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JerseyMike November 13th 06 12:58 PM

brick chiminey repair
 
hey all my chiminey foir the furnace and water heater needs some attention
in the spring. the very top surface where the flue is, is flat w/ a
stucco/mortor type finish on it. well the house was built in '63-'64 and the
mortor/cement is looking like sand stone and wearing away.

my question is;
what should be used to repair it? what type of mix?

do i have to remove all the old mortor or can i go over the top of the
existing stuff?

i know that it should have pitch to it for water to runoff but
how do you trowel it for finish, are there suppose to be high *points* where
the angles are from the four corners or can it just be a gradual taper all
the way around.


thanks for any support and tips...

mike...............



Edwin Pawlowski November 13th 06 03:17 PM

brick chiminey repair
 

"JerseyMike" wrote in message

my question is;
what should be used to repair it? what type of mix?


I used morter mix. It had been holding up after 5 years so far.

do i have to remove all the old mortor or can i go over the top of the
existing stuff?


Anything loose shold be taken off, or course. if it is solid, it gives you a
goodtemplate for hte contour.



i know that it should have pitch to it for water to runoff but
how do you trowel it for finish, are there suppose to be high *points*
where
the angles are from the four corners or can it just be a gradual taper all
the way around.


Mine is just tapered. As a practical matter, it does not make any
difference, just what looks good to you.

If you know it needs repair, why go through a winter where more damage can
occur? Freezing - thawing cycles can make cracks even worse.





[email protected] November 13th 06 04:01 PM

brick chiminey repair
 
We nearly died because of a failed chiney cap,

What happens is the cement top cracks water gets between the ceramic
liner and bricks and freezes:( The liner broke and fell in and plugged
the hot water tank flue, we got carbon monoixide poisioning,
fortunately a friend visited he is a volunteer fireman and realized
what was happening. ventilated house, furnace flue fine hot water tank
plugged.

had chiney sweep come immediately roof covered with ice, ladder wouldnt
reach.

it was one of those close calls where you realized it might have been
your day...

get this fixed immediately!

probably a good idea for a camera inspoection of the inside to make
certain everything else is ok espically if ypu have a fireplace


JerseyMike November 14th 06 12:41 AM

brick chiminey repair
 

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"JerseyMike" wrote in message

my question is;
what should be used to repair it? what type of mix?


I used morter mix. It had been holding up after 5 years so far.

do i have to remove all the old mortor or can i go over the top of the
existing stuff?


Anything loose shold be taken off, or course. if it is solid, it gives you

a
goodtemplate for hte contour.



i know that it should have pitch to it for water to runoff but
how do you trowel it for finish, are there suppose to be high *points*
where
the angles are from the four corners or can it just be a gradual taper

all
the way around.


Mine is just tapered. As a practical matter, it does not make any
difference, just what looks good to you.

If you know it needs repair, why go through a winter where more damage can
occur? Freezing - thawing cycles can make cracks even worse.





there are no cracks in the existing surface mortor, but it is thin and
showing erosion aroind the edges. the mortor aroound the flue is still
tight and in good shape, but thanks for asking and making sure i wasn't
making a bad decision by putting it off.

mike.........



Al Bundy November 15th 06 11:29 PM

brick chiminey repair
 
"JerseyMike" wrote in
:

hey all my chiminey foir the furnace and water heater needs some
attention in the spring. the very top surface where the flue is, is
flat w/ a stucco/mortor type finish on it. well the house was built in
'63-'64 and the mortor/cement is looking like sand stone and wearing
away.

my question is;
what should be used to repair it? what type of mix?

do i have to remove all the old mortor or can i go over the top of the
existing stuff?

i know that it should have pitch to it for water to runoff but
how do you trowel it for finish, are there suppose to be high *points*
where the angles are from the four corners or can it just be a gradual
taper all the way around.


thanks for any support and tips...

mike...............



Here's some education on construction & repair.

http://www.askthebuilder.com/B92_Chi...truction.shtml
http://www.askthebuilder.com/092_Chi..._Repairs.shtml
http://www.askthebuilder.com/B95_Bri...pellents.shtml

[email protected] November 15th 06 11:43 PM

brick chiminey repair
 

I second everything that Edwin Pawlowski wrote.

I replaced mine last year using a basic mortar mix (I used 5/1), after
being told by a local tradesman thats what has been up there on the
whole street since he was a kid (he's late 50's now).

Get it done pronto though, give yourself some peice of mind...

Better safe than sorry....



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