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Backwards sliding door lock
My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass
sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! The sliding porting of the door is on the inside of the house. The fixed portion is outside. She would like to be able to 'lock' it open a couple of inches for air flow. If the sliding portion was outside, a simple locking bar against it and the fixed portion would work, but as it is reversed, the bar would be on the outside. I thought about putting a locking pin in the top or bottom, but there is not enough clearance to drill the frame with out hitting the glass. I suggested a door lock chain, but she doesn't like that idea. If I was her big brother, I'm sure I could figure it out, but alas, I'm her younger brother... |
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I don't think it was installed backwards. The simple solution is to cut a
broomstick or large dowel so it's a few inches shorter than the width of the fixed door. Then just lay the dowel in the track while the door is closed. It will prevent the sliding portion from moving more than a few inches, and it can't be reached or moved from the outside. BTDT, Pat McC. "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! The sliding porting of the door is on the inside of the house. The fixed portion is outside. She would like to be able to 'lock' it open a couple of inches for air flow. If the sliding portion was outside, a simple locking bar against it and the fixed portion would work, but as it is reversed, the bar would be on the outside. I thought about putting a locking pin in the top or bottom, but there is not enough clearance to drill the frame with out hitting the glass. I suggested a door lock chain, but she doesn't like that idea. If I was her big brother, I'm sure I could figure it out, but alas, I'm her younger brother... |
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According to Pat and Chris :
I don't think it was installed backwards. The simple solution is to cut a broomstick or large dowel so it's a few inches shorter than the width of the fixed door. Then just lay the dowel in the track while the door is closed. It will prevent the sliding portion from moving more than a few inches, and it can't be reached or moved from the outside. There are devices on the market that do a better/more secure job of this. A broomstick, dowel, or the traditional (Canadian ;-) solution of using a hockey stick handle is probably best left to those situations where you don't want the door open at all, and it's just backing up the door lock. -- Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them. |
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Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding
part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. Steve wrote: My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! The sliding porting of the door is on the inside of the house. The fixed portion is outside. She would like to be able to 'lock' it open a couple of inches for air flow. If the sliding portion was outside, a simple locking bar against it and the fixed portion would work, but as it is reversed, the bar would be on the outside. I thought about putting a locking pin in the top or bottom, but there is not enough clearance to drill the frame with out hitting the glass. I suggested a door lock chain, but she doesn't like that idea. If I was her big brother, I'm sure I could figure it out, but alas, I'm her younger brother... |
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According to Steve :
Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. You'll want to see if you can get the door fixed then. -- Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them. |
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"Abe" wrote in message ... Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. Well, geez. Thanks for wasting our time. Get the door fixed first. Some brands have the sliding portion the outside. Pella for one. They also have a locking mechanism that allows the door to be partially opened, about 6" or so. |
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"Chris Lewis" wrote in message ... According to Steve : Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. You'll want to see if you can get the door fixed then. It is not broken though. |
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I just installed one of the metal bar locks from HD or LWS and it was
able to be installed with the sliding door on the outside. It also was setup to lock in a venting position. good luck Steve wrote: My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! The sliding porting of the door is on the inside of the house. The fixed portion is outside. She would like to be able to 'lock' it open a couple of inches for air flow. If the sliding portion was outside, a simple locking bar against it and the fixed portion would work, but as it is reversed, the bar would be on the outside. I thought about putting a locking pin in the top or bottom, but there is not enough clearance to drill the frame with out hitting the glass. I suggested a door lock chain, but she doesn't like that idea. If I was her big brother, I'm sure I could figure it out, but alas, I'm her younger brother... |
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Steve wrote: My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! How about putting a standard chain latch on it. The kind that lets you open a door to see who is outside without letting them get in to easily. Some of the ones that are a single solid loop of steal that hooks over a hook on the door is pretty strong. If it was installed right at the top of the door an intruder may not even find it and waste all his time trying to find what is holding the door. |
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Thanks .. the local Pella dealer has the type of door, but doesn't sell
any 'partial' locks.. but did say Peachtree has a similar line. I have emailed them. Edwin Pawlowski wrote: "Abe" wrote in message ... Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. Well, geez. Thanks for wasting our time. Get the door fixed first. Some brands have the sliding portion the outside. Pella for one. They also have a locking mechanism that allows the door to be partially opened, about 6" or so. |
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I had thought of that one also, but she has watched too many TV shows
and doesn't like the chain idea.. CanopyCo wrote: Steve wrote: My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! How about putting a standard chain latch on it. The kind that lets you open a door to see who is outside without letting them get in to easily. Some of the ones that are a single solid loop of steal that hooks over a hook on the door is pretty strong. If it was installed right at the top of the door an intruder may not even find it and waste all his time trying to find what is holding the door. |
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Steve,
Without a diagram I'm not sure of your problem. Why don't you remove all the hardware, flip the doors over, install the hardware, and put in the sliding door on the inside track? Dave M. |
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Steve wrote:
My sister has she would like to lock partially open - a typical glass sliding patio door - except it appears to have been installed backwards! The sliding porting of the door is on the inside of the house. The fixed portion is outside. She would like to be able to 'lock' it open a couple of inches for air flow. If the sliding portion was outside, a simple locking bar against it and the fixed portion would work, but as it is reversed, the bar would be on the outside. I thought about putting a locking pin in the top or bottom, but there is not enough clearance to drill the frame with out hitting the glass. I suggested a door lock chain, but she doesn't like that idea. If I was her big brother, I'm sure I could figure it out, but alas, I'm her younger brother... My sister also has one of those, but I don't remember how it looks. Looking at my door as if it were put in backwards, you could drill through the top part of the frame and into the door. On my door you would drill through a 1-1/2" thick piece before getting to the door. The glass in a door doesn't usually extend more than 1/2" above the bottom of the top part of the frame. Your door could be different but I would have another look at drilling a hole(s)to slip a nail into. Good Luck. |
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It is a 33 year old house. A pretty big job to flip the doors/frame.
From the inside of the house, there is a fixed panel on the left half of the patio opening - not on a track. Next to it on the outside, there is a track which holds the sliding door. With the track on the outside a track stop won't work. She's nixed security chains.. and I don't think there is enough clearance for foot bolts into the bottom of the sliding door (glass too low). Peachtree and Pella have patio doors that are set up this way. I've asked both for ideas / parts to lock door partially open and they don't have a way. Just hoping someone else has solved this problem.. thanks to all for feedback / suggestions Steve. David Martel wrote: Steve, Without a diagram I'm not sure of your problem. Why don't you remove all the hardware, flip the doors over, install the hardware, and put in the sliding door on the inside track? Dave M. |
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Backwards sliding door lock
The door and your post are both backwards. There's a certain sense of
synchronicity in the air. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Steve" wrote in message ps.com... Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. |
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This is Bob Barker, reminding you to help keep the house population
under control. Get your sliding glass window fixed. More seriously, call a glass company out, please. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Chris Lewis" wrote in message ... According to Steve : Thanks for the replies.. but I meant, the problem is that the sliding part is on the OUTSIDE. The broomsticks, dowels, locking bars won't work. You'll want to see if you can get the door fixed then. -- Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them. |
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Steve wrote: I had thought of that one also, but she has watched too many TV shows and doesn't like the chain idea.. Maybe she would like this one. If you reversed the short bar to act like a hook there is no way it could come loose short of ripping it out of the wall. Busting the glass would be easier and quieter. http://www.lockandhinge.com/scripts/...ig&product=482 |
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replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote:
What you described above is a properly installed sliding door. With the sliding mechanism on the inside you just put a wood dowel or small clamp preventing the slider from moving. This cannot be done if the sliding mechanism is in the outside. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ck-139782-.htm |
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replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote:
Check online for locks to rectify your issue. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ck-139782-.htm |
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:14:02 GMT, mikeymikemikers321
m wrote: replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote: What you described above is a properly installed sliding door. With the sliding mechanism on the inside you just put a wood dowel or small clamp preventing the slider from moving. This cannot be done if the sliding mechanism is in the outside. Oh jeez. If the slider is on the outside, the door was installed bass-ackwards. The stationary panel is outside on a double door slider. If you need to get in, use a red fire axe. |
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On 3/7/2018 4:11 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:14:02 GMT, mikeymikemikers321 m wrote: replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote: What you described above is a properly installed sliding door. With the sliding mechanism on the inside you just put a wood dowel or small clamp preventing the slider from moving. This cannot be done if the sliding mechanism is in the outside. Oh jeez. If the slider is on the outside, the door was installed bass-ackwards. The stationary panel is outside on a double door slider. Pella makes doors like that with the screen on the inside. |
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Oren posted for all of us...
On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:14:02 GMT, mikeymikemikers321 m wrote: replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote: What you described above is a properly installed sliding door. With the sliding mechanism on the inside you just put a wood dowel or small clamp preventing the slider from moving. This cannot be done if the sliding mechanism is in the outside. Oh jeez. If the slider is on the outside, the door was installed bass-ackwards. The stationary panel is outside on a double door slider. If you need to get in, use a red fire axe. I'm on call... -- Tekkie |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:27:17 -0500, Tekkie® wrote:
Oren posted for all of us... On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:14:02 GMT, mikeymikemikers321 m wrote: replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote: What you described above is a properly installed sliding door. With the sliding mechanism on the inside you just put a wood dowel or small clamp preventing the slider from moving. This cannot be done if the sliding mechanism is in the outside. Oh jeez. If the slider is on the outside, the door was installed bass-ackwards. The stationary panel is outside on a double door slider. If you need to get in, use a red fire axe. I'm on call... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NFkCNIDxI |
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Oren posted for all of us...
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:27:17 -0500, Tekkie® wrote: Oren posted for all of us... On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:14:02 GMT, mikeymikemikers321 m wrote: replying to Steve, mikeymikemikers321 wrote: What you described above is a properly installed sliding door. With the sliding mechanism on the inside you just put a wood dowel or small clamp preventing the slider from moving. This cannot be done if the sliding mechanism is in the outside. Oh jeez. If the slider is on the outside, the door was installed bass-ackwards. The stationary panel is outside on a double door slider. If you need to get in, use a red fire axe. I'm on call... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NFkCNIDxI KG needs me to rescue her... -- Tekkie |
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replying to Steve, mich wrote:
Hi Steve, Did you ever figure out a solution for your sisters lock? I am having the same exact issue! I have been to lock smiths, bought several locks which don't fit. Not sure what else to do at this point. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ck-139782-.htm |
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