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Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Hello all,
As an intermediate DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
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I'm pretty sure that it is not. The arrows on the blade are going the
same direction as the arrow on the saw, thus the teeth are pointed upwards at the front of the saw (if that makes any sense). Anything else that could cause this? Otherwise, its back to the home depot and pray they return it. Click Fraud wrote: wrote: I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Is the blade on backwards? |
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Joe,
Have you tried using the same blade with your cordless? Is the blade sharp and correct for the work? Why do you think this is a saw problem rather than a blade problem? Dave M. |
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Dave,
I can't use the same blade as the cordless is a 5.5'' and the skil corded is a 7.25''. I'm inclined to think that this possibly a saw problem because the blade is new and I am fairly confident it is installed properly. I don't know what else to think, I'm quite surprised to be having this substantial of a problem on such a mild job. jm David Martel wrote: Joe, Have you tried using the same blade with your cordless? Is the blade sharp and correct for the work? Why do you think this is a saw problem rather than a blade problem? Dave M. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Hello all, As an intermediate DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe Noticing that you have already replied that the blade appears to be on correctly I must ask if you are using the blade that came with the saw? The usually aren't worth the time it takes to install them. Buy a carbide blade of the proper size and see how that cuts. -- Colbyt One picture can be worth a 1000 words. Post yours at www.ImageGenie.net for FREE. |
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I would guess it is the blade. If you are doing a free cut, then there is
nothing to bind like if your rip fence is misaligned on a table saw. Get a good general purpose carbide blade and try again. wrote in message oups.com... Hello all, As an intermediate DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
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"jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... Dave, I can't use the same blade as the cordless is a 5.5'' and the skil corded is a 7.25''. I'm inclined to think that this possibly a saw problem because the blade is new and I am fairly confident it is installed properly. I don't know what else to think, I'm quite surprised to be having this substantial of a problem on such a mild job. You either have the blade on backwards, or a very dull blade. Hit any nails recently? Bob |
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They should take it back if it was a recent purchase. Take a piece of burnt
wood along. Check to see if the blade [left to right or right to left] is square to the foot and does not wobble excessively. Steve "jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... I'm pretty sure that it is not. The arrows on the blade are going the same direction as the arrow on the saw, thus the teeth are pointed upwards at the front of the saw (if that makes any sense). Anything else that could cause this? Otherwise, its back to the home depot and pray they return it. Click Fraud wrote: wrote: I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Is the blade on backwards? |
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Buy a new sawblade, and put the new sawblade on.
-- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. wrote in message oups.com... Hello all, As an intermediate DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
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OK, so get a sawblade with a nicotine patch. Seriously. Replace the
blade. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "mm" wrote in message ... On 31 Jul 2006 14:32:13 -0700, wrote: Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a Smoking in saws is bad. See if you can get it to cut out smoking, or at least switch to filters. |
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jmyszka wrote:
I'm pretty sure that it is not. The arrows on the blade are going the same direction as the arrow on the saw, thus the teeth are pointed upwards at the front of the saw (if that makes any sense). Anything else that could cause this? Otherwise, its back to the home depot and pray they return it. Click Fraud wrote: wrote: I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Is the blade on backwards? Ha! you just ran into another problem,which is the front and which is the back of the saw. If you think you are driving a car and not feeding wood into a machine, and lots maybe most woodworkers do, then you stand and feed wood in and the side that the cut wood emerges at is the front. However, if you think you are feeding wood into a machine, the side nearest you is the front of the machine (saw). To answer you question, though, when you feed the wood in, the contact with the blade should have saw teeth going down into the saw. Or another way to look at is the gullets are moving toward you. |
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On 31 Jul 2006 16:43:46 -0700, "jmyszka"
wrote: Dave, I can't use the same blade as the cordless is a 5.5'' and the skil corded is a 7.25''. I'm inclined to think that this possibly a saw problem because the blade is new and I am fairly confident it is installed properly. I don't know what else to think, I'm quite surprised to be having this substantial of a problem on such a mild job. I got a small electric chain saw at a yard sale, and it would barely cut. I was trying to figure out how to sharpen it, when I gradually realized the chain was on backwards. In a circular saw the points and openings of the teeth should point up in front. Because the blade turns clockwise when viewed from the left. jm David Martel wrote: Joe, Have you tried using the same blade with your cordless? Is the blade sharp and correct for the work? Why do you think this is a saw problem rather than a blade problem? Dave M. |
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jmyszka wrote:
I'm pretty sure that it is not. The arrows on the blade are going the same direction as the arrow on the saw, thus the teeth are pointed upwards at the front of the saw (if that makes any sense). Anything else that could cause this? Otherwise, its back to the home depot and pray they return it. Click Fraud wrote: wrote: I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Is the blade on backwards? Oops. I didn't see the "Skill saw." Sorry, forget what I said. Possible causes are a poor blade, saw blade not parallel to the tracking edge of the saw, end play of the bearings. |
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:56:37 -0400, Phil Munro
wrote: In addition to what others have said, occasionally wood will warp when cut in a direction which tightens it at the trailing edge of the cut. This "clamping" effect can cause a problem like yours. Or, if you are trying to do a curved (jig saw) cut, that will burn the wood, too. But I would go with a new blade, a carbide one. I use a carbide blade for all my work; normal rip or cross-cut blades do not last on anything but light weight cutting. --Phil wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
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Thanks to everyone for their input. Home Depot was glad to take their
saw back, and I picked up a dewalt jigsaw that finished the job easily. jm Goedjn wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:56:37 -0400, Phil Munro wrote: In addition to what others have said, occasionally wood will warp when cut in a direction which tightens it at the trailing edge of the cut. This "clamping" effect can cause a problem like yours. Or, if you are trying to do a curved (jig saw) cut, that will burn the wood, too. But I would go with a new blade, a carbide one. I use a carbide blade for all my work; normal rip or cross-cut blades do not last on anything but light weight cutting. --Phil wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
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replying to jmyszka, Jack Lindsey wrote:
i read where if the fence is not properly lined up will make bad cuts or burning saw blade mis alighnment. use a capenter square, or exact spacer, set screws in top of fence loosen and adjust fence to front and back tighten set screws -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:44:05 AM UTC-5, Jack Lindsey wrote:
replying to jmyszka, Jack Lindsey wrote: i read where if the fence is not properly lined up will make bad cuts or burning saw blade mis alighnment. use a capenter square, or exact spacer, set screws in top of fence loosen and adjust fence to front and back tighten set screws Unfortunately the OP has passed away, mainly because you waited 11 years to answer his question. He never finished the stairs and one evening he tripped going down and broke his neck. His son inherited the crappy circular saw and is now screwing up projects on his own house. |
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On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:58:24 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:44:05 AM UTC-5, Jack Lindsey wrote: replying to jmyszka, Jack Lindsey wrote: i read where if the fence is not properly lined up will make bad cuts or burning saw blade mis alighnment. use a capenter square, or exact spacer, set screws in top of fence loosen and adjust fence to front and back tighten set screws Unfortunately the OP has passed away, mainly because you waited 11 years to answer his question. He never finished the stairs and one evening he tripped going down and broke his neck. His son inherited the crappy circular saw and is now screwing up projects on his own house. The 345 gerbils really miss him. ヽ(ヅ)ノ [8~{} Uncle Kerf Monster |
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replying to jmyszka, Lovefishing wrote:
I to am having that problem with the last three blades I put in my skilsaw. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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replying to jmyszka, Tania Wilfrad wrote:
I faced this issue - it was a brand new blade, so no doubt on the sharpness here. Yet, on my very first cut itself the wood started smoking, and the saw would not go in as smoothly as it should be.. But the cut was not that bad at all, and that made me doubly confused. Later on, after reading through multiple posts, including this forum, i realized that i made the mistake of putting it on in the reverse direction - actually, the blade was meant for a standard clockwise rotation cut, but my machine ( a cheap one ) was expecting an anti-clockwise blade. I just reversed the blade, and voila! burning stopped, cuts are much more cleaner -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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replying to jmyszka, Richard I Harris wrote:
Were you using a square to guide the saw straight through the cut? If not, the saw could bind, resin build up and the now-dirty blade start smoking. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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replying to Richard I Harris, Ed S wrote:
Replaced my Circular Skilsaw, which had same blade for over 10 years, with brand new blade. All the videos said have the writing side of the blade facing out, but in the end, the blade was on backwards, and hence the smoke and burn. It's not a problem with saw, or anything else, the bottom line is the blade goes the opposite way you would think and assume. I turned it around and perfect cuts with no smoke. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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replying to jmyszka, Tom wrote:
My Ryobi cordless is smoking out the side circular saw .does this mean I burnt it up or how do I fix it -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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replying to DerbyDad03, Smokey wrote:
😂😂😂 -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...em-133535-.htm |
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Beware of poorly written owner's manuals. You might think you followed directions to the letter. And then discover like I did that the pictures don't always match reality. In my case the markings (holes) of the blade intended to show blade rotation were backward from what the manual shows. So yes, the blade was backward and caused smoking and lousy cuts. It's true that before trying a cut the teeth are the best indicator of proper blade orientation if you know what to look for. In my case the teeth are shaped so that it's hard for a newbie to tell at a glance whether they're "pointing up" at the front of the saw. I thought the teeth were pointing up, and those dang holes in the saw were the same orientation as shown in the manual. But it was wrong. Once the blade was mounted correctly it cut easily and straight without smoking. The business edge of the teeth should rotate "toward and into" the saw (or "up") at the front where it cuts. Looks to me like there are two surefire ways to know if you've got the blade right or wrong, regardless of any blade markings. The teeth can tell you. And the smoke and rough cuts do too.
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