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[email protected] December 15th 06 02:13 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 
Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael


Noon-Air December 15th 06 02:25 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?


Maybe you need to contact the manufacturers of the chemical agents and get
the MSDS for them.



BobK207 December 15th 06 04:04 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

wrote:
Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael


Michael-

I believe "/triclosan" is the active ingredient in most anti-bacterial
soaps...it's probably safe but I avoid the use of them.....

because by using them we contribute to the "breeding" of super bugs
just use plain old soap (non anti-bacterial) it works by washing bugs
away not killing them

do you want triclosan resistant bugs in your house?

IMO just use a good (3M ~$15) filter & cahnge it every couple months
or get a "pemanent" washable electrostatic unit.

cheers
Bob


BobK207 December 15th 06 04:05 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

wrote:
Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael


Michael-

I believe "/triclosan" is the active ingredient in most anti-bacterial
soaps...it's probably safe but I avoid the use of them.....

because by using them we contribute to the "breeding" of super bugs
just use plain old soap (non anti-bacterial) it works by washing bugs
away not killing them

do you want triclosan resistant bugs in your house?

IMO just use a good (3M ~$15) filter & cahnge it every couple months
or get a "pemanent" washable electrostatic unit.

cheers
Bob


Noon-Air December 15th 06 04:16 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

"BobK207" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael


Michael-

I believe "/triclosan" is the active ingredient in most anti-bacterial
soaps...it's probably safe but I avoid the use of them.....

because by using them we contribute to the "breeding" of super bugs
just use plain old soap (non anti-bacterial) it works by washing bugs
away not killing them

do you want triclosan resistant bugs in your house?

IMO just use a good (3M ~$15) filter & cahnge it every couple months


Instead of paying the $$$ for the 3M brand name filters, use a generic or
off brand MERV 8 or 9 pleated filter, and change it every month.

or get a "pemanent" washable electrostatic unit.


I don't recommend these at all... they create too much restriction in the
air flow, and with the half dozen layers of media, there is no way to get it
absolutely clean without complete disassembly and washing it out with an
anti-bacterial/microbial cleaner then reassembling it. I just hauled a 3
foot tall stack ofthem to the dump.... if you hurry, you might still find a
couple of them there in your size.
cheers
Bob




Tom The Great December 15th 06 05:53 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 
On 15 Dec 2006 06:13:58 -0800, wrote:

Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael



IMHO, I thought the 'treatments' were to prevent stuff growing on the
filters, and do not release into the air. That was my observation
about some material I read.

later,

tom @
www.Consolidated-Loans.info


dantheman December 15th 06 05:55 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

Noon-Air wrote:
Instead of paying the $$$ for the 3M brand name filters, use a generic or
off brand MERV 8 or 9 pleated filter, and change it every month.


The US HVAC professional organization (forget its actual name)
recommends MERV 13 or higher. I've seen some MERV 11 around here for a
good price. 3M doesn't use MERV ratings but apparently the "1250"
rated ones are MERV 11...

Peace, Dan


BobK207 December 15th 06 07:25 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

Noon-Air wrote:
"BobK207" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael


Michael-

I believe "/triclosan" is the active ingredient in most anti-bacterial
soaps...it's probably safe but I avoid the use of them.....

because by using them we contribute to the "breeding" of super bugs
just use plain old soap (non anti-bacterial) it works by washing bugs
away not killing them

do you want triclosan resistant bugs in your house?

IMO just use a good (3M ~$15) filter & cahnge it every couple months


Instead of paying the $$$ for the 3M brand name filters, use a generic or
off brand MERV 8 or 9 pleated filter, and change it every month.

or get a "pemanent" washable electrostatic unit.


I don't recommend these at all... they create too much restriction in the
air flow, and with the half dozen layers of media, there is no way to get it
absolutely clean without complete disassembly and washing it out with an
anti-bacterial/microbial cleaner then reassembling it. I just hauled a 3
foot tall stack ofthem to the dump.... if you hurry, you might still find a
couple of them there in your size.
cheers
Bob


My electrostatic allows the guts to be pulled & run thru the
dishwasher....seems to be pretty easy & comes out clean (rinse water
clear)

both the 3M & the electrostaitc seem to work ok since the houses don't
have dust problems inspite of the occasional construction projects

cheers
Bob


z December 15th 06 09:58 PM

Use of Antimicrobial chemicals in air filters - is it safe?
 

Tom The Great wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 06:13:58 -0800, wrote:

Many residential and commercial HVAC systems and standalone air
purifiers use filters that contain a form of
antibacterial/antimicrobial chemical treatment (eg. Bionaire/Holmes
models use the Microban/triclosan treatments). Is the usage of such
chemicals on the filter surfaces truly safe for the inhabitants'
long-term health? Is there any risk of evaporation/transmission of any
of the antimicrobial chemicals into the outflowing air, and thus risk
of potential health risk due to the inhalation of these substances? Or
do these chemicals dissipate so quickly that there is ~zero net
chemical or evaporative outflow after a few days' worth of usage?

Thanks,

Michael



IMHO, I thought the 'treatments' were to prevent stuff growing on the
filters, and do not release into the air. That was my observation
about some material I read.

later,

tom @
www.Consolidated-Loans.info


Yeah, I would think the filters can't kill any bacteria that don't get
close to them. I doubt they are trying to evaporate bactericidal stuff
into the air, that's not a real workable idea. I figure molds and such
are going to be more of a problem than bacteria growing on the filter,
and they're harder to kill than bacteria. I figure, if my filter is so
dirty it's growing mushrooms, I better change it.



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