Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since it's a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp" wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the LED on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working? What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.

Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

Possibly you misinterpreted the instructions. From what I see, it's a 20 amp
rated switch that requires a neutral to function


"Alan Smithee" wrote in message
news:z8jOg.554216$IK3.504255@pd7tw1no...
I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton
switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since it's
a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp"
wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to
Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I
thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the LED
on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it
should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working?
What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.

Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

You're right! I'm reading the instructions. The unit I have is a 20A device.
But they don't show this on the main installation page...you have to flip
the instuctions back and forth and figure out what model you have. I went
with what the guy at the BORG recommended. Obviously too heavy a switched.
In short I could have bought the 6560M model which has slightly different
times but is only rated for 5A devices such as small fans and lights. Thx.


"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
...
Possibly you misinterpreted the instructions. From what I see, it's a 20
amp
rated switch that requires a neutral to function


"Alan Smithee" wrote in message
news:z8jOg.554216$IK3.504255@pd7tw1no...
I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton
switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since
it's
a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp"
wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to
Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well
that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to
use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you
hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I
thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the
LED
on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it
should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working?
What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.

Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

Just my opinion: If the guy at the "Borg" knew what he was talking about,
he'd have a real job


"Alan Smithee" wrote in message
news:PCkOg.554316$IK3.11600@pd7tw1no...
You're right! I'm reading the instructions. The unit I have is a 20A
device.
But they don't show this on the main installation page...you have to flip
the instuctions back and forth and figure out what model you have. I went
with what the guy at the BORG recommended. Obviously too heavy a switched.
In short I could have bought the 6560M model which has slightly different
times but is only rated for 5A devices such as small fans and lights. Thx.


"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
...
Possibly you misinterpreted the instructions. From what I see, it's a 20
amp
rated switch that requires a neutral to function


"Alan Smithee" wrote in message
news:z8jOg.554216$IK3.504255@pd7tw1no...
I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton
switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since
it's
a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp"
wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to
Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well
that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to
use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you
hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I
thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the
LED
on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it
should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working?
What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.

Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:22:39 GMT, "Alan Smithee"
wrote:

You're right! I'm reading the instructions. The unit I have is a 20A device.
But they don't show this on the main installation page...you have to flip
the instuctions back and forth and figure out what model you have. I went
with what the guy at the BORG recommended. Obviously too heavy a switched.
In short I could have bought the 6560M model which has slightly different
times but is only rated for 5A devices such as small fans and lights. Thx.

IIRC, Tim Taylor had a plan to use a whole house fan as a bathroom
fan. It was great. It had bubbles coming up out of the toilet. You
may want to do that in a couple years, so it's good you have the right
timer.

What was the difference in price?

"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
...
Possibly you misinterpreted the instructions. From what I see, it's a 20
amp
rated switch that requires a neutral to function


"Alan Smithee" wrote in message
news:z8jOg.554216$IK3.504255@pd7tw1no...
I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton
switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since
it's
a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp"
wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to
Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well
that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to
use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you
hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I
thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the
LED
on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it
should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working?
What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.

Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:42:07 GMT, "Alan Smithee"
wrote:

I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since it's a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp" wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the LED on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working? What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.


With that connection (the one without the neutral), the timer would
have to get its power through the load. This works with incandescent
bulbs. Fans are different. Those instructions probably said
"incandescent only" somewhere.

That "5 amp" connection would probably work with a light fixture using
up to 600W of incandescent bulbs.

I don't know anything about such a switch taking awhile to start
working.
--
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http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

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Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:42:07 GMT, "Alan Smithee"
wrote:

I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton
switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since
it's a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp"
wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to
Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well
that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you
hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I
thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the LED
on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it
should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working?
What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.


With that connection (the one without the neutral), the timer would
have to get its power through the load. This works with incandescent
bulbs. Fans are different. Those instructions probably said
"incandescent only" somewhere.

That "5 amp" connection would probably work with a light fixture using
up to 600W of incandescent bulbs.

I don't know anything about such a switch taking awhile to start
working.
--
102 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd

Haed to see, but here it is.
http://www.smarthome.com/4253.html

Leviton Push Button Timers 5A 20A ?! Huh
 

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:27:00 -0700, "Big Al" wrote:


"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:42:07 GMT, "Alan Smithee"
wrote:

I recently upgraded my bathroom fan from a on/off switch to a Leviton
switch
a "5, 10, 15, 30 minute" electronic model 6230M. I was thinking since
it's a
15A circuit and a bathroom fan that I'd hook it up using the "5 Amp"
wiring
diagram, a fan not going to pull anything near 5 amps right?. Black to
Line,
Blue to device and Green to ground, White/Neutral not connected. Well
that
didn't work. The LED didn't even come on. So, I change my approach to use
Leviton's "20 Amp" wiring diagram which basically just means that you
hook
the Leviton timer's white lead into the neutral as well. At first I
thought
that wasn't working either. When I put the power on the main line the LED
on
the bottom just blinked. I tried pushing some buttons and nothing, then
after about another minute it just started mysteriously working like it
should. I used a VO meter to test everything, the wiring is all as it
should
be. Do these switches need to "charge up" before they start working?
What's
with the 5 Amp circuit not working. Thx.


With that connection (the one without the neutral), the timer would
have to get its power through the load. This works with incandescent
bulbs. Fans are different. Those instructions probably said
"incandescent only" somewhere.

That "5 amp" connection would probably work with a light fixture using
up to 600W of incandescent bulbs.

I don't know anything about such a switch taking awhile to start
working.


Haed to see, but here it is.
http://www.smarthome.com/4253.html


Thanks for the link, I'm interested as well.

The 2 wiring diagrams refer to 2 different versions of the switch. One
with 5A capacity identified as for lights only (no motors, according
to that page). The other with 20A capacity, requiring a neutral
connection.
--
101 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"How could you ask be to believe in God when there's
absolutely no evidence that I can see?" -- Jodie Foster