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Norminn October 1st 06 02:10 PM

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News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.

dadiOH October 1st 06 02:31 PM

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Norminn wrote:
News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is
wrong with these guys?


After he was hit a couple of times he was flopping and became a moving
target :)

And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I
demand an investigation.


Buck fever...

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Jack October 1st 06 03:08 PM

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Norminn wrote:
News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.


You nor few others will agree with me but the reasoning behind all of
this lies much deeper than few realize. Due to the cold fact that they
to are also in the same boat , just in a different seat with a
different paddle. Ninety percent of what goes on today is performed by
either presnt or past drug addicts. Whos brains were fried (TV Add) and
they either don't have now or never recovered the ability to reason
sensibly. Yes they may have became drug free, but the effect the drugs
had on their stage of mentality has never been rationalized. This is my
observed opinion from being among drug addicts.
Once they use drugs they lose certain mental functions that are never
regained regardless of how long they remain drug free. In other words
they lose various brain functions It looks like only one may have been
really clean.


Oren October 1st 06 03:12 PM

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.


The cops arresting Rodney King were "batting out of turn". I suspect
these cops did not want to be accused of something similar. How did
they miss so many times?
--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

nowforsale October 1st 06 03:24 PM

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"Norminn" wrote in message
ink.net...
News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.



majorities will bask in violence as long as violence is glamorized in any
given society



Jeff Wisnia October 1st 06 04:42 PM

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Jack wrote:
Norminn wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.



You nor few others will agree with me but the reasoning behind all of
this lies much deeper than few realize. Due to the cold fact that they
to are also in the same boat , just in a different seat with a
different paddle. Ninety percent of what goes on today is performed by
either presnt or past drug addicts. Whos brains were fried (TV Add) and
they either don't have now or never recovered the ability to reason
sensibly. Yes they may have became drug free, but the effect the drugs
had on their stage of mentality has never been rationalized. This is my
observed opinion from being among drug addicts.
Once they use drugs they lose certain mental functions that are never
regained regardless of how long they remain drug free. In other words
they lose various brain functions It looks like only one may have been
really clean.



Not to mention the poor screwed up kids they may have helped create
because of breeding after they had effed up their genetic material with
the drugs they were abusing.

Jeff

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(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"What do you expect from a pig but a grunt?"

bill allemann October 1st 06 05:31 PM

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More felony persuits need to be handled like this.


"Norminn" wrote in message
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News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.




HeyBub October 1st 06 06:27 PM

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Norminn wrote:
News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is
wrong with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I
demand an investigation.


In New York (1999), four officers fired 41 rounds at a mope not more than 15
feet away, hitting him only 19 times (46%).

This is why police officers (aside from Barney Fife) carry more than one
bullet.

It's also called "suppressive fire."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_...hooting_victim)

Extensive investigations were held in the Diallo shooting (above), even a
trial. The four officers were acquitted and the US attorney declined to
press federal charges.

1,700 angry Muslims, blacks, and other assorted fools were arrested in the
protests over the shootings.

One study was done in Korea; as I recall, UN troops expended 6,000 rounds of
small arms ammunition for each "kill."



mm October 1st 06 09:14 PM

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:12:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.


The cops arresting Rodney King were "batting out of turn". I suspect
these cops did not want to be accused of something similar. How did
they miss so many times?


If they had him surrounded, they're lucky they didn't hit each other.

David Starr October 1st 06 10:57 PM

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:12:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

The cops arresting Rodney King were "batting out of turn". I suspect
these cops did not want to be accused of something similar. How did
they miss so many times?


They fired at extremely long range - 10 feet.

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Jim Yanik October 1st 06 11:58 PM

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Oren wrote in
:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is
wrong with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I
demand an investigation.


The cops arresting Rodney King were "batting out of turn". I suspect
these cops did not want to be accused of something similar. How did
they miss so many times?



Well,their score was better than the NYPD in Amadou Diallo's case.
IIRC,that was 19 hits out of 40 rounds fired.


BTW,people do not drop dead immediately after being shot with the first
round.(unless it's a head shot)

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Jim Yanik October 1st 06 11:59 PM

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mm wrote in
:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:12:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is
wrong with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I
demand an investigation.


The cops arresting Rodney King were "batting out of turn". I suspect
these cops did not want to be accused of something similar. How did
they miss so many times?


Because he was partially concealed.


If they had him surrounded, they're lucky they didn't hit each other.


Perhaps that's why only NINE of them fired their weapons?

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Jim Yanik October 2nd 06 12:01 AM

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"bill allemann" wrote in
m:

More felony persuits need to be handled like this.


"Norminn" wrote in message
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News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is
wrong with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I
demand an investigation.





Now you're going to anger the "protect the criminals" crowd.(liberals)

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Al Bundy October 2nd 06 05:12 AM

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Norminn wrote in news:p7PTg.8480$UG4.3583
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.



And why did only 9 of them fire weapons?


10th was eating popcorn watching the show?

Goedjn October 2nd 06 03:56 PM

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.



As I underestand it, getting better than 50% hits is fairly unusual.

I'm more confused about how you get 110 rounds out of 9 weapons...
Somebody had time to re-load?

Jim Yanik October 2nd 06 04:43 PM

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Goedjn wrote in
:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.


The murderer was partially hidden under a fallen tree trunk,where he had
dug in and covered himself with brush.




As I underestand it, getting better than 50% hits is fairly unusual.

I'm more confused about how you get 110 rounds out of 9 weapons...
Somebody had time to re-load?


9 guns/110 rounds is only 12.222 rounds per gun.
Most police semi-auto pistols have ~15 round mags.(double-stack)
(it used to be that only us civilians were restricted to only 10 round mags
under Clinton's 1994 Assault Rifle Ban;police were excepted from that.)

Consider that the police were also armed with AR-15s with 20 or 30 round
magazines.(also police HK-MP5 machine pistols have 30 rnd mags)

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Oren October 2nd 06 05:00 PM

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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:56:52 -0400, Goedjn wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.



As I underestand it, getting better than 50% hits is fairly unusual.

I'm more confused about how you get 110 rounds out of 9 weapons...
Somebody had time to re-load?


Here is what the sheriff said:

"I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was
that's all the ammunition they had," Judd said.

http://wokv.com/common/ap/2006/10/01/D8KFIRPO0.html

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HeyBub October 2nd 06 05:08 PM

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Goedjn wrote:
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:10:45 GMT, Norminn
wrote:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is
wrong with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I
demand an investigation.



As I underestand it, getting better than 50% hits is fairly unusual.

I'm more confused about how you get 110 rounds out of 9 weapons...
Somebody had time to re-load?


That's only 12+ rounds per weapon. 15-round magazines are common. I have
33-round magazines for my Glock-9mm.

Reloading taks no more than two seconds.




Nick Hull October 3rd 06 01:54 PM

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In article ,
Al Bundy wrote:

Norminn wrote in news:p7PTg.8480$UG4.3583
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.



And why did only 9 of them fire weapons?


10th was eating popcorn watching the show?


They were POLICE, they were eating donuts ;)

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Nick Hull October 3rd 06 01:55 PM

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In article ,
David Starr wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:12:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

The cops arresting Rodney King were "batting out of turn". I suspect
these cops did not want to be accused of something similar. How did
they miss so many times?


They fired at extremely long range - 10 feet.


Wow, that is long range (for cops). No wonder they had so many hits ;)

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Nick Hull October 3rd 06 01:57 PM

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In article ,
mm wrote:

If they had him surrounded, they're lucky they didn't hit each other.


They were so close they were shooting down so the misses hit the dirt,
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Al Bundy October 4th 06 12:55 AM

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Nick Hull wrote in
:

In article ,
Al Bundy wrote:

Norminn wrote in news:p7PTg.8480$UG4.3583
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired.
Total rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68.
What is wrong with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire
weapons? I demand an investigation.



And why did only 9 of them fire weapons?


10th was eating popcorn watching the show?


They were POLICE, they were eating donuts ;)



Silly me. Of course, you are right!!!

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the last guy probably jammed his weapon, and was unjamming it while the
others finsihed the job.

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Norminn wrote:
News of the Polk County, Florida, shooting of the cop-killer. Ten
officers surrounded the perpetrator, only nine of them fired. Total
rounds fired: 110. Number of bullets which hit perp: 68. What is wrong
with these guys? And why did only 9 of them fire weapons? I demand an
investigation.




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