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yourname July 27th 06 09:19 PM

Ceramic Tile/ Grout question
 
All,

I have a large shower with 12+" ceramic tile on the floor and walls. The
tile was set over schluter[sp?] waterproofing and bright orange dimply
stuff. Quite state of th art 2 years ago, available at HD now.

The tile is designed to slope to the drain and it does, but the tile guy
didn't set it quite the way I wanted, and it as such the first tile
around the edge is steeper thant the 6 or 9 in the middle. This causes a
little water to remain in the grout lines till it evaporates. Hasn't
been a problem, but I have noticed that in these areas [and not
elsewhere] there are some 1/8-3/16 inch diameter voids in the grout. the
grout also has an overall spally feel, like a little bit or sand comes
up when you rub it with your finger, where it doesn't elsewhere. I have
some of the grout in the garage[packrat] and can effect somekind of
repair, but am wondering if there is a more permanent solution.

The tile guy said the grout 'didn't need' to be sealed. The grout bag
said you could so I did. Is it possible I didn't seal this area well?

My plan is to dig out the small holes and fill with new grout. I jsut
would like to do this once.

Comments?

G

Dick July 28th 06 05:32 AM

Ceramic Tile/ Grout question
 
If the grout is looking like its not even its not hard to scrape it out just
enough to add a new coat, or use a dremel tool to remove it. What I do is
scrape out what I need with a sharp tool and re grout the effected area if
you have the identicle grout as was used when the floor was grouted , if not
redo the whole floor area. I always use a good quality sealer regardless of
what the tile guys says. Some grout has sealer built in some doesn t. It
doesn t hurt to seal it either way it won t hurt.
I have grouted several bathrooms and always use a sealer where direct water
will go. I re seal the grout on a yearly basis.



"yourname" wrote in message
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All,

I have a large shower with 12+" ceramic tile on the floor and walls. The
tile was set over schluter[sp?] waterproofing and bright orange dimply
stuff. Quite state of th art 2 years ago, available at HD now.

The tile is designed to slope to the drain and it does, but the tile guy
didn't set it quite the way I wanted, and it as such the first tile
around the edge is steeper thant the 6 or 9 in the middle. This causes a
little water to remain in the grout lines till it evaporates. Hasn't
been a problem, but I have noticed that in these areas [and not
elsewhere] there are some 1/8-3/16 inch diameter voids in the grout. the
grout also has an overall spally feel, like a little bit or sand comes
up when you rub it with your finger, where it doesn't elsewhere. I have
some of the grout in the garage[packrat] and can effect somekind of
repair, but am wondering if there is a more permanent solution.

The tile guy said the grout 'didn't need' to be sealed. The grout bag
said you could so I did. Is it possible I didn't seal this area well?

My plan is to dig out the small holes and fill with new grout. I jsut
would like to do this once.

Comments?

G




krw July 28th 06 05:45 AM

Ceramic Tile/ Grout question
 
In article wd9yg.13519$S_1.13140@trndny05, says...
All,


snip

The tile is designed to slope to the drain and it does, but the tile guy
didn't set it quite the way I wanted, and it as such the first tile
around the edge is steeper thant the 6 or 9 in the middle. This causes a
little water to remain in the grout lines till it evaporates. Hasn't
been a problem, but I have noticed that in these areas [and not
elsewhere] there are some 1/8-3/16 inch diameter voids in the grout.


That sounds pretty bad. Those aren't voids, he cheated you out of
grout! ;-)

the
grout also has an overall spally feel, like a little bit or sand comes
up when you rub it with your finger, where it doesn't elsewhere. I have
some of the grout in the garage[packrat] and can effect somekind of
repair, but am wondering if there is a more permanent solution.


How old is the grout? If it's been opened, I wouldn't use it if
it's over six months old. I don't think a piecework fix is going
to work anyway. You might have to cut out the grout and start
over.

The tile guy said the grout 'didn't need' to be sealed. The grout bag
said you could so I did. Is it possible I didn't seal this area well?


....and cause huge holes like this? Is the subfloor under the
shower stable? It sounds like you're getting flex in there that's
causing the grout to fail. I doubt it's the sealer (how can you do
that wrong ;), but I'm just a DIYer too.

My plan is to dig out the small holes and fill with new grout. I jsut
would like to do this once.


I'd cut out all the grout and replace it.

--
Keith


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