Electric breaker up-grade
I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system
that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? |
Electric breaker up-grade
In article om, "rj92392" wrote:
I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? No offense intended, but you probably can't. Not yet, anyway. It doesn't sound like you have a lot of experience working with residential electrical systems, and what you're describing is a pretty major project for someone who's just getting started. Your first step, IMO, should be a visit to the library to get a few books on residential electrical wiring. This will help you to understand the scope of the problems here. Your next step then should probably be to get estimates from several professional electricians. This really is a significant project, that is very likely beyond anyone with as little experience with electrical systems as it appears that you have. Again, no offense is intended here -- electricity is dangerous stuff, and careless or unknowledgeable use of it can KILL. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
Electric breaker up-grade
rj92392 wrote: I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem You needc a main service upgrade to 200 amps with new service drop. Plus how old is your home? are all outlets 3 prong grounded? Welcome to home ownershiop call somew electricians get at least 3 estimates. Your looking at several thousand minimum. |
Electric breaker up-grade
Doug Miller wrote: In article om, "rj92392" wrote: I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be upgraded so that the lights don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? No offense intended, but you probably can't. Not yet, anyway. It doesn't sound like you have a lot of experience working with residential electrical systems, and what you're describing is a pretty major project for someone who's just getting started. Your first step, IMO, should be a visit to the library to get a few books on residential electrical wiring. This will help you to understand the scope of the problems here. Your next step then should probably be to get estimates from several professional electricians. This really is a significant project, that is very likely beyond anyone with as little experience with electrical systems as it appears that you have. Again, no offense is intended here -- electricity is dangerous stuff, and careless or unknowledgeable use of it can KILL. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. Agree. Also safety and insurance aspects! A very cheap immediate safety measure could be some battery powered smoke alarms (only a few bucks). Stick a few of those around, often quite sensitive! I've had them go off when soldering or when a circular saw blade slightly burned some wood or when some small amount of fat burned on the kitchen stove. But at least that confirmed they were working! Overloaded wiring would probably do the same and if so immediately throw off all power and vacate house. |
Electric breaker up-grade
rj92392 wrote: I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? Have you tried plugging the heaters into another outlet? Map out ALL the outlets in the house. Find which outlets go to which breaker. Then make sure the heaters are not plugged into outlets which share the same breaker. This should help you avoid tripping the breaker. Flickering lights appear to be another issue. Electrical overloading info and circuit mapping info he http://www.rd.com/content/openConten...ontentId=18193 -Felder |
Electric breaker up-grade
Regardless of the age of the circuit breakers, or to some degree, the size
of the service, you need better distribution, which is more circuits run from the service to the various locations around the house. This is not to say that you don't need a service increase, or new panel, just that those things alone will not solve the problem, as you describe it "rj92392" wrote in message news:c014a8e4a240f5c1afc7b3704460094e@homerepairli ve.com... I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? |
Electric breaker up-grade
rj92392 wrote: I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? Felder and RBM have hit the nail dead-on here--the problem as described _won't_ be solved by simply a new breaker box, even w/ higher total service. You have overloaded circuits as is, and only either adding circuits or upgrading their ampacity (which requires larger wiring, not just a breaker) or balancing the existing loads across existing circuits will accomplish. The dimming of lights on switching transients is another symptom of the overloaded (or nearly so) conditions. One solution, assuming the house has it, is to go to the central heating system as opposed to the space heaters. |
Electric breaker up-grade
Felder and RBM have hit the nail dead-on here--the problem as described _won't_ be solved by simply a new breaker box, even w/ higher total service. You have overloaded circuits as is, and only either adding circuits or upgrading their ampacity (which requires larger wiring, not just a breaker) or balancing the existing loads across existing circuits will accomplish. Its pretty rare a agerd breaker box will allow enough upgrade space to fix this overload trouble. On lights dimming certain fluroscents can do this under normal operating voltages, cheap fixtures the cause |
Electric breaker up-grade
"rj92392" wrote in message news:c014a8e4a240f5c1afc7b3704460094e@homerepairli ve.com... I recently moved into a older home which has an old house breaker system that does not allow the house to properly operate its electric power. I need to know can the house breaker system can be ugraded so that the ligths don't blink when another appliance is turned Like a refrigerator kicks on and the lights dims for a second or two? You could put lights and outlets on different circuits or increase the wire size. If you have low voltage at the service panel, ask your electrical utility company if service voltage could be increased. on or an electric heater is on and another heater is turned on in another room at the same time and the breaker switch will not kick to the off position? How can I fix this problem? First check if those two heaters are on the same circuit? If it is than check if the circuit is really overloaded and if you have an over sized or defective breaker. |
Electric breaker up-grade
"One solution, assuming the house has it, is to go to the central
heating system as opposed to the space heaters. " Best advice so far. |
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