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Loz2386 November 1st 06 02:49 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard such a thing?

thank you in advance for your time and input...

[email protected] November 1st 06 04:51 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
it is, here. a concrete driveway is taxed, but an asphalt one is not
(I'm in the midwest US).

best way to find out is to visit your local assessor and ask for the
criteria they use. here, it's on the property card. metal awning,
concrete pad, etc - all facets of your property are considered in order
to milk as much money as possible from you.


Tony Hwang November 1st 06 04:52 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

thank you in advance for your time and input...




Hi,
Tax is based on property value. Drive way will increase the value.
Any addition will.

Edwin Pawlowski November 1st 06 05:02 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 

"Loz2386" wrote in message
...

i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?


Never heard of it. Anything that increases the value of your home will thus
increase the tax bill, but I've never heard of a differentiation specific
for driveway materials. You may want to ask your tax assessor, because
your town may have some quirky laws the rest of us never heard of.



RicodJour November 1st 06 05:27 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?


I can't speak for your particular area, but in this area, also in NY, a
brick walkway in sand is valued less than a brick walkway on concrete,
so it stands to reason that a concrete driveway would be taxed at a
higher rate. Talk to the powers that be and find out exactly how much
the concrete driveway would raise your taxes so you can make an
informed decision.

R


Proctologically Violated©® November 1st 06 05:36 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
You could do a cement driveway, and cover it, periodically, w/ 1/16" of
asphalt.
Who'll know??
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
et...

"Loz2386" wrote in message
...

i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?


Never heard of it. Anything that increases the value of your home will
thus increase the tax bill, but I've never heard of a differentiation
specific for driveway materials. You may want to ask your tax assessor,
because your town may have some quirky laws the rest of us never heard of.




Tony Hwang November 1st 06 05:53 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

You could do a cement driveway, and cover it, periodically, w/ 1/16" of
asphalt.
Who'll know??
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, for *Anyone BUT* a Democrat or a Republican
Ending Corruption in Congress is the Single Best Way
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all d'numbuhs
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
et...

"Loz2386" wrote in message
...

i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?


Never heard of it. Anything that increases the value of your home will
thus increase the tax bill, but I've never heard of a differentiation
specific for driveway materials. You may want to ask your tax assessor,
because your town may have some quirky laws the rest of us never heard of.




Hmmm,
Looks like you hate corruption but like cheating covering concrete drive
way with ashpalt?

Proctologically Violated©® November 1st 06 06:11 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Hmmmm....
You know how to use pyooters, but you cain't think a single move ahead in a
chess game.
Well, here's the move:
Tax-collecting municipalities are run by corrupt Dems/Repubs, who **** every
man woman and child clear up to the ileocecal valve each and every day. And
who get drunk at the end of the day, and laugh 'til their dizzy over the
whole ass-****ing process. To them, it's hilarious.

It thus deeply pains me to give them 1c beyond what is "actually owed",
civically.
Which is proly only about 1/3 of the taxes they are already collecting.
So I figger they owe me, at this point, about $250,000--penalties,
donchaknow.

Iny other premature judgments you'd like to make?
--
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

You could do a cement driveway, and cover it, periodically, w/ 1/16" of
asphalt.
Who'll know??
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, for *Anyone BUT* a Democrat or a Republican
Ending Corruption in Congress is the Single Best Way
to Materially Improve Your Life
entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to
reply--ie, all d'numbuhs
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
et...

"Loz2386" wrote in message
...

i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

Never heard of it. Anything that increases the value of your home will
thus increase the tax bill, but I've never heard of a differentiation
specific for driveway materials. You may want to ask your tax assessor,
because your town may have some quirky laws the rest of us never heard
of.




Hmmm,
Looks like you hate corruption but like cheating covering concrete drive
way with ashpalt?




Tim Fischer November 1st 06 06:32 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
I've heard that here in MN, asphalt is considered 'temporary' but concrete
'permanant', so there is a tax difference.

Seems odd to me -- our last driveway, which we just replaced, was 25 years
old, and could have lived on -- we wanted it a bit wider so we went ahead
and replaced it. Otherwise with a little TLC the old one could have made it
another 5 years at least.

-Tim



Frank November 1st 06 12:31 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 

Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

You never know what the locals are going to do and need to talk to
them. If hiring a contractor, I'd ask him. If it is a new driveway
and requires a building permit (should not need a building permit to
repair an old one), I'd be wary that it might add to your tax base.

Frank


[email protected] November 1st 06 01:50 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 

Frank wrote:
Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

You never know what the locals are going to do and need to talk to
them. If hiring a contractor, I'd ask him.


What makes you think a driveway contractor knows anything about how
property tax valuations are done? If he's going to ask, he should ask
the local tax assessor.



If it is a new driveway
and requires a building permit (should not need a building permit to
repair an old one), I'd be wary that it might add to your tax base.

Frank



[email protected] November 1st 06 04:59 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
I agree with the above person who wrote this:

"all facets of your property are considered in order to milk as much
money as possible from you. "


[email protected] November 1st 06 05:32 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
In NJ if a concrete structure touches the foundation of your house, it
will be considered a permanant structure, and thus your taxes will go
up. So, if you build a shed with concrete floor, your taxes don't
increase. If you have a brick patio, that won't increase your taxes
either. If you have a concrete patio, that won't increase your taxes as
long as it doesn't touch the foundation... go figure!

So, you can get creative and get a concrete drive way, and have the
last one foot done with bricks :-)

Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

thank you in advance for your time and input...




--
Loz2386



mrsgator88 November 1st 06 06:00 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
"Loz2386" wrote in message
...

i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?


'Round here, the assessor gets a copy of every building permit. A new
driveway increases the value of your home, but not by much. Divide the cost
of the driveway ($3000 ?) by the value of your house ($300,000 ?), that's
1%, so figure a 1% increase in that example. Plug in your own numbers.

S



[email protected] November 1st 06 06:51 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 

Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

thank you in advance for your time and input...




--
Loz2386


Well, a cement driveway would not last too long. I suggest a concrete
driveway though.


Tater November 1st 06 10:19 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
Hmmmm....
You know how to use pyooters, but you cain't think a single move ahead in a
chess game.



you ought to run for a government post, since you seem to have no
better thing to do than glog up intelligent discussion with your filth,
and hide behind a pseudonym so you family does have to hang it''s head
in shame.

either put up or shut up. don't like the government? get on the ballot.


Proctologically Violated©® November 1st 06 11:28 PM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Who said it was a pseudonym????

Actually, my family is encouraging me to run.
I am, in fact, the party nominee of the Independent Party of The
Proctologically Violated (M)asses, which I used to announce in my sig, until
I discovered a far easier solution, currently in my sig.
Clucking school marms, such as yourself, just don't get it.
You think that pain in your backside is just a hemorrhoid.
It's not.
When The Insertion reaches your ileocecal valve, you might get it.
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, for *Anyone BUT* a Democrat or a Republican
Ending Corruption in Congress is the Single Best Way
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all d'numbuhs
"Tater" wrote in message
oups.com...

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
Hmmmm....
You know how to use pyooters, but you cain't think a single move ahead in
a
chess game.



you ought to run for a government post, since you seem to have no
better thing to do than glog up intelligent discussion with your filth,
and hide behind a pseudonym so you family does have to hang it''s head
in shame.

either put up or shut up. don't like the government? get on the ballot.



Proctologically Violated©® November 2nd 06 12:17 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Yeah, and when talking to the tax man, or anyone else in fukn gummint, use a
pay phone.
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, for *Anyone BUT* a Democrat or a Republican
Ending Corruption in Congress is the Single Best Way
to Materially Improve Your Life
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all d'numbuhs
wrote in message
ups.com...
I agree with the above person who wrote this:

"all facets of your property are considered in order to milk as much
money as possible from you. "




Proctologically Violated©® November 2nd 06 12:18 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Hilarious.
Plus, a lotta towns are now being re-assessed in NJ.
Not so hilarious.
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, for *Anyone BUT* a Democrat or a Republican
Ending Corruption in Congress is the Single Best Way
to Materially Improve Your Life
entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs
wrote in message
oups.com...
In NJ if a concrete structure touches the foundation of your house, it
will be considered a permanant structure, and thus your taxes will go
up. So, if you build a shed with concrete floor, your taxes don't
increase. If you have a brick patio, that won't increase your taxes
either. If you have a concrete patio, that won't increase your taxes as
long as it doesn't touch the foundation... go figure!

So, you can get creative and get a concrete drive way, and have the
last one foot done with bricks :-)

Loz2386 wrote:
i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?

thank you in advance for your time and input...




--
Loz2386





Proctologically Violated©® November 2nd 06 12:21 AM

Cement Driveways and Your Property Tax
 
Avoid permits at almost all costs.
Viva Clinton: Don't ask, don't tell.
Not the big deal in house selling that some make it--unless some asshole
goes out of their way to make it a big deal.
Always a gamble. Know yer risk aversion.
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, for *Anyone BUT* a Democrat or a Republican
Ending Corruption in Congress is the Single Best Way
to Materially Improve Your Life
entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs
"mrsgator88" wrote in message
. net...
"Loz2386" wrote in message
...

i am considering a cement driveway, but was told by a friend that in
doing so, would increase my property tax in new york. his reasoning is
that it would be concidered a "perminant addition". has anyone heard
such a thing?


'Round here, the assessor gets a copy of every building permit. A new
driveway increases the value of your home, but not by much. Divide the
cost of the driveway ($3000 ?) by the value of your house ($300,000 ?),
that's 1%, so figure a 1% increase in that example. Plug in your own
numbers.

S





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