put in some teflon stuff. It
worked for about 6 months. Now it is really sticky and cleaning didn't help.

What should I do?
Are the doors usually a standard size? It's a tract home.
I'm cheap.

Thanks

I can't imagine a door without wheels or some version of slide
strip. I suspect that the lube that you did use attracted dust
and dirt and that this is causing the stickiness now. I imagine
the best recourse now would be a thorough cleaning.

Is there a brand name on the door? Contact or Google the
manufacturer for use and care suggestions. I have had good luck
on outdoor items that needed lube using anti seize like this:
http://www.meyerplastics.com/adhesives_seal_tape/anti-seize_comp_sht.htm


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"AKA gray asphalt" wrote in
message ...
The door is about 8 years old. It doesn't have any plastic
wheels or anything other than what looks like a tongue and
groove between the door and the frame. I removed it once and
cleaned it and put in some teflon stuff. It worked for about 6
months. Now it is really sticky and cleaning didn't help.

What should I do?
Are the doors usually a standard size? It's a tract home.
I'm cheap.

Thanks

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
The door is about 8 years old. It doesn't have any plastic wheels or
anything other than what looks like a tongue and groove between the door and
the frame. I removed it once and cleaned it and put in some teflon stuff. It
worked for about 6 months. Now it is really sticky and cleaning didn't help.

What should I do?
Are the doors usually a standard size? It's a tract home.
I'm cheap.

I'm retired and that can make ya cheap (and creative). If your
door is anything like ours its toast. There was a wheel and it wore
out. The alum base was (center hump the wheel rode on was pretty much
gone. My improvisation has lasted a year and is going strong. If I can
find our camera (granddaughter usually has it) I'll take a picture and
post it later today. (It's 7:00 AM in Calif) See if you can visualize
this:

I picked up a roller assembly that is normally used on heavy closet
doors. Its about 3" tall X 1 1/2" wide X 3/8" thick with a nylon wheel
(about 3/4" dia) at one end (protruding about 1/4 ") and an adjustable
screw for the wheel at the other. At the wheel end there are two
flanges with holes for screws and mounting. I drilled one hole through
the upper left corner and used three screws to fasten it to the outside,
closest to the door frame and of course, the bottom. The beauty is that
once in place, its adjustable. The nylon wheel is grooved to ride a
hump but in this set up it rides on the outside edges.

I would appreciate a picture. Did your invention fit in the existing track?
I guess I'm having difficulty picturing it.

"F.H." wrote in message
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AKA gray asphalt wrote:
The door is about 8 years old. It doesn't have any plastic wheels or
anything other than what looks like a tongue and groove between the door
and
the frame. I removed it once and cleaned it and put in some teflon stuff.
It
worked for about 6 months. Now it is really sticky and cleaning didn't
help.

What should I do?
Are the doors usually a standard size? It's a tract home.
I'm cheap.

I'm retired and that can make ya cheap (and creative). If your
door is anything like ours its toast. There was a wheel and it wore
out. The alum base was (center hump the wheel rode on was pretty much
gone. My improvisation has lasted a year and is going strong. If I can
find our camera (granddaughter usually has it) I'll take a picture and
post it later today. (It's 7:00 AM in Calif) See if you can visualize
this:

I picked up a roller assembly that is normally used on heavy closet
doors. Its about 3" tall X 1 1/2" wide X 3/8" thick with a nylon wheel
(about 3/4" dia) at one end (protruding about 1/4 ") and an adjustable
screw for the wheel at the other. At the wheel end there are two
flanges with holes for screws and mounting. I drilled one hole through
the upper left corner and used three screws to fasten it to the outside,
closest to the door frame and of course, the bottom. The beauty is that
once in place, its adjustable. The nylon wheel is grooved to ride a
hump but in this set up it rides on the outside edges.

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
I would appreciate a picture. Did your invention fit in the existing track?
I guess I'm having difficulty picturing it.

My original dimensions were guessed from memory. Here are the actual
measurements:

3 1/16" tall
1 7/8" wide
5/8 " thick

You should be able to find the piece at a hardware store or....? Three
pictures attached. Note I used three metal screws and drilled pilot
holes in the alum door frame, the top screw required drilling a hole
through the assembly. Also, note the 1/4 20 lock nut at the top to keep
the adjustment right. Beats buying a new door.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3134/sa400002qr0.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9610/sa400003sp0.jpg

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9508/sa400004sm8.jpg

That looks like something I might be able to do. I will let you know how it
goes. This is the most helpful thing I've ever gotten on this ng and I've
gotten a lot of good help.

"F.H." wrote in message
news:N3_nh.667$8B5.325@trnddc08...
AKA gray asphalt wrote:
I would appreciate a picture. Did your invention fit in the existing
track?
I guess I'm having difficulty picturing it.

My original dimensions were guessed from memory. Here are the actual
measurements:

3 1/16" tall
1 7/8" wide
5/8 " thick

You should be able to find the piece at a hardware store or....? Three
pictures attached. Note I used three metal screws and drilled pilot
holes in the alum door frame, the top screw required drilling a hole
through the assembly. Also, note the 1/4 20 lock nut at the top to keep
the adjustment right. Beats buying a new door.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3134/sa400002qr0.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9610/sa400003sp0.jpg

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9508/sa400004sm8.jpg

"RLM" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:53:00 -0800, AKA gray asphalt wrote:

The door is about 8 years old. It doesn't have any plastic wheels or
anything other than what looks like a tongue and groove between the door
and
the frame. I removed it once and cleaned it and put in some teflon stuff.
It
worked for about 6 months. Now it is really sticky and cleaning didn't
help.

What should I do?
Are the doors usually a standard size? It's a tract home.
I'm cheap.

Thanks

Every sliding glass door I've ever seen has rollers at the bottom.
Home Depot and Lowes have them. The aluminum track is the hardest part to
find. Seems every manufacturer specs their own design. You should have to
adjust the rollers so the door drops in order to lift it out of the track.
After the rollers are replaced you adjust the door to keep it from being
lifted out of the track. The adjuster is a screw located through a hole in
the bottom edge (side) of the door frame.

http://www.replacement-hardware.com/patio_doors.htm

http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/i...orrollers.shtm

http://www.ntbp.com/plasticbearing/index.htm

I've had the door out and there were no rollers. I had to bend the bottom
track and bend it back to get the door in and out. I know that isn't the way
it's supposed to be but a lot of things about this house are substandard.

That looks like a good fix for my door. Does it need a roller assembly on
each end? It seems the roller doesn't run in a groove, it needs to be
adjusted so that the original groove keeps the door in place while the
additional roller supports the weight? Can you give me a model number and
manufacturer?

"F.H." wrote in message
news:N3_nh.667$8B5.325@trnddc08...
AKA gray asphalt wrote:
I would appreciate a picture. Did your invention fit in the existing
track?
I guess I'm having difficulty picturing it.

My original dimensions were guessed from memory. Here are the actual
measurements:

3 1/16" tall
1 7/8" wide
5/8 " thick

You should be able to find the piece at a hardware store or....? Three
pictures attached. Note I used three metal screws and drilled pilot
holes in the alum door frame, the top screw required drilling a hole
through the assembly. Also, note the 1/4 20 lock nut at the top to keep
the adjustment right. Beats buying a new door.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3134/sa400002qr0.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9610/sa400003sp0.jpg

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9508/sa400004sm8.jpg

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
That looks like a good fix for my door. Does it need a roller assembly on
each end? It seems the roller doesn't run in a groove, it needs to be
adjusted so that the original groove keeps the door in place while the
additional roller supports the weight? Can you give me a model number and
manufacturer?

On my door the majority of wear took place nearest the door frame. It
still tracked but it dragged. You had to kinda lift it to get it to
move. And yes, it runs outside the groove and the door follows the
original groove. No problem.

The odd thing is that when I first got the idea I looked around and
didn't see anything that looked just right. Then I spotted some
discarded closet doors sticking out of a dumpster at my granddaughters
school and sure enough the wheel assembly I needed was right there for
the taking. There are no identifying marks on the assembly so you would
have to print the picture and take it to Home Depot or.......

Or....., email me your address and I'll mail one to you. (I've got two
more). I assume you are somewhere in the USA.

Frank

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
That looks like a good fix for my door. Does it need a roller assembly on
each end? It seems the roller doesn't run in a groove, it needs to be
adjusted so that the original groove keeps the door in place while the
additional roller supports the weight? Can you give me a model number and
manufacturer?

Kinda quiet over there, did you see my reply?

Frank

"F.H." wrote in message
...
AKA gray asphalt wrote:
That looks like a good fix for my door. Does it need a roller assembly on
each end? It seems the roller doesn't run in a groove, it needs to be
adjusted so that the original groove keeps the door in place while the
additional roller supports the weight? Can you give me a model number and
manufacturer?

Kinda quiet over there, did you see my reply?

Frank

Sorry for the delay. I'm taking your advice and taking a picture in to Home
Depot. I think I need two rollers, as both sides of the door seem to be
binding. I got a kind of serial number from the door but they aren't
manufactured anymore. Waiting for reply from them about possible fix. Can
you spare two rollers, if I can't find something? My problem is that the
door really, as strange as it seems, has no rollers at all, either top or
bottom.

AKA gray asphalt wrote:

Sorry for the delay. I'm taking your advice and taking a picture in to Home
Depot. I think I need two rollers, as both sides of the door seem to be
binding. I got a kind of serial number from the door but they aren't
manufactured anymore. Waiting for reply from them about possible fix. Can
you spare two rollers, if I can't find something?

LOL, you *are* lucky. I do have two.

"F.H." wrote in message
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AKA gray asphalt wrote:

Sorry for the delay. I'm taking your advice and taking a picture in to
Home
Depot. I think I need two rollers, as both sides of the door seem to be
binding. I got a kind of serial number from the door but they aren't
manufactured anymore. Waiting for reply from them about possible fix. Can
you spare two rollers, if I can't find something?

LOL, you *are* lucky. I do have two.

I'm probably going to be writing to you. The window company said they have a
lifetime guarantee but neither of the two local distributors have called
back for a couple of days.