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[email protected] December 23rd 06 09:40 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
We have discovered that we have Iron reducing bacteria in our new well.
We have been living in our new house for about 5 months and always had
a funny smell in the cold water. A test from a lab confirmed that it
was iron reducing bacteria and in high concentration 3+ out of 5.

From what I've read on google this is very bad. We did bleach our well

already and that lasted 2 days and the smell came back. We called
Culligan and they stated that the problem could be very serious as the
smell came back so quick after bleaching.

My understanding is that IRB (Iron reducing bacteria) can render a well
system useless very quickly.

Can anyone suggest a course of action to deal with this. The builder
says that its not his problem.

Thanks.


C & E December 23rd 06 10:09 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have discovered that we have Iron reducing bacteria in our new well.
We have been living in our new house for about 5 months and always had
a funny smell in the cold water. A test from a lab confirmed that it
was iron reducing bacteria and in high concentration 3+ out of 5.

From what I've read on google this is very bad. We did bleach our well

already and that lasted 2 days and the smell came back. We called
Culligan and they stated that the problem could be very serious as the
smell came back so quick after bleaching.

My understanding is that IRB (Iron reducing bacteria) can render a well
system useless very quickly.

Can anyone suggest a course of action to deal with this. The builder
says that its not his problem.

Thanks.


I'd get in touch with the health authorities about the potential health
risks and what, if any, responsibilities are those of the builder.



Toller December 23rd 06 10:22 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 

"C & E" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have discovered that we have Iron reducing bacteria in our new well.
We have been living in our new house for about 5 months and always had
a funny smell in the cold water. A test from a lab confirmed that it
was iron reducing bacteria and in high concentration 3+ out of 5.

From what I've read on google this is very bad. We did bleach our well

already and that lasted 2 days and the smell came back. We called
Culligan and they stated that the problem could be very serious as the
smell came back so quick after bleaching.

My understanding is that IRB (Iron reducing bacteria) can render a well
system useless very quickly.

Can anyone suggest a course of action to deal with this. The builder
says that its not his problem.

Thanks.


I'd get in touch with the health authorities about the potential health
risks and what, if any, responsibilities are those of the builder.

There are no health problems; the water just tastes lousy.
I have the same problem. A carbon filter lasts a couple days.
The only real fix is pretty expensive. I have stopped noticing it, but my
wife hasn't.



[email protected] December 23rd 06 10:51 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
Well, my wife and I are sick of it ! I'm going to tackle it one way or
another. Has anyone else had dealings with Iron Reducing bacteria and
how to deal with it ? And what damage it can cause ?



Toller wrote:
"C & E" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
We have discovered that we have Iron reducing bacteria in our new well.
We have been living in our new house for about 5 months and always had
a funny smell in the cold water. A test from a lab confirmed that it
was iron reducing bacteria and in high concentration 3+ out of 5.

From what I've read on google this is very bad. We did bleach our well
already and that lasted 2 days and the smell came back. We called
Culligan and they stated that the problem could be very serious as the
smell came back so quick after bleaching.

My understanding is that IRB (Iron reducing bacteria) can render a well
system useless very quickly.

Can anyone suggest a course of action to deal with this. The builder
says that its not his problem.

Thanks.


I'd get in touch with the health authorities about the potential health
risks and what, if any, responsibilities are those of the builder.

There are no health problems; the water just tastes lousy.
I have the same problem. A carbon filter lasts a couple days.
The only real fix is pretty expensive. I have stopped noticing it, but my
wife hasn't.



Don December 23rd 06 10:57 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
http://www.awwda.com/shock.html

wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, my wife and I are sick of it ! I'm going to tackle it one way or
another. Has anyone else had dealings with Iron Reducing bacteria and
how to deal with it ? And what damage it can cause ?




[email protected] December 23rd 06 11:48 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
That is excellent information, but since we shocked chlorinated and
that didn't work at all...I fear we might have a much worse problem
then we even realize.



Don wrote:
http://www.awwda.com/shock.html

wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, my wife and I are sick of it ! I'm going to tackle it one way or
another. Has anyone else had dealings with Iron Reducing bacteria and
how to deal with it ? And what damage it can cause ?



Don December 23rd 06 11:56 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
That is excellent information, but since we shocked chlorinated and
that didn't work at all...I fear we might have a much worse problem
then we even realize.


if at first you don't succeed, try, try , again



Dan Espen December 24th 06 12:09 AM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
writes:

That is excellent information, but since we shocked chlorinated and
that didn't work at all...I fear we might have a much worse problem
then we even realize.

Don wrote:
http://www.awwda.com/shock.html

wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, my wife and I are sick of it ! I'm going to tackle it one way or
another. Has anyone else had dealings with Iron Reducing bacteria and
how to deal with it ? And what damage it can cause ?


I have no experience with wells, but I did do some Google searches
earlier.

(Now I'm an expert.)

These bacteria form a coating. Multiple treatments
are frequently required.
In persistent cases you can have the well dosed with acid
to dissolve and kill the bacteria. You need a professional for that.

Speedy Jim December 24th 06 12:22 AM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
wrote:

We have discovered that we have Iron reducing bacteria in our new well.
We have been living in our new house for about 5 months and always had
a funny smell in the cold water. A test from a lab confirmed that it
was iron reducing bacteria and in high concentration 3+ out of 5.

From what I've read on google this is very bad. We did bleach our well

already and that lasted 2 days and the smell came back.



My understanding is that the bacteria are not
a significant health hazard, but the slime and odor
they produce are certainly an annoyance.

I tried shocking the well several times and almost
succeeded in blocking the (submers) pump inlet(!)
with their goop.

Experimenting, I found that adding bleach directly
to the water after it entered the house piping
eliminated both odor and slime.

Next step was to build a homemade chemical injection
system. I bought a (used) precision lab pump made
for these applications and piped it into my well pump
bladder tank. The feed pump is supplied with dilute bleach
and runs for a brief period when the well pump starts up
each cycle.

This system has worked flawlessly for the last 5 years.

Jim

Michael Strickland December 24th 06 05:47 PM

Iron Reducing Bacteria
 
On 23 Dec 2006 13:40:36 -0800, wrote:

We have discovered that we have Iron reducing bacteria in our new well.
We have been living in our new house for about 5 months and always had
a funny smell in the cold water. A test from a lab confirmed that it
was iron reducing bacteria and in high concentration 3+ out of 5.

From what I've read on google this is very bad. We did bleach our well

already and that lasted 2 days and the smell came back. We called
Culligan and they stated that the problem could be very serious as the
smell came back so quick after bleaching.


Beware of such statements from those with a vested interest (sellers of
filters). It is in their best interest to convince you to buy a more
expensive model that what may be necessary. Not a problem if you can afford
it, but if you're strapped for cash...

I'm not even implying that this is true in the above case, just something to
watch out for.

Best bet is to talk to your Extension Service Agent and/or local well
drillers. They are familiar with your area and the problems encountered. They
can also suggest solutions that have been found reliable in your area.

My understanding is that IRB (Iron reducing bacteria) can render a well
system useless very quickly.

Can anyone suggest a course of action to deal with this. The builder
says that its not his problem.


Iron bacteria are not a health risk - unless you are made of iron - the human
body is a deadly environment for them. Only a very few kinds of bacteria are
harmful to humans and only a few of those are really harmful.

The builder will have no responsibility as the water is safe to drink or the
health department wouldn't have ok'd the well for drinking water in the first
place (you would not have been able to close the sale). All the health
department cares about (at least here) is coliform (E. coli and friends)
bacteria.

Iron bacteria cause a smell and taste in the water that isn't particularly
palatable, but the main problem is buildup of bacteria colonies (brown slime)
in pipes and fixtures - particularly screens, aerators and filters as holes
are small in these locations. It can cause loss of pressure, and clogs.

I have seen it recommended (Extension Service IIRC) that you run bleach
through your system periodically to destroy the colonies and flush them away.
You need to remove screens and aerators prior to flushing though to prevent
catching the resulting crud in them.

I have read both positive and negative reports on the effectiveness of both
multiple shocking and acid treatment as a permanent cure - depends on the
population of the bacteria in the soil/rock supplying the water as I
understand it. I believe that acid treatments must be carried out by a
professional.

A 5 micron filter will catch many bacteria and, if it has carbon in it, will
help with the odor and taste. I use a whole house filter with a 5 micron
carbon filter to get the iron taste out of my water - no real problem with
the bacteria as levels aren't extremely high. Concentration of bacteria would
determine how quickly the filter clogs, but carbon should go a long way
toward fixing the smell/taste. You will have to shock the system upon
installation of the filter to kill the bacteria clinging to the sides of the
pipes and fixtures downstream of the filter, otherwise don't bother to
install one.

HTH.

Later, Mike
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