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Covering fiberglass insulation?
There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper
side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
"jeffc" wrote in message
m... There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? as opposed to skin exposure, you might be breathing it in fiberglass is a known carcinogen (produces cancer) and required to be labeled as such in the usa fiberglass fibers are microscopic and cannot be seen, except for maybe looking in the area when it is completely dark with a flashlight and seeing the floating fibers in the light beam, they look shiny if you must have frequent use of an area with exposed fiberglass, wearing breathing masks is an idea, and if you want to cover the fiberglass to minimize touch exposure, an idea is using nonflammable plastic perforated with tiny holes so the fiberglass can breathe, which minimizes mold etc. another idea would be remove the fiberglass entirely and use environmentally safe insulation, like recycled cotton insulation treated with environmentally safe pesticide and mold/fungus repellant, or sheep wool if you have the bucks,,,cellulose is another idea |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
jeffc wrote: There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? You don't say whether the exposed insulation is in roof / ceiling, walls, or floor. The rest of the building is most probably insulated. The insulation covered with standard building materials. You can do the same. TB |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
if you are up there alot or use it for storage, I would wall over the
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Covering fiberglass insulation?
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:43:03 GMT, "jeffc" wrote:
There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? If you are walking over your insulation, as in it's between the top most floor's ceiling and the floor of the attic, you might have it installed incorrectyl. Now if it's on semi finished walls in your attic, I've seen people put up like 6 mil poly to keep dust down, and it will work as a vapor and draft barrior. Just guessing, since I can't see your installation. Got photos? :) later, tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
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Covering fiberglass insulation?
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:05:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: What is the purpose of that ugly HTML code in every message you post? Do you realize it does NOT show as pretty web content for the majority of newsgroup users? One of the things it took me a long time to learn, is that some people do things just to be annoying. wrote in message roups.com... Empressess #124457 The best Games a href=http://www.gamestotal.com/Multiplayer Online Games/a a href=http://www.gamestotal.com/Strategy Games/abra href=http://uc.gamestotal.com/Unification Wars/a - a href=http://uc.gamestotal.com/Massive Multiplayer Online Games/abra href=http://gc.gamestotal.com/Galactic Conquest/a - a href=http://gc.gamestotal.com/Strategy Games/abra href=http://www.stephenyong.com/runescape.htmRunescape/abra href=http://www.stephenyong.com/kingsofchaos.htmKings of chaos/abr Empressess #124457 The best Games a href=http://www.gamestotal.com/Multiplayer Online Games/a a href=http://www.gamestotal.com/Strategy Games/abra href=http://uc.gamestotal.com/Unification Wars/a - a href=http://uc.gamestotal.com/Massive Multiplayer Online Games/abra href=http://gc.gamestotal.com/Galactic Conquest/a - a href=http://gc.gamestotal.com/Strategy Games/abra href=http://www.stephenyong.com/runescape.htmRunescape/abra href=http://www.stephenyong.com/kingsofchaos.htmKings of chaos/abr jeffc wrote: There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? -- 92 days until the winter solstice celebration Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." -- George Washington |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
nowforsale wrote:
"jeffc" wrote in message m... There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? as opposed to skin exposure, you might be breathing it in fiberglass is a known carcinogen (produces cancer) and required to be labeled as such in the usa Fiberglass is not a "known" carcinogen and, while labeling as such is required by OSHA, they don't know squat and the data on which their requirement was based is hoplessly out of date. The American Lung Association says: "The IARC [Intl Agency for Research on Cancer] working group revised their previous classification of glass wool being a possible carcinogen. It is currently considered not classifiable as a human carcinogen. Studies done in the past 15 years since the previous report was released, do not provide enough evidence to link this material to any cancer risk." http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35439 another idea would be remove the fiberglass entirely and use environmentally safe insulation, like recycled cotton insulation treated with environmentally safe pesticide and mold/fungus repellant, or sheep wool if you have the bucks,,,cellulose is another idea All of which are flammable. Might as well use straw or crumpled newspaper. |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
"HeyBub" wrote in message
... nowforsale wrote: "jeffc" wrote in message m... There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? as opposed to skin exposure, you might be breathing it in fiberglass is a known carcinogen (produces cancer) and required to be labeled as such in the usa Fiberglass is not a "known" carcinogen and, while labeling as such is required by OSHA, they don't know squat and the data on which their requirement was based is hoplessly out of date. The American Lung Association says: "The IARC [Intl Agency for Research on Cancer] working group revised their previous classification of glass wool being a possible carcinogen. It is currently considered not classifiable as a human carcinogen. Studies done in the past 15 years since the previous report was released, do not provide enough evidence to link this material to any cancer risk." http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35439 Yeah, but it's still a really bad idea to breathe it. |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
wrote in message oups.com... if it is not for storage and you are just meandering through for no reason stop. OK Dad. Yes, I was just "meandering through it" for no reason at all. The only thing I can say is I get really wanked out on heroin and crack and just start meandering around sometimes. I know that is no excuse though. |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
"Tom The Great" wrote in message ... If you are walking over your insulation, as in it's between the top most floor's ceiling and the floor of the attic, you might have it installed incorrectyl. Now if it's on semi finished walls in your attic, I've seen people put up like 6 mil poly to keep dust down, and it will work as a vapor and draft barrior. Just guessing, since I can't see your installation. Got photos? :) It's just regular wall insulation. Floor is covered with floorboards. I just didn't know if a vapor barrier was acceptable or not. Someone else mentioned perforating the covering. |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
"HeyBub" wrote in message
... nowforsale wrote: "jeffc" wrote in message m... There is exposed fiberglass insulation in my attic (in other words, paper side out, exposed fiberglass side in). I'd like to cover some areas of frequent use so there is no exposure to our skin as we touch it. Ideas? as opposed to skin exposure, you might be breathing it in fiberglass is a known carcinogen (produces cancer) and required to be labeled as such in the usa Fiberglass is not a "known" carcinogen and, while labeling as such is required by OSHA, they don't know squat and the data on which their requirement was based is hoplessly out of date. The American Lung Association says: "The IARC [Intl Agency for Research on Cancer] working group revised their previous classification of glass wool being a possible carcinogen. It is currently considered not classifiable as a human carcinogen. Studies done in the past 15 years since the previous report was released, do not provide enough evidence to link this material to any cancer risk." http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35439 another idea would be remove the fiberglass entirely and use environmentally safe insulation, like recycled cotton insulation treated with environmentally safe pesticide and mold/fungus repellant, or sheep wool if you have the bucks,,,cellulose is another idea All of which are flammable. Might as well use straw or crumpled newspaper. it is beneficial to the fiberglass industry that you contributed the above comments in favor of fiberglass here is information from just one of the almost 60,000 hits on google for "fiberglass carcinogen" about fiberglass being a "potent carcinogen", noting fiberglass is tiny pieces of glass, hardly something one wants to introduce into their lungs or body by breathing or any other method from http://consumerlawpage.com/article/c...n-toxics.shtml [begin quote] Fiberglass Corning Fiberglas Company was formed in 1938, and only three years later, in 1941, evidence of pulmonary disease was reported by Walter J. Siebert, who investigated the health of workers with the cooperation of Owens Corning. Fiber glass is now used for thermal insulation of industrial buildings and homes, as acoustic insulation, for fireproofing, as a reinforcing material in plastics, cement, and textiles, in automotive components, in gaskets and seals, in filters for air and fluids, and for many other miscellaneous uses. More than 30,000 commercial products now contain fiber glass. As asbestos has been phased out because of health concerns, fiber glass production in the U.S. has been rising. In 1975, U.S. production of fiber glass was 247.88 million kilograms (545.3 million pounds); by 1984 it had risen to 632.88 million kilograms (1392.3 million pounds). If that rate of growth (10.4% per year) held steady, then production of fiber glass in the U.S. in 1995 would be 4365 million pounds. Dr. Mearl F. Stanton of the National Cancer Institute found that glass fibers less then 3 microns in diameter and greater than 20 microns in length are "potent carcinogens" in rats; and, he said in 1974, "it is unlikely that different mechanisms are operative in man." A micron is a millionth of a meter (and a meter is about three feet). Fibers of this size not only cause cancer in laboratory animals, but also cause changes in the activity and chemical composition of cells, leading to changes in the genetic structure in the cellular immune system. In 1970, Dr. Stanton announced that "it is certain that in the pleura of the rat, fibrous glass of small diameter is a potent carcinogen." The pleura is the outer casing of the lungs; cancer of the pleura in humans is called mesothelioma and it is caused by asbestos fibers. Stanton's research shows that when glass fibers are manufactured as small as asbestos fibers, glass causes cancer in laboratory animals just as asbestos does. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), of the World Health Organization, listed fiber glass as a "probable [human] carcinogen" in 1987. In 1990, the members of the U.S. National Toxicology Program (NTP)representatives of 10 federal health agenciesconcluded unanimously that fiber glass "may reasonably be anticipated to be a carcinogen" in humans. In 1994, the U.S.Department of Health and Human Services reported to Congress that fiber glass is "reasonably anticipated to be a carcinogen." In the U.S., fiber glass must now be labeled a carcinogen. It has been 25 years since researchers at the National Cancer Institute concluded that fiber glass is a potent carcinogen in experimental animals. Since then science has well documented the hazard. Ninety percent of American homes now contain fiber glass insulation. All of this fiber glass will eventually be released into the environment and cause significant health hazards. [end quote] your comment on the flamability of cotton insulation, sheep wool, and cellulose of "All of which are flammable. Might as well use straw or crumpled newspaper." indicate you probably did not research the matter; information on the combustibility of sheep wool (naturally fire retardant), cotton insulation (treated with fire retardant), and cellulose insulation (treated with fire retardant) is readily available through an internet search |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
jeffc wrote:
just didn't know if a vapor barrier was acceptable or not. That would depend on where you are located. Mike |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
"Michael Daly" wrote in message ... jeffc wrote: just didn't know if a vapor barrier was acceptable or not. That would depend on where you are located. I'm located in central North Carolina. |
Covering fiberglass insulation?
replying to Tom The Great, DIYDon wrote:
Cover it with Tyvek or similar highly permeable air infiltration barrier. Its pretty darn cheap and if stapled and taped, you may also get some heat transfer reduction by reducing convection losses. (Theres highly regarded data from a Canadian government lab showing that at very low temperatures, fiberglass is porous enough to enable convection current to develop within the insulation, drastically reducing effectivess. ........Probably more critical of you live in Alberta😀. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...on-149094-.htm |
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