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2006 August August 14th 06 03:22 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.





cm August 14th 06 03:27 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
If you want the repair to be anywhere close to invisible then call a drywall
repair company.

cm


"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.







Edwin Pawlowski August 14th 06 03:55 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?


It has to be sprayed on, not a simple DIY job. There are people that do it
for a living but I imagine they'd want a nice buck to come out and set up.

I hate the stuff and scraped my ceiling clean and painted them. IMO, much
better looking.



John Gilmer August 14th 06 03:55 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

"cm" wrote in message
...
If you want the repair to be anywhere close to invisible then call a

drywall
repair company.


I repaired a much small area (8"x12") with some stuff I picked up at HD.

THE problem with DIY stuff is that you KNOW where you did the repair and you
always notice. But the nature of the "popcorn" ceiling is that it's all so
random that someone who doesn't know what was "new" and what was "original"
can really tell. If you ask someone to find the "repaired" spot, he is as
likely to find some "defect" in the original job as your "repair."

Obviously, you have to scrape off some of the adjacent "popcorn" the make a
ragged edge between new and old. But remember, it's "random."



cm


"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.









2006 August August 14th 06 05:31 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
How much work need to scrap the ceiling of a 15' x 15' size room?

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?


It has to be sprayed on, not a simple DIY job. There are people that do it
for a living but I imagine they'd want a nice buck to come out and set up.

I hate the stuff and scraped my ceiling clean and painted them. IMO, much
better looking.




Jim McLaughlin August 14th 06 05:54 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
29 square feet more than that needed to scrape a 14' x 14' ceiling.

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"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
How much work need to scrap the ceiling of a 15' x 15' size room?

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?


It has to be sprayed on, not a simple DIY job. There are people that do

it
for a living but I imagine they'd want a nice buck to come out and set

up.

I hate the stuff and scraped my ceiling clean and painted them. IMO,

much
better looking.






Al Bundy August 14th 06 06:21 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
"2006 August" wrote in
om:

My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.






Other than an experienced person doing it with a hopper, no. You're gonna
see it.

They make spray cans of adjustable popcorn. It anly does a VERY small
area. I've never used it but I just know you're gonna see it.

They make 2 gal buckets of popcorn you roll on but you're gonna see it.
Even if you got it to match it's gonna be visable where the old meets the
new unless you scraped and feathered it in and got very lucky.

You can buy a bag of popcorn and mix it with ceiling paint. Good luck
getting the right amount of popcorn that is your particular ceiling. Did
I mention, you're gonna see it?

I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.


Gee, 22". Sure you don't mean 22.5...the distance between two trusses
edge to edge? 16"???...about the depth of a trim person. Auguuuuust,
don't tell me you were up in the attic and stepped off the truss cord????
Silly you!

When you do put that patch up, sister some wood pcs on to the sides of
the truss chords/joist and screw in on two ends so it won't move later.
On the other two sides put a board perpendicular connecting two truss
chords/joists. Screw both other two patch edges and the old ceiling edge
to it. If you don't do this, a crack will develop at the seams over time.
THen of course tape and mud as you had planned.

Steve B August 14th 06 06:36 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.


Use this opportunity to trash it all. It scrapes off easily, and putting up
some texture is easy.

Popcorn ceilings suck. Dust and cobweb magnets. Discolored. Hard to
paint. etc etc etc.

It will probably cost the same either way.

STeve



Steve B August 14th 06 06:41 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
How much work need to scrap the ceiling of a 15' x 15' size room?


Move out furniture. Cover floors with visqueen. Spray water on ceiling.
Work with about three foot sections at a time. Try to get just wet enough
to get off, let the water soak in so it comes off easy. You will know when
it has soaked enough by how easy it scrapes off.

No easy clean way to do it. It goes fast and comes off easy. Don't make
more work by scraping hard. Light scraping yields no marks so you can just
sand and retexture.

STeve



HamNCheese August 14th 06 05:24 PM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?



If you do remove it, get an asbestos test first. Many popcorn
ceilings have asbestos in them (ours do) and have to be professionally
removed. They are safe so long as they are intact, but if you remove
them the asbestos will be released.

Edwin Pawlowski August 14th 06 06:47 PM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

"HamNCheese" wrote in message

If you do remove it, get an asbestos test first. Many popcorn
ceilings have asbestos in them (ours do) and have to be professionally
removed. They are safe so long as they are intact, but if you remove
them the asbestos will be released.


No, it really won't be released. It comes down in globs, just like it is on
the ceiling. You wet it first with a spray bottle or sponge so it scrapes
easily and you have no dust problems and no professionals needed. The tiny
bit of asbestos that may be in there is safely disposed of.



Steve Barker LT August 14th 06 07:20 PM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
You might want to send off a sample for asbestos testing. It was used in
sprayed ceilings up to a point. If you worry about such things that is.

--
Steve Barker



"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
How much work need to scrap the ceiling of a 15' x 15' size room?

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"2006 August" wrote in message
om...
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?


It has to be sprayed on, not a simple DIY job. There are people that do
it for a living but I imagine they'd want a nice buck to come out and set
up.

I hate the stuff and scraped my ceiling clean and painted them. IMO,
much better looking.






George E. Cawthon August 14th 06 10:34 PM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
2006 August wrote:
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.




The stuff comes in a pressurized spray can, 1-3
different size particles, most ceilings I have
seen and my own are the large type particles. It
is rather difficult to use because the stuff comes
out at high pressure and you need to overlap on to
the old part. You might have to get two cans and
go from different directions to make the repair
essentially invisible.

I removed a stove pipe, filled in the hole and
then sprayed with the stuff. First shot was a bit
of a mess but the second resulted in a repair I
can see but most people wouldn't notice. You will
most likely have to paint the ceiling after you
complete the repair. I would not try painting the
ceiling with a roller although you will get many
people who have said they did. The best way and
the way that uses the least paint is to spray it,
but that means covering everything; not hard if
you simply tape vinyl ceiling to floor and cover
the floor before you begin. Did all of my rooms
that way.

George E. Cawthon August 14th 06 11:05 PM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
HamNCheese wrote:
Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?



If you do remove it, get an asbestos test first. Many popcorn
ceilings have asbestos in them (ours do) and have to be professionally
removed. They are safe so long as they are intact, but if you remove
them the asbestos will be released.


Why test, just remove it, and no, in many places
you the homeowner can remove it himself, with no
problem.
If you wet the stuff to remove it, there won't be
anything released.

[email protected] August 15th 06 12:13 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 

2006 August wrote:
My house is built in 1977 in Silicon Valley Northern California.
The white ceiling is what they so call pop-corn acoustic ceiling.
I need to replace a area of 16" x 22" ceiling dry sheet rocks.

Can you tell me how to re-paint this pop-corn ceiling to match the rest
ceiling?

What is this material and how to apply it?

Thank you.


Two words: KITTY LITTER.

I tried the spray on stuff and it was a horrendous mess that didn't
match at all so I quickly wiped it off.

I got a hot tip to apply a skim coat and smash kitty litter into the
skim coat. After it dries, carefully prime and paint to match.

Practice this on cardboard first to see if you can match your texture.
I found that applying primer or paint heavily on a second coat made
some drops that helped blend things by making the kitty litter less
angular/sharp/rocky looking.


2006 August August 15th 06 01:21 AM

how to repair pop-corn acoustic ceiling?
 
This house was built in 1997 in Silicon Valley by Shappell, major builder
here. I think they stopped using asbestos since?
Or, am I wrong?

"HamNCheese" wrote in message
If you do remove it, get an asbestos test first. Many popcorn
ceilings have asbestos in them (ours do) and have to be professionally
removed. They are safe so long as they are intact, but if you remove
them the asbestos will be released.






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