I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

Take each 2x4 and stand it on end. The end on the floor is the bottom.
The HD people should have given you a copy of the instruction sheet that
is supposed to be handed out. BTW, if you need to shorten them, only the
bottom end should be cut off. Also are you sure you got "vertical" 2x4s,
the horizontals are different !

wrote:

I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

???????.....?????

Reed writes:

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.
Jerry

Take each 2x4 and stand it on end. The end on the floor is the
bottom. The HD people should have given you a copy of the instruction
sheet that is supposed to be handed out. BTW, if you need to shorten
them, only the bottom end should be cut off. Also are you sure you got
"vertical" 2x4s, the horizontals are different !

LOL... nicely done Reed.

I knew someone would find the right way to respond.


--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

Homey Despot puts a upc sticker on the bottom of every damn thing it
sells, that's the bottom.
wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

No, it's called trolling. You missed it.

--
Steve Barker



wrote in message
ups.com...
I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

" writes:

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

Nah, there isn't a difference. The original post was a bull**** troll.

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

doh.
I thought it had something to do with the grain of the wood, or the
bark side or soemthing.
show's how much I know about wood, I was starting to feel kinda bad
after helping a buddy with his basement and building a few non-load
walls myself, thought I had royally screwed up.

thx

Todd H. wrote:
" writes:

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

Nah, there isn't a difference. The original post was a bull****
troll.

That's what you say.

Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

LMAO...

a

A couple of roofers are up on a side of a roof nailing on shingles.

As one is working, he pulls a nail out of the bag, looks at it, and
hammers it in. Then he pulls another nail from the bag, looks at it,
and throws it away. He looks at the next one and hammers it in.

After a few minutes of this, the other roofer asks, "Why are you
throwing out all those nails?"

He replies, "They put the head on the wrong end!"

"You idiot, those are for the other side of the roof!"


---
That was one of my grandfather's favorite jokes.


-rev



Reed wrote:

Take each 2x4 and stand it on end. The end on the floor is the bottom.

"HeyBub" writes:
Todd H. wrote:
Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?
heh...
that's a good point. I suppose if you really wanted to know which was
the top, you'd look at growth ring spacing.

--
May no harm befall you,
flip
Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch?

Charlie Morgan wrote:

-- Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

- Yes! The African Baobob Tree
- http://www.botany.org/plantimages/Im...sp?IDN=09-050h

OK, so I go to this site and I see a tree with a large trunk on the
bottom and a lot of branches sticking up in the air. How is this
"upside down"?



On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:16:18 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Todd H. wrote:
" writes:

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

Nah, there isn't a difference. The original post was a bull****
troll.

That's what you say.

Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?


Yes! The African Baobob Tree

http://www.botany.org/plantimages/Im...sp?IDN=09-050h

CWM

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

Don't think much of their nails either. Every other one or so, that I pick
up has the head on the wrong end. Fortunate for me my carpenter uncle
informed me that those odd nails are for the other side of the house.
Tommy

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

It works just like books on a shelf, tilt your head to the right and if
the printing down the edge reads the right way, then you have the stud
right side up. That is if you are in the northern hemisphere. If you
are in the southern hemisphere then it is the other way around.

Ken

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

It works just like books on a shelf, tilt your head to the right and if
the printing down the edge reads the right way, then you have the stud
right side up. That is if you are in the northern hemisphere. If you
are in the southern hemisphere then it is the other way around.

Ken

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:08:04 GMT, Reed wrote:

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

Take each 2x4 and stand it on end. The end on the floor is the bottom.

If you're still not sure, hold the 2x4 horizontally with one hand at
what you think is the middle (you may want to hold a nail gun in the
other hand). Whichever end hits the floor first is the bottom.

The HD people should have given you a copy of the instruction sheet that
is supposed to be handed out. BTW, if you need to shorten them, only the
bottom end should be cut off. Also are you sure you got "vertical" 2x4s,
the horizontals are different !

Some of those are mislabeled, and are actually "diagonal" 2x4s. These
are more likely to be warped since many Home Depot employees don't
know how to store diagonal 2x4s properly.

In article , Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 5 Jan 2007 09:25:36 -0800, "DerbyDad03"
wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:

-- Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

- Yes! The African Baobob Tree
- http://www.botany.org/plantimages/Im...sp?IDN=09-050h

OK, so I go to this site and I see a tree with a large trunk on the
bottom and a lot of branches sticking up in the air. How is this
"upside down"?


Doesn't it look like a tree with the root structure reaching skyward?

No. It looks like a tree with a large trunk on the bottom, and a lot of
branches sticking up into the air.

Here's what it looks like in leaf:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Baobabtre_b3599.jpg

The folks in Africa seem to think so.

Doesn't make it so.

I guess you need to do a little
more research on the Baobob tree. It's really quite fascinating.

*He* needs to do more research? Or *you* need to?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:11:31 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

wrote:

I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

???????.....?????

3F 3F 3F 3F 3F 3F 3F 2E 2E 2E 2E 2E 3F 3F 3F 3F 3F

On 05 Jan 2007 09:11:52 -0600, (Todd H.) wrote:

" writes:

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

Nah, there isn't a difference. The original post was a bull**** troll.

Bull**** does have a bottom. I can see the difference every time I
walk around the pasture.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
Charlie Morgan wrote:

-- Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

- Yes! The African Baobob Tree
- http://www.botany.org/plantimages/Im...sp?IDN=09-050h

OK, so I go to this site and I see a tree with a large trunk on the
bottom and a lot of branches sticking up in the air. How is this
"upside down"?




Well, the idiots on the site have the image upside down...

a

http://www.tourismpenang.gov.my/articlePrint.cfm?id=27
explains a bit more.

--
May no harm befall you,
flip
Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch?
In my email replace SeeEmmYou.EeeDeeYou with CMU.EDU

Ken wrote:

wrote:

I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry


It works just like books on a shelf, tilt your head to the right and if
the printing down the edge reads the right way, then you have the stud
right side up. That is if you are in the northern hemisphere. If you
are in the southern hemisphere then it is the other way around.

Ken


And just in case you didn't know why books are made that way.....

It's so when a book is lying on a table with its front cover up you can
read that printing running down the spine without having to stand on
your head.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry


The big end is the top. HTH :-)

Bob

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:36:37 -0600,
wrote:

I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

You just have to remember how you pulled them from the rack.
--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

Trust me, the last thing I need to research is a tree in Africa. I am
constantly expanding my horizons in much more fruitful ways.

Look, it's just a tree with a large trunk and skinny branches. It does
not grow upside down no matter legend says.

Hey wait, maybe you're right. I think I'll research how many 2 x 4's I
can get out that large trunk. Anybody got a really big chainsaw?

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:18:46 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 5 Jan 2007 09:25:36 -0800, "DerbyDad03"
wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:

-- Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

- Yes! The African Baobob Tree
- http://www.botany.org/plantimages/Im...sp?IDN=09-050h

OK, so I go to this site and I see a tree with a large trunk on the
bottom and a lot of branches sticking up in the air. How is this
"upside down"?


Doesn't it look like a tree with the root structure reaching skyward?

No. It looks like a tree with a large trunk on the bottom, and a lot of
branches sticking up into the air.

Here's what it looks like in leaf:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Baobabtre_b3599.jpg

The folks in Africa seem to think so.

Doesn't make it so.

I guess you need to do a little
more research on the Baobob tree. It's really quite fascinating.

*He* needs to do more research? Or *you* need to?

He needs to. There is a LOT to know about Baobob trees. I guess maybe
you could use a little horizon expansion as well. :')

CWM

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:18:27 -0600, Sam E
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:08:04 GMT, Reed wrote:

wrote:
I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

Take each 2x4 and stand it on end. The end on the floor is the bottom.

If you're still not sure, hold the 2x4 horizontally with one hand at
what you think is the middle (you may want to hold a nail gun in the
other hand). Whichever end hits the floor first is the bottom.

The HD people should have given you a copy of the instruction sheet that
is supposed to be handed out. BTW, if you need to shorten them, only the
bottom end should be cut off. Also are you sure you got "vertical" 2x4s,
the horizontals are different !

Some of those are mislabeled, and are actually "diagonal" 2x4s. These
are more likely to be warped since many Home Depot employees don't
know how to store diagonal 2x4s properly.

They take up so much more space than the others.

wrote:

I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

You're making the rash assumption that these are "vertical" 2x4s, when
in fact they could be horizontals, which are only good for top and
bottom plates.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:13:04 GMT, "Bob (but not THAT Bob)"
wrote:

wrote:

I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
lumber store.

Jerry

You're making the rash assumption that these are "vertical" 2x4s, when
in fact they could be horizontals, which are only good for top and
bottom plates.

I can work with octagonal, more difficult than any so far.......even
more difficult to find.






--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:16:18 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Todd H. wrote:
" writes:

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

Nah, there isn't a difference. The original post was a bull****
troll.

That's what you say.

Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?


Exactly, the end of the 2x4 that was closest to the tree roots would
be the bottom.

Then again, horizontal 2x4s such as the top and bottom plates, should
be labeled "horizontal use only".

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Todd H. wrote:
" writes:

I didn't know there was a difference?
Is it because of the grain or soemthing?

Nah, there isn't a difference. The original post was a bull****
troll.

That's what you say.

Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

Half way down this page are trees potted upside down... some knucklehead
calls it art.

http://www.massmoca.org/visual_arts/visual_arts.html

Happy modeming,
Bill

DerbyDad03 wrote:
Trust me, the last thing I need to research is a tree in Africa. I am
constantly expanding my horizons in much more fruitful ways.

Look, it's just a tree with a large trunk and skinny branches. It does
not grow upside down no matter legend says.

But it _is_ upside down. It is south of the equator after all.

Harry K

Berkshire Bill wrote:

That's what you say.

Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

Half way down this page are trees potted upside down... some
knucklehead calls it art.

http://www.massmoca.org/visual_arts/visual_arts.html


But he raises an interesting point. Since half of a tree (roughly) is
underground, when foresters harvest trees to make lumber, are they not
leaving half the wood behind? Isn't this a significant waste of resources?

I could envision a whole new industry: 2x4s made from tree roots would come
already bent and twisted - no need for all that labor to do it by hand.

The mind reels at the possibilities.

On 6 Jan 2007 08:12:00 -0800, "Harry K"
wrote:


DerbyDad03 wrote:
Trust me, the last thing I need to research is a tree in Africa. I am
constantly expanding my horizons in much more fruitful ways.

Look, it's just a tree with a large trunk and skinny branches. It does
not grow upside down no matter legend says.

But it _is_ upside down. It is south of the equator after all.


It's "down" that's upside-down.

"down" is the local direction that things move in when unsupported.

Harry K

BTW, now I may hear about the nonexistent X-axis reversal with a
mirror.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:33:03 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Berkshire Bill wrote:

That's what you say.

Ever seen a tree growing upside-down?

Half way down this page are trees potted upside down... some
knucklehead calls it art.

http://www.massmoca.org/visual_arts/visual_arts.html


But he raises an interesting point. Since half of a tree (roughly) is
underground, when foresters harvest trees to make lumber, are they not
leaving half the wood behind? Isn't this a significant waste of resources?


They're into recycling. The other half of the tree eventually becomes
part of new trees.

I could envision a whole new industry: 2x4s made from tree roots would come
already bent and twisted - no need for all that labor to do it by hand.


If HD sells those, do any become unwarped in storage?

(considering the non-zero probability of fixing a malfunctioning TV
set by throwing it on a concrete floor)

The mind reels at the possibilities.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov

the answer is simple
whichever side is facing up
is the top
at HD the tops are the huge warps that are at their highest point.


wrote in message
...
|I just bought a bunch of 2x4s to build a partition wall in the
| basement around our washer and dryer. I was ready to start building
| the wall when I realized that Home Depot forgot to label the 2x4s so I
| know which end is the top and which is the bottom. It figures Home
| Depot would forget to put the "top" arrow on them. I thought I'd save
| a few bucks going to Home Depot, but next time I'll go to a real
| lumber store.
|
| Jerry

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 08:12:00 -0800, "Harry K"
wrote:


DerbyDad03 wrote:
Trust me, the last thing I need to research is a tree in Africa. I am
constantly expanding my horizons in much more fruitful ways.

Look, it's just a tree with a large trunk and skinny branches. It does
not grow upside down no matter legend says.

But it _is_ upside down. It is south of the equator after all.


It's "down" that's upside-down.

"down" is the local direction that things move in when unsupported.

Harry K

BTW, now I may hear about the nonexistent X-axis reversal with a
mirror.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov

Nonexistent? You don't see your left hand where the right should be in
a mirror?

Harry K

In article .com,
says...

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 08:12:00 -0800, "Harry K"
wrote:


DerbyDad03 wrote:
Trust me, the last thing I need to research is a tree in Africa. I am
constantly expanding my horizons in much more fruitful ways.

Look, it's just a tree with a large trunk and skinny branches. It does
not grow upside down no matter legend says.

But it _is_ upside down. It is south of the equator after all.


It's "down" that's upside-down.

"down" is the local direction that things move in when unsupported.

Harry K

BTW, now I may hear about the nonexistent X-axis reversal with a
mirror.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov

Nonexistent? You don't see your left hand where the right should be in
a mirror?

It's not an x-axis reversal, rather a z-axis (front to back)
reversal.

--
Keith

krw wrote:
- It's not an x-axis reversal, rather a z-axis (front to back)
reversal.

Wait - I'm confused. If I have my back to the mirror how could I see my
front?


krw wrote:
In article .com,
says...

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 08:12:00 -0800, "Harry K"
wrote:


DerbyDad03 wrote:
Trust me, the last thing I need to research is a tree in Africa. I am
constantly expanding my horizons in much more fruitful ways.

Look, it's just a tree with a large trunk and skinny branches. It does
not grow upside down no matter legend says.

But it _is_ upside down. It is south of the equator after all.


It's "down" that's upside-down.

"down" is the local direction that things move in when unsupported.

Harry K

BTW, now I may hear about the nonexistent X-axis reversal with a
mirror.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov

Nonexistent? You don't see your left hand where the right should be in
a mirror?

It's not an x-axis reversal, rather a z-axis (front to back)
reversal.

--
Keith