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Jonathan Royce October 2nd 06 03:56 AM

Gas Furnace: Line the Chimney or Add a Powervent?
 
I recently went through the process of having my 2 flue chimney rebuilt from
the roofline up. I then lined one of the flues with a SS liner for a
woodburning fireplace insert.

The 2nd flue is currently being used by my gas furnace and HWH. I noticed in
the attic that some of the mortar is crumbing on that flue. (This is the
original part of the chimney, not the new part, which is just from the roof
up.) I plan to repoint these sections this spring. After reading some
articles online & in magazines, I think the problem is that my boiler is
causing too much condensation in the cold part of the chimney (in the
attic). This is causing the deterioration of the mortar.

This said, I am thinking of either a) purchasing a power vent and
redirecting the gas exhaust out the side of the house OR b) lining the 2nd
flue with a gas-compatible liner.

The cost seems about comparable ($1000-$1500 if I do it myself).

Any pros/cons to consider?

TIA,
Jonathan
Nashua, NH


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udarrell October 2nd 06 04:09 AM

Gas Furnace: Line the Chimney or Add a Powervent?
 
Jonathan Royce wrote:

I recently went through the process of having my 2 flue chimney rebuilt from
the roofline up. I then lined one of the flues with a SS liner for a
woodburning fireplace insert.

The 2nd flue is currently being used by my gas furnace and HWH. I noticed in
the attic that some of the mortar is crumbing on that flue. (This is the
original part of the chimney, not the new part, which is just from the roof
up.) I plan to repoint these sections this spring. After reading some
articles online & in magazines, I think the problem is that my boiler is
causing too much condensation in the cold part of the chimney (in the
attic). This is causing the deterioration of the mortar.

This said, I am thinking of either a) purchasing a power vent and
redirecting the gas exhaust out the side of the house OR b) lining the 2nd
flue with a gas-compatible liner.

The cost seems about comparable ($1000-$1500 if I do it myself).

Any pros/cons to consider?

TIA,
Jonathan
Nashua, NH


Only an opinion, - Good idea.
Make sure that the liner will leave it with enough capacity for the
furnace & HWH.
udarrell

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Brian V October 2nd 06 04:12 AM

Gas Furnace: Line the Chimney or Add a Powervent?
 

"Jonathan Royce" wrote in
message . ..
I recently went through the process of having my 2 flue chimney rebuilt
from the roofline up. I then lined one of the flues with a SS liner for a
woodburning fireplace insert.

The 2nd flue is currently being used by my gas furnace and HWH. I noticed
in the attic that some of the mortar is crumbing on that flue. (This is
the original part of the chimney, not the new part, which is just from the
roof up.) I plan to repoint these sections this spring. After reading some
articles online & in magazines, I think the problem is that my boiler is
causing too much condensation in the cold part of the chimney (in the
attic). This is causing the deterioration of the mortar.

This said, I am thinking of either a) purchasing a power vent and
redirecting the gas exhaust out the side of the house OR b) lining the 2nd
flue with a gas-compatible liner.

The cost seems about comparable ($1000-$1500 if I do it myself).

Any pros/cons to consider?

TIA,
Jonathan
Nashua, NH



The flue gases don't touch the brick. There's a clay type liner in there
then surrounded by brick. The brick is structural only. Have it cleaned and
serviced, a decent company will run a camera down there for cracks and
voids.



Bob F October 2nd 06 07:46 AM

Gas Furnace: Line the Chimney or Add a Powervent?
 

"Brian V" wrote in message news:PoGdnfg-

The flue gases don't touch the brick. There's a clay type liner in there
then surrounded by brick. The brick is structural only.


My chimney has no liner. Are you sure?

Bob



October 2nd 06 08:19 AM

Gas Furnace: Line the Chimney or Add a Powervent?
 
In article ,
Bob F wrote:

"Brian V" wrote in message news:PoGdnfg-

The flue gases don't touch the brick. There's a clay type liner in there
then surrounded by brick. The brick is structural only.


My chimney has no liner. Are you sure?

Bob



He probably is sure, but he is not correct. Flue liners are required
by many current building codes but go back a few decades or so and
this was not the case. Older houses often had brick chimneys with no
liner, and deterioration was/is a problem. High efficiency furnaces,
which have lower flue temperatures, do tend to make it worse because
of condensation, as some other psoters mentioned. The condensation is
worse than plain water for masonry, because it is slightly acidic,
which is generally harmful to mortar, and possibly the bricks
themselves.
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Art October 2nd 06 08:23 AM

Gas Furnace: Line the Chimney or Add a Powervent?
 
How old are the furnace and water heater. Current efficient furnaces can us
PVC to exhaust fumes because exhaust has little heat left in it. Water
heaters can be equipped with failsafe double pipes that have intake and
exhaust in one metal pipe. Spend money on these instead of chimney.


"Jonathan Royce" wrote in
message . ..
I recently went through the process of having my 2 flue chimney rebuilt
from the roofline up. I then lined one of the flues with a SS liner for a
woodburning fireplace insert.

The 2nd flue is currently being used by my gas furnace and HWH. I noticed
in the attic that some of the mortar is crumbing on that flue. (This is
the original part of the chimney, not the new part, which is just from the
roof up.) I plan to repoint these sections this spring. After reading some
articles online & in magazines, I think the problem is that my boiler is
causing too much condensation in the cold part of the chimney (in the
attic). This is causing the deterioration of the mortar.

This said, I am thinking of either a) purchasing a power vent and
redirecting the gas exhaust out the side of the house OR b) lining the 2nd
flue with a gas-compatible liner.

The cost seems about comparable ($1000-$1500 if I do it myself).

Any pros/cons to consider?

TIA,
Jonathan
Nashua, NH


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