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Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac? If so, I'd like to know how it has
worked for you. I'm trying to find a way to stop some serious erosion
of a stream bed that's caused (of course) by the upstream parking lots
that the local big-time developers have laid out.

Thanks.

Lynn Willis
Indianpolis


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Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac? If so, I'd like to know how it has
worked for you. I'm trying to find a way to stop some serious erosion
of a stream bed that's caused (of course) by the upstream parking lots
that the local big-time developers have laid out.

Thanks.

Lynn Willis
Indianpolis



The website for the company that makes Soiltac is
www.soiltac.com
(you gotta love Google! :) I'm also interested in this product as I
have erosion behind a riverwall, requiring a lot of digging and lost of
grass going into the winter/spring storm season here in Alabama, and I
really appreciate Lynn's question, which brought this product to our
attention.

It appears that you can buy Soiltac in everything from a small
sample size to a tanker full!

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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:39:17 -0800, Larry Caldwell wrote:

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Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac? If so, I'd like to know how it has
worked for you. I'm trying to find a way to stop some serious erosion
of a stream bed that's caused (of course) by the upstream parking lots
that the local big-time developers have laid out.


Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control. That said,
here the main source of excess runoff is logging rather than development.
Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.

Tackifiers are used to hold mulch on slopes to protect them from
raindrops. If you are looking at stream bed erosion, your best shot is
to place some boulders in the stream to slow the water velocity. If you
are getting stream bank erosion, you might think about revetments,
riffles, or vegetation. Willow plug planted 12" O/C will only take a
couple of years to knit a bank together.

Call your local soil conservation office. It's listed in the federal
part of the blue pages, but administered through your county.



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Ann wrote:

[....]
Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]

Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.


this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]
Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.


this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.
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Jim wrote:
Ann wrote:

[....]
Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]

Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.


this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]
Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.


this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.


Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.



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Sheldon wrote:
Jim wrote:

Ann wrote:

[....]

Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?


[....]

Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.


this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]

Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.


this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.



Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.


Jim's religion seems to know no bounds.

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unsettled wrote:

Sheldon wrote:
Jim wrote:
Ann wrote:

[....]

Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]

Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.

this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]

Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.

this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.



Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.


yankee guy-type government has laws and procedures for the purpose
of allowing immigration in a prescribed and controlled manner. yet
we have a term describing some 12 million persons residing within
the boundaries of yankee land. can you say, illegal immigrate?
can you also say unenforced laws and procedures?


Jim's religion seems to know no bounds.


Jim connects himself with no religion. just thought you might
enjoy being confused by that fact.
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Jim wrote:
unsettled wrote:


Sheldon wrote:

Jim wrote:

Ann wrote:

[....]


Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]


Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.

this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]


Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.

this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.


Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.



yankee guy-type government has laws and procedures for the purpose
of allowing immigration in a prescribed and controlled manner. yet
we have a term describing some 12 million persons residing within
the boundaries of yankee land. can you say, illegal immigrate?
can you also say unenforced laws and procedures?


Jim's religion seems to know no bounds.



Jim connects himself with no religion. just thought you might
enjoy being confused by that fact.


Here's part of one of those religions of yours, in
your own words: "this part shows the reality of living
under a yankee government."

You don't even know what "religion" is pal.

"Sociologists and anthropologists see religion as an
abstract set of ideas, values, or experiences developed
as part of a cultural matrix. Primitive religion was
indistinguishable from the sociocultural acts where
custom and ritual defined an emotional reality."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

You're a primitive all right.
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unsettled wrote:

Jim wrote:
unsettled wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
Jim wrote:
Ann wrote:

[....]


Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]


Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.

this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]


Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.

this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.


Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.



yankee guy-type government has laws and procedures for the purpose
of allowing immigration in a prescribed and controlled manner. yet
we have a term describing some 12 million persons residing within
the boundaries of yankee land. can you say, illegal immigrate?
can you also say unenforced laws and procedures?


Jim's religion seems to know no bounds.



Jim connects himself with no religion. just thought you might
enjoy being confused by that fact.


Here's part of one of those religions of yours, in
your own words: "this part shows the reality of living
under a yankee government."

You don't even know what "religion" is pal.


first I'm not your pal.

religion is that which man has defined. religion is what
man be they sociologists or anthropologists have realized
to be traditions of man taught by man in order to give man
power over men. that cultural matrix is exactly the order
of man having power over man by teaching and spreading lies
and half truths playing on the emotional reality of the
confused lost and scared who seek safety or the protection
from that which they fear.


"Sociologists and anthropologists see religion as an
abstract set of ideas, values, or experiences developed
as part of a cultural matrix. Primitive religion was
indistinguishable from the sociocultural acts where
custom and ritual defined an emotional reality."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

You're a primitive all right.


yes, primitive enough to keep a great distance between myself
and the word religion when used by man so as to further the
agenda of man.

but don't worry. I don't expect you or any other yankee culture
worshiper to even begin to understand the things which last forever
and really matter.

now amuse me by telling me about your sports-guy hero and the
other things of your materialist world you adore.


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Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:


Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:

Sheldon wrote:

Jim wrote:

Ann wrote:

[....]



Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]



Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.

this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]



Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.

this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.


Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.


yankee guy-type government has laws and procedures for the purpose
of allowing immigration in a prescribed and controlled manner. yet
we have a term describing some 12 million persons residing within
the boundaries of yankee land. can you say, illegal immigrate?
can you also say unenforced laws and procedures?



Jim's religion seems to know no bounds.


Jim connects himself with no religion. just thought you might
enjoy being confused by that fact.


Here's part of one of those religions of yours, in
your own words: "this part shows the reality of living
under a yankee government."

You don't even know what "religion" is pal.



first I'm not your pal.


You also don't recognize sarcasm unless it is part
of your narrowly construed definition, pal.

religion is that which man has defined. religion is what
man be they sociologists or anthropologists have realized
to be traditions of man taught by man in order to give man
power over men.


Precisely as you're practicing it right here, pal.

that cultural matrix is exactly the order
of man having power over man by teaching and spreading lies
and half truths playing on the emotional reality of the
confused lost and scared who seek safety or the protection
from that which they fear.


Boy you're really good at doing precisely what you make
believe you're against, pal.

"Sociologists and anthropologists see religion as an
abstract set of ideas, values, or experiences developed
as part of a cultural matrix. Primitive religion was
indistinguishable from the sociocultural acts where
custom and ritual defined an emotional reality."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion


You're a primitive all right.


yes, primitive enough to keep a great distance between myself
and the word religion when used by man so as to further the
agenda of man.


Right, your religions are so much better than anyone else's.

LMAO

but don't worry. I don't expect you or any other yankee culture
worshiper to even begin to understand the things which last forever
and really matter.


Your religions will all die with you, pal.

now amuse me by telling me about your sports-guy hero and the
other things of your materialist world you adore.


You're barking up the wrong tree, pal. And you're barking mad
too, pal. Anyway, you're already amusing yourself by pretending
to be better than everyone else, pal.

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unsettled wrote:

Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:


Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:

Sheldon wrote:

Jim wrote:

Ann wrote:

[....]



Has anyone in these groups used or become familiar with a soil erosion
control product called Soiltac?

[....]



Depending on where you live and whether any existing regulations are
enforced, you may or may not be allowed to do work in the stream bed
without a permit. Also, the developers should have been required to submit
a storm water management plan and/or one for sediment control.

this part implies of how a yankee government is to protect.

[....]



Lots of luck getting the regulations enforced when the runoff is doing
damage on your property.

this part shows the reality of living under a yankee government.


Nonsense. Riparian laws exist worldwide, in fact they're more strictly
enforced most other places. The US is fairly lenient and and rather
lax about water course rights... in some parts of the world you
interfere with a stream so small you can **** across it and your
neighbors will stretch your neck with no repercussions whatsoever.


yankee guy-type government has laws and procedures for the purpose
of allowing immigration in a prescribed and controlled manner. yet
we have a term describing some 12 million persons residing within
the boundaries of yankee land. can you say, illegal immigrate?
can you also say unenforced laws and procedures?



Jim's religion seems to know no bounds.


Jim connects himself with no religion. just thought you might
enjoy being confused by that fact.

Here's part of one of those religions of yours, in
your own words: "this part shows the reality of living
under a yankee government."

You don't even know what "religion" is pal.



first I'm not your pal.


You also don't recognize sarcasm unless it is part
of your narrowly construed definition, pal.

religion is that which man has defined. religion is what
man be they sociologists or anthropologists have realized
to be traditions of man taught by man in order to give man
power over men.


Precisely as you're practicing it right here, pal.

that cultural matrix is exactly the order
of man having power over man by teaching and spreading lies
and half truths playing on the emotional reality of the
confused lost and scared who seek safety or the protection
from that which they fear.


Boy you're really good at doing precisely what you make
believe you're against, pal.

"Sociologists and anthropologists see religion as an
abstract set of ideas, values, or experiences developed
as part of a cultural matrix. Primitive religion was
indistinguishable from the sociocultural acts where
custom and ritual defined an emotional reality."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion


You're a primitive all right.


yes, primitive enough to keep a great distance between myself
and the word religion when used by man so as to further the
agenda of man.


Right, your religions are so much better than anyone else's.

LMAO

but don't worry. I don't expect you or any other yankee culture
worshiper to even begin to understand the things which last forever
and really matter.


Your religions will all die with you, pal.

now amuse me by telling me about your sports-guy hero and the
other things of your materialist world you adore.


You're barking up the wrong tree, pal. And you're barking mad
too, pal. Anyway, you're already amusing yourself by pretending
to be better than everyone else, pal.


your usage of the term pal only shows you to be another
rude sarcastic arrogant yankee guy-type.

what you think you think is yours however what you
think I know you will never understand.
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Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:


You're barking up the wrong tree, pal. And you're barking mad
too, pal. Anyway, you're already amusing yourself by pretending
to be better than everyone else, pal.


your usage of the term pal only shows you to be another
rude sarcastic arrogant yankee guy-type.


According to your religion, yes. Reality, however,
is otherwise, pal.

what you think you think is yours


Golly gee, you finally got ONE thing right, pal.

Cogito ergo sum!

however what you
think I know you will never understand.


Understand? What, in the internal context of your
mental illness. I pray to God never. I notice that
you're still pretending to be better than everyone
else, but fact is you're just an ordinary sinner
like all the rest of us, pal!
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Jim wrote:

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I notice that
you're still pretending to be better than everyone
else,


in your imagination.

but fact is you're just an ordinary sinner
like all the rest of us, pal!


oh I'm a sinner that's a most definite fact.
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Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:


Jim wrote:


[....]


I notice that
you're still pretending to be better than everyone
else,


in your imagination.


but fact is you're just an ordinary sinner
like all the rest of us, pal!


oh I'm a sinner that's a most definite fact.


Your mission for the week is to contemplate how the
deadly sin of pride affects your life and your
postings to misc.rural.

You might start he

http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/pride.html

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unsettled wrote:

Jim wrote:
unsettled wrote:
Jim:


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I notice that
you're still pretending to be better than everyone
else,


in your imagination.


but fact is you're just an ordinary sinner
like all the rest of us, pal!


oh I'm a sinner that's a most definite fact.


Your mission for the week is to contemplate how the
deadly sin of pride affects your life and your
postings to misc.rural.

You might start he

http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/pride.html


yea I read and first paragraph on the page. speaks
of giving credit where credit is due.

now you take a look at something on this page and
note the top of the page where thanks is given.
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...tr-repair.html

now right click on the black blank space and select [view info].
note the words "last modified". looks like something done awhile
ago.

now let me ask you about pride, your pride? what compelled you
to write the following items?

"He apparently has a stutter to go along with his brain farts."
"You're a primitive all right."

by pride comes contention! do you, like al and jon seek quarrels
and disputes with me by making direct reference to me as being less
than you?

just asking.
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Jim wrote:
unsettled wrote:


Jim wrote:

unsettled wrote:

Jim:


[....]


I notice that
you're still pretending to be better than everyone
else,


in your imagination.


but fact is you're just an ordinary sinner
like all the rest of us, pal!


oh I'm a sinner that's a most definite fact.


Your mission for the week is to contemplate how the
deadly sin of pride affects your life and your
postings to misc.rural.

You might start he

http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/pride.html



yea I read and first paragraph on the page. speaks
of giving credit where credit is due.


No it doesn't! It addresses precisely what you're
getting into in this response of yours. Giving
credit to God for your abilities does *nothing*
to offset your preaching against yankees who are
your fellow humans and just as valuable in God's
eyes as you are.

now you take a look at something on this page and
note the top of the page where thanks is given.
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...tr-repair.html


now right click on the black blank space and select [view info].
note the words "last modified". looks like something done awhile
ago.


Big deal. To acknowledge this without living the life demanded
by biblical teachings is to live a lie of duplicity, and in
your case, pride.

now let me ask you about pride, your pride? what compelled you
to write the following items?


We're talking about your activity.

"He apparently has a stutter to go along with his brain farts."
"You're a primitive all right."


Put them back in context to understand. They're criticisms
of your behavior in the discussions here. They have not
sought to condemn you without any capacity for improvement
or redemption as you constantly do to "yankees".

by pride comes contention!


That's what brought this on.

do you, like al and jon seek quarrels
and disputes with me by making direct reference to me as being less
than you?


I am talking about your behavior in this newsgroup, and
the way you seek to diminish others while repetitively
placing yourself in a superior position. Do you think you're
closer to God than a "Yankee"? You sure write as though you
believe that.

Glad I have your attention.

just asking.


LOL


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