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July 13th 06 01:08 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler? would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such possibilities? hehe
It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle circuit provided the wiring is suitable?




[email protected] July 13th 06 01:54 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 

wrote:
My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler? would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such possibilities? hehe
It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate this lighting desire.


Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle circuit provided the wiring is
suitable?

Why isn't this your first choice, since it's straightforward and done
all the time? I hope you intend to use an electrician for the actual
work.


Doug Miller July 13th 06 02:32 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
In article vJqtg.37942$AB3.24626@fed1read02, wrote:
My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the side of the
house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering about a
nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an outdoor light
using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler? would
tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such ridiculous
things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such possibilities? hehe
It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate this lighting desire. Can we
extend off of a 110v receptacle circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


No offense intended, but you don't seem to understand this stuff well enough
to do it safely. Please hire a pro, or at least get hold of a few books so you
can learn how to do it right. Improper wiring can kill.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Joseph Meehan July 13th 06 02:51 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
wrote:
My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the
side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering
about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an outdoor
light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of the
tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler?
would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such
ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such
possibilities? hehe It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate
this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle circuit
provided the wiring is suitable?


Yes it can be done, BUT. You need to make sure that that 240V circuit
has a neutral as well as a ground included (at least four wires) As the
others have suggested, I will also. There are a few possible glitches that
may come up and you may will miss one and end up with a dangerous situation
if you want to do this yourself. I suggest hiring a professional. Also
make sure you get a permit, it would not be good to find out that your home
fire insurance will not pay off because of un-authorized wiring.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



JimL July 13th 06 05:40 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:08:59 GMT, wrote:

My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler? would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such possibilities? hehe
It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


I'd do it in a heartbeat - IF I had a good neutral for the 220V
circuit. One hot plus the neutral equal normal 110v circuit, almost.


How about getting some 100 watt fluorescent bulbs? That would cut
your draw down on your evaporative system by 2/3 or more.



HeyBub July 14th 06 12:05 AM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
JimL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:08:59 GMT, wrote:

My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the
side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering
about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an
outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of
the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler?
would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such
ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such
possibilities? hehe It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate
this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle
circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


I'd do it in a heartbeat - IF I had a good neutral for the 220V
circuit. One hot plus the neutral equal normal 110v circuit, almost.


How about getting some 100 watt fluorescent bulbs? That would cut
your draw down on your evaporative system by 2/3 or more.


Do you mean 23-watt?



[email protected] July 15th 06 10:18 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 

wrote:
My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler? would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such possibilities? hehe
It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


Use a 220 volt lighting fixture........~:


Mark Lloyd July 15th 06 11:45 PM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:27:55 -0500, JimL wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:05:20 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

JimL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:08:59 GMT, wrote:

My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the
side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering
about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an
outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of
the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler?
would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such
ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such
possibilities? hehe It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate
this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle
circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


I'd do it in a heartbeat - IF I had a good neutral for the 220V
circuit. One hot plus the neutral equal normal 110v circuit, almost.


How about getting some 100 watt fluorescent bulbs? That would cut
your draw down on your evaporative system by 2/3 or more.


Do you mean 23-watt?


Exactly. The package says 100 watts worth of light but only uses 23
watts.


and the "watts" in an (incandescent) 100W bulb is electrical
consumption, not light output. Incandescent bulbs aren't very
efficient, so the light output is considerably less.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

krw July 16th 06 12:16 AM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:05:20 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

JimL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:08:59 GMT, wrote:

My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the
side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering
about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an
outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of
the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler?
would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such
ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such
possibilities? hehe It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate
this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle
circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


I'd do it in a heartbeat - IF I had a good neutral for the 220V
circuit. One hot plus the neutral equal normal 110v circuit, almost.


How about getting some 100 watt fluorescent bulbs? That would cut
your draw down on your evaporative system by 2/3 or more.


Do you mean 23-watt?


Exactly. The package says 100 watts worth of light but only uses 23
watts.


Lumens is the measure of light output. Watts is the measure of
electrical energy you're putting into the thing. What they're
saying is that they put put the same light (lumens) as a 100W light
bulb while consuming less than 1/4 the electricity.

Look at the lumens of any light bulb and compare that with the
watts.

--
Keith

JimL July 16th 06 03:01 AM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:16:01 -0400, krw wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:05:20 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

JimL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:08:59 GMT, wrote:

My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the
side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering
about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an
outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of
the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler?
would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such
ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such
possibilities? hehe It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate
this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle
circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


I'd do it in a heartbeat - IF I had a good neutral for the 220V
circuit. One hot plus the neutral equal normal 110v circuit, almost.


How about getting some 100 watt fluorescent bulbs? That would cut
your draw down on your evaporative system by 2/3 or more.

Do you mean 23-watt?


Exactly. The package says 100 watts worth of light but only uses 23
watts.


Lumens is the measure of light output. Watts is the measure of
electrical energy you're putting into the thing. What they're
saying is that they put put the same light (lumens) as a 100W light
bulb while consuming less than 1/4 the electricity.

Look at the lumens of any light bulb and compare that with the
watts.


The package says 100 watts in big bold print.




krw July 16th 06 03:03 AM

Electrical question about splicing into one hot wire for a light from a set of hots for 220 circuit
 
In article ,
says...
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:16:01 -0400, krw wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:05:20 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

JimL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:08:59 GMT, wrote:

My Wife's mother wants a install an outdoor lighting fixture on the
side of the house where there is no convenient power access.
Instead of having to run a new 110v circuit 150ft, we were wondering
about a nearby 220v circuit that feeds 1 evap cooler.
Can we branch off from one of the hot 110 v lines to power an
outdoor light using 2 90watt bulbs? will this lower the voltage of
the tapped
into hot line and cause a fault or power issue for the evap cooler?
would tapping into each hot lines with only 1 90 watt bulb. be more
viable solution. Or should we immediately stop thinking of such
ridiculous things and smack ourselves for even thinking of such
possibilities? hehe It just seems awefully expensive to accomodate
this lighting desire. Can we extend off of a 110v receptacle
circuit provided the wiring is suitable?


I'd do it in a heartbeat - IF I had a good neutral for the 220V
circuit. One hot plus the neutral equal normal 110v circuit, almost.


How about getting some 100 watt fluorescent bulbs? That would cut
your draw down on your evaporative system by 2/3 or more.

Do you mean 23-watt?


Exactly. The package says 100 watts worth of light but only uses 23
watts.


Lumens is the measure of light output. Watts is the measure of
electrical energy you're putting into the thing. What they're
saying is that they put put the same light (lumens) as a 100W light
bulb while consuming less than 1/4 the electricity.

Look at the lumens of any light bulb and compare that with the
watts.


The package says 100 watts in big bold print.


What does the fine print say?

--
Keith


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