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[email protected] January 1st 07 07:55 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
I only see this for exposed wiring. I want to put it in the wall like
regular not exposed wiring. Presumably I would need some sort of
adapter and the appropriate walplate. Am I missing something or is
this just not done? I really don't want to try to cram a GFCi into a
regular sized box.


Pete C. January 1st 07 08:09 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
wrote:

I only see this for exposed wiring. I want to put it in the wall like
regular not exposed wiring. Presumably I would need some sort of
adapter and the appropriate walplate. Am I missing something or is
this just not done? I really don't want to try to cram a GFCi into a
regular sized box.


Use a single width box of an appropriate depth and it will fit just
fine. Boxes are not all the same depth.

Pete C.

RBM January 1st 07 08:28 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
I'm assuming that what you have, is a 4 inch square box (1900) and the GFCI
is mounted to the cover which has two screws attaching it to the box. You
can get 1900 boxes with a side bracket to attach to the side of a stud,
flush with the front of the stud, you then attach a single gang to 1900
reducing cover for 1/2 inch thickness sheetrock or whatever thickness you
need, then the GFCI screws to that adapter, and a standard flush cover goes
on top


wrote in message
oups.com...
I only see this for exposed wiring. I want to put it in the wall like
regular not exposed wiring. Presumably I would need some sort of
adapter and the appropriate walplate. Am I missing something or is
this just not done? I really don't want to try to cram a GFCi into a
regular sized box.




Terry January 1st 07 11:33 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
On 1 Jan 2007 11:55:19 -0800, wrote:

I only see this for exposed wiring. I want to put it in the wall like
regular not exposed wiring. Presumably I would need some sort of
adapter and the appropriate walplate. Am I missing something or is
this just not done? I really don't want to try to cram a GFCi into a
regular sized box.


You don't really need a double size opening. The hookup you are
probably talking about is a 4 inch square box.

If you are putting a box in an existing wall you need to just get a
deep single gang cut in box.

If it is going to be put in the wall before the sheet rock you can get
a single gang deep switch box.

Any setup you pick will have the same size opening for one device.

[email protected] January 2nd 07 02:48 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
OK, I think I understand what you are saying... Go deep instead of
wide.

It's for an existing wall, so I'd need a deep old work box. I don't
see them in the stores, but I'll look at Grainger and other better
places instead of HD and Lowes if that's what you are suggesting.


[email protected] January 2nd 07 03:05 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 

I'm assuming that what you have, is a 4 inch square box (1900) and the GFCI
is mounted to the cover which has two screws attaching it to the box. You
can get 1900 boxes with a side bracket to attach to the side of a stud,
flush with the front of the stud, you then attach a single gang to 1900
reducing cover for 1/2 inch thickness sheetrock or whatever thickness you
need, then the GFCI screws to that adapter, and a standard flush cover goes
on top



Am I missing something here? The above description soulds like the
setup for exposed wiring unless there is something available for
regular non exposed wiring to center a gfi, just like there is for
exposed wiring. What I have are some single gang old work boxes that
are gangable to make into a double wide configuration. I believe that
they are the same as this:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611711015


Bud-- January 2nd 07 04:31 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
wrote:
I'm assuming that what you have, is a 4 inch square box (1900) and the GFCI
is mounted to the cover which has two screws attaching it to the box. You
can get 1900 boxes with a side bracket to attach to the side of a stud,
flush with the front of the stud, you then attach a single gang to 1900
reducing cover for 1/2 inch thickness sheetrock or whatever thickness you
need, then the GFCI screws to that adapter, and a standard flush cover goes
on top




Am I missing something here? The above description soulds like the
setup for exposed wiring unless there is something available for
regular non exposed wiring to center a gfi, just like there is for
exposed wiring. What I have are some single gang old work boxes that
are gangable to make into a double wide configuration. I believe that
they are the same as this:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611711015


RBM assumed you were describing a 4" square box as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611602666
(this one has the side mounting bracket he described) with a raised
cover as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1613553765
which seemed to fit your description. He suggested a single gang mudring
for a concealed 4" square box as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611602621
A 4" square box gives you a lot of volume.

You should be able to find a 3 1/2" deep switch box.

If you ganged 2 switchboxes you could put the GFCI on one side and get a
plate that has the GFCI opening on one side, blank on the other. (You
can't center the GFCI).

--
bud--

[email protected] January 2nd 07 04:48 PM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 
"RBM assumed you were describing a 4" square box as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...shtml?ItemId=1...

(this one has the side mounting bracket he described) with a raised
cover as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...shtml?ItemId=1...

which seemed to fit your description. He suggested a single gang
mudring
for a concealed 4" square box as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...shtml?ItemId=1...

A 4" square box gives you a lot of volume. "


That's what I have in my basement, where I use surface mount wiring
components. That would look terrible inside my bathroom wall. I was
asking fi there is a way to center it and have it completey inside the
wall.


C & E January 3rd 07 02:20 AM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
OK, I think I understand what you are saying... Go deep instead of
wide.

It's for an existing wall, so I'd need a deep old work box. I don't
see them in the stores, but I'll look at Grainger and other better
places instead of HD and Lowes if that's what you are suggesting.


Go to an electrical supply store - the suppliers of hour local electrical
contractors. They have or can get anything and it won't cost you the
shipping that you incur with online shopping.



Don Young January 3rd 07 02:50 AM

GFCI centered in a double wide box, is this possible?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
"RBM assumed you were describing a 4" square box as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...shtml?ItemId=1...

(this one has the side mounting bracket he described) with a raised
cover as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...shtml?ItemId=1...

which seemed to fit your description. He suggested a single gang
mudring
for a concealed 4" square box as:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...shtml?ItemId=1...

A 4" square box gives you a lot of volume. "


That's what I have in my basement, where I use surface mount wiring
components. That would look terrible inside my bathroom wall. I was
asking fi there is a way to center it and have it completey inside the
wall.

Square boxes and "plaster rings" are a common standard method of installing
both exposed surface mount and concealed wiring when conduit is used. When
installed inside the walls only the outer face of the plaster ring is at the
surface and that is covered by the standard installed device and cover.
Finished appearance is no different from using cable and common outlet
boxes. When surface mounted a different type of box cover can be used with
the devices being secured by the cover only.

Don Young




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