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Neighbor disputes my property line location
Please God, do not make this person my neighbor. I have suffered
enough. -- Cheri I do not understand why you have this hostile atitude towards my queries. I find the answers provided here very informative. Why would you assume that this is the only place I am soliciting answers? Why would you assume I did not hire a lawyer? Why do you assume you have the complete picture based on |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Goedjn wrote:
On 21 Jun 2006 10:40:28 -0700, "MiamiCuse" wrote: Just bought a property in Miami-Dade County, Florida and want to build a fence along the property line on my side. The neighbor has parked a vehicle on the grass with half the car over on my side. The hood is up and the engine is out and he is apparently fixing it in his garage. He has a few other cars parked on his property that are partially disassembled. I recently had the survey done during the purchase and the surveyor sprayed painted the iron pin locations and one of them is right at a power pole. The survey shows the line is 25 feet from the exterior wall of my house, which is about 7 feet from the exterior wall of his house. When I mentioned to my new neighbor that I am going to build a fence and whether he mind moving his disassembled vehicle out of the way he said yes no problem. Then later he came back and seemed upset and says he disagrees with where the property line is. I showed him the spray painted iron pins. I showed him the power pole from the utility company, I showed him my survey and measured from my wall to the spray painted location - 25 feet. He disagrees. He says it should be half way between the two houses. I stated to hiim this is not the case as the property line is defined in the legal description and this is what the survey is going by, and that if he has a survey of his house he should be able to confirm this. He says he does not have a survey. I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Any advise? Decide which you value more, a happy neighbor, or your property. You're not going to get both. Hmm, You gotta be joking! Give up so much side yard for El Meano neighbor? I won't. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
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mm wrote: Www.findlaw.com has statutes and for many states, a decent way to find the rirght statute, but as far as I know, it has no case law. It has most state supreme court decisions, most (I think all) federal decisions published all the way to the Supremes. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
MiamiCuse wrote:
Abe wrote: I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Just go to the Miami-Dade property records Web site and look up the parcel maps for you and your neighbors house. You'll be able to determine right quick what the property boundaries are. http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp I did that, the aerial maps are not very precise, with tree covering and low resolution, I am only able to tell that there is more room on my side then his side, but nothing that I can use definitively to scale off some distances. Lord, man...you had a surveyor who located the corner stakes. And a description of your property. What more do you want? -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Simple. Call the police, have the car towed off of your property.
-- Steve Barker "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ups.com... I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Any advise? MC |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Decide which you value more, a happy neighbor, or your property. You're not going to get both. Hmm, You gotta be joking! Give up so much side yard for El Meano neighbor? I won't. Well, that makes the decision fairly easy, then, doesn't it? |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Yenc-Post wrote: .... My town calls a car like that abandoned and junk. Even if it were a brand new car you can't have it taken apart for more than 7 days. Also we aren't allowed to park on the grass. .... Suggests to me your town is far too powerful/overreaching if that is really the case. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
MiamiCuse wrote:
Abe wrote: I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Just go to the Miami-Dade property records Web site and look up the parcel maps for you and your neighbors house. You'll be able to determine right quick what the property boundaries are. http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp I did that, the aerial maps are not very precise, with tree covering and low resolution, I am only able to tell that there is more room on my side then his side, but nothing that I can use definitively to scale off some distances. I'd suggest you just go down to city hall, give them a copy of the survey (and insist they keep it), and indicate where you intend to set the fence. Have them issue you the proper permit for the fence. With that in hand, send a registered letter to your neighbor including copies of the survey, the plans, and the permit, with a request that his vehicle be removed from your property by a specific date. At that point it'll be up to your neighbor to initiate proceedings to stop you, which will mean hiring a lawyer and maybe having another survey done, too. There's a very good chance that his lawyer would just look at your survey and tell him he's got no case. If you want to play it safer, you could schedule a meeting with the city inspector or engineer, and advise them of the dispute with your neighbor while applying for the permit. That way they won't be caught by surprise if/when the neighbor calls about it. Every city gets calls about fence fights on a fairly regular basis, so their city inspector or engineer could probably advise you as how to handle the dispute. The advantage to this strategy is that you'll have them on your side from the beginning; the disadvantage is that they might want to delay issuing the permit until the dispute is resolved. That's where your providing them with a copy of the survey comes in handy - you're giving them your evidence upfront, which should help them reach their decision. If your neighbor decides to hold a grudge over you making lawful use of your property, don't feel compelled to keep trying to repair the relationship. Just continue to be civil and hope that he eventually simmers down. HellT |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
In article , Hell Toupee says...
MiamiCuse wrote: Abe wrote: I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Just go to the Miami-Dade property records Web site and look up the parcel maps for you and your neighbors house. You'll be able to determine right quick what the property boundaries are. http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp I did that, the aerial maps are not very precise, with tree covering and low resolution, I am only able to tell that there is more room on my side then his side, but nothing that I can use definitively to scale off some distances. I'd suggest you just go down to city hall, give them a copy of the survey (and insist they keep it), and indicate where you intend to set the fence. Have them issue you the proper permit for the fence. With that in hand, send a registered letter to your neighbor including copies of the survey, the plans, and the permit, with a request that his vehicle be removed from your property by a specific date. At that point it'll be up to your neighbor to initiate proceedings to stop you, which will mean hiring a lawyer and maybe having another survey done, too. There's a very good chance that his lawyer would just look at your survey and tell him he's got no case. If you want to play it safer, you could schedule a meeting with the city inspector or engineer, and advise them of the dispute with your neighbor while applying for the permit. That way they won't be caught by surprise if/when the neighbor calls about it. Every city gets calls about fence fights on a fairly regular basis, so their city inspector or engineer could probably advise you as how to handle the dispute. The advantage to this strategy is that you'll have them on your side from the beginning; the disadvantage is that they might want to delay issuing the permit until the dispute is resolved. That's where your providing them with a copy of the survey comes in handy - you're giving them your evidence upfront, which should help them reach their decision. If your neighbor decides to hold a grudge over you making lawful use of your property, don't feel compelled to keep trying to repair the relationship. Just continue to be civil and hope that he eventually simmers down. This is the best post so far. I definately think it's worthwhile pursuing this, and right now, and with as much legal groundwork laid as possible. This isn't likely a neighbor you'd have a good relationship with anyway, and, if you wimp out about this issue, he's likely to take more advantage. I had to do some territory-defending with both my immediate neighbors when I moved in, with one we've long made amends and get along well (and they've even admitted their wrong on the early problems, although that wasn't necessary by me); the other has moved away after having pretty much ****ed the rest of the neighborhood off on other things. One thing - make sure a fence on the property line is legal; it is in my munincipaltiy, but not in many. I considered putting up a fence between myself and the problematic neighbor (even in an easment area), and in considering whether or not it should go on the property line or not, some friends and relations pretty much convinced me that putting it on recently surveyed property line is the way to go, as maintaining the ohter side of a fence within my property can be a hassle with a bad neighbor - might as well put it on the line, let him have the nice side (or put up a fence where both sides are nice), write off what paint or whatever he may do on that side, and be done with it. But this guy is majorly stepping on your toes, and the Nice Neighbor approach has gone as far as it will go. Time to get legalistic and to act according to your interests only. Banty -- |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Well now, EVERYBODY has to weigh in on an important national question like this- so here I come. Why has nobody considered the obvious solution of building the fence through the car? There are many people on this group who can give competent advice about how to put fence posts through a vehicle chassis. You could paint your half of the car to match the fence, or as you choose. On a more tedious note, let me suggest that you take a little time with this, try to meet and talk to other neighbors, people in the area, ask around- not too intrusively- about this guy, see if you can get a sense of other people's judgment about whether he is someone who can be reasoned with. Of course you don't want to have to choose between exercising your rights and getting along with your neighbor- you may have to, but the more you know about what you're getting into before you do.... does he have a police record? A local reputation? I think we do have to stand up to aggressive, hostile people, but usually better to do it in a low key, non-provocative way. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
In article , Banty says...
In article , Hell Toupee says... MiamiCuse wrote: Abe wrote: I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Just go to the Miami-Dade property records Web site and look up the parcel maps for you and your neighbors house. You'll be able to determine right quick what the property boundaries are. http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp I did that, the aerial maps are not very precise, with tree covering and low resolution, I am only able to tell that there is more room on my side then his side, but nothing that I can use definitively to scale off some distances. I'd suggest you just go down to city hall, give them a copy of the survey (and insist they keep it), and indicate where you intend to set the fence. Have them issue you the proper permit for the fence. With that in hand, send a registered letter to your neighbor including copies of the survey, the plans, and the permit, with a request that his vehicle be removed from your property by a specific date. At that point it'll be up to your neighbor to initiate proceedings to stop you, which will mean hiring a lawyer and maybe having another survey done, too. There's a very good chance that his lawyer would just look at your survey and tell him he's got no case. If you want to play it safer, you could schedule a meeting with the city inspector or engineer, and advise them of the dispute with your neighbor while applying for the permit. That way they won't be caught by surprise if/when the neighbor calls about it. Every city gets calls about fence fights on a fairly regular basis, so their city inspector or engineer could probably advise you as how to handle the dispute. The advantage to this strategy is that you'll have them on your side from the beginning; the disadvantage is that they might want to delay issuing the permit until the dispute is resolved. That's where your providing them with a copy of the survey comes in handy - you're giving them your evidence upfront, which should help them reach their decision. If your neighbor decides to hold a grudge over you making lawful use of your property, don't feel compelled to keep trying to repair the relationship. Just continue to be civil and hope that he eventually simmers down. This is the best post so far. I definately think it's worthwhile pursuing this, and right now, and with as much legal groundwork laid as possible. This isn't likely a neighbor you'd have a good relationship with anyway, and, if you wimp out about this issue, he's likely to take more advantage. I had to do some territory-defending with both my immediate neighbors when I moved in, with one we've long made amends and get along well (and they've even admitted their wrong on the early problems, although that wasn't necessary by me); the other has moved away after having pretty much ****ed the rest of the neighborhood off on other things. Minor correction - I needed to deal with one neighbor when I moved in 12 years ago (the one where we get along fine now), and the other nine years ago after they bought the undeveloped lot next to me and put a house on it. Then decided my backyard was a conduit to wherever they wanted to go, even sending some dozen of guests across it to get to another house's pool. But still. I take a live and let live attitude as much as possible, but the living and let living shouldn't be happening on my property. Cheers, Banty -- |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Of all the advice given, I think the suggestion to offer to bring the
surveyor back to meet with the OP and the neighbor is the best idea. The surveyor can explain how he determined the property line. And hearing it from an expert will give the neighbor an opportunity to back down gracefully, if he so choses. I also have to agree with the comments that it's pretty stupid to close on a property when you can see that there is a disabled car straddling the property line. The time to have dealt with this was before closing, when it was the seller's problem. If the neighbor refuses to meet with the surveyor or still refuses to accept the correct line and move the car, then I would send a registered letter telling him he has a week to remove the car. Then, I'd consult a lawyer. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
On 22 Jun 2006 02:24:30 GMT, "Yenc-Post"
wrote: Abe wrote in : What's stupid about that? It works really well where I am. If a car is "junked" meaning it doesn't have current registration etc., sitting in the same place over 72 hours, the code enforcers (in my area Police Partners) are on it in a hurry. Might work a lot better than grabbing your gun, though maybe not as satisfying. :-) The original post said: "The neighbor has parked a vehicle on the grass with half the car over on my side. The hood is up and the engine is out and he is apparently fixing it in his garage." It's his neighbor's car, and his neighbor works on it. It's not abandoned or junked. Jeez, how about a little reading comprehension? Cheri's so worried about being kicked in the teeth, that she wants to kick her neighbor in the teeth first. My town calls a car like that abandoned and junk. Even if it were a brand new car you can't have it taken apart for more than 7 days. Also we aren't allowed to park on the grass. They may have this regulation in the section on abandoned and junk cars, but that might not mean they call it abandoned or junk. And even if they do, that doesn't mean it is. Calling it junk doesn't make it junk. Calling it abandoned doesn't make it abandoned. Legislatures and city councils are often like people often are, using obfuscatory language to disguise what they are really doing. So is Congress and executive and legislative bodies all over the world. On the other hand, if he wants to complain about it as an eyesore, that's a different story. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
I would never kick someone in the teeth first, but I wouldn't stand
around with a big toothless grin on my face after someone kicked me first either, which the original posters neighbor did, so BOYA. :-) Cheri mm wrote in message ... Cheri's so worried about being kicked in the teeth, that she wants to kick her neighbor in the teeth first. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
On 21 Jun 2006 10:40:28 -0700, "MiamiCuse"
wrote: Then later he came back and seemed upset and says he disagrees with where the property line is. Any advise? MC I haven't read all the responses, so maybe someone has already written this. Perhaps your neighbor's attitude would improve if he finds out that he has nine feet *more* land than he thought on the opposite side of his house. In NY City they have deeds on the web, but I'm guessing you could request his from the local agency that keeps such records. Try to get a hold of it. It should define the property. Maybe all the houses on the block are divided that way. If so you'll have some good news to tell him. Good luck. Greg Guarino |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:07:44 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom
wrote: I would never kick someone in the teeth first, You recommended towing the guy's car away as if it were abandoned, when the OP knows that it isn't abandoned and is the process of being repaired. They're still resolving who owns the land. That's kicking someone in the teeth first. but I wouldn't stand around with a big toothless grin on my face after someone kicked me first either, which the original posters neighbor did, so BOYA. :-) If someone came to you and said he owned a 7 foot strip of what you thought was your land, I'm sure you wouldn't just take his word for it, or the printed report by his surveyor. Would you? What would it take, and how many weeks or months would it take to convince you? Cheri mm wrote in message ... Cheri's so worried about being kicked in the teeth, that she wants to kick her neighbor in the teeth first. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
In article , mm says...
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:07:44 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote: I would never kick someone in the teeth first, You recommended towing the guy's car away as if it were abandoned, when the OP knows that it isn't abandoned and is the process of being repaired. They're still resolving who owns the land. The survey resolved that. It's that one party doesn't want to accept it. That's kicking someone in the teeth first. but I wouldn't stand around with a big toothless grin on my face after someone kicked me first either, which the original posters neighbor did, so BOYA. :-) If someone came to you and said he owned a 7 foot strip of what you thought was your land, I'm sure you wouldn't just take his word for it, or the printed report by his surveyor. Would you? What would it take, and how many weeks or months would it take to convince you? It would take a trip to the town hall for me. It should be on the property map. Banty -- |
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:14:27 -0400, Goedjn wrote:
On 21 Jun 2006 10:40:28 -0700, "MiamiCuse" wrote: Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Any advise? Decide which you value more, a happy neighbor, or your property. You're not going to get both. I think it is still salvagable. Invite him and his wife out to dinner so that "we can talk about things". You'll be paying. He may want to talk about things at home, but he'll do so more willingly, now that like a wolf presenting to the leader of the pack, you've bowed to him a little bit. (Somewhere in this group, I wrote about how I invited my next door neighbor out for a drink so we could discuss things. He didn't want to go and we never discussed things, but he's treated me a lot nicer ever since I invited him.) If you go, choose some place and time where you can sit at the table a long time and where there is room to put out 2 or 3 pages of paper. Have your legal description but the most imporrtant thing will be the map that I think comes with it. Copy that, and on the copy or on your own sketch, put in more landmarks, and make it clear which ones you put in because he's going to doubt them, and you don't want to look like your lying. Maybe your survey is enough, but maybe there is some reason he thinks he owns more that your survey shows. In fact you may want to call your surveyor and ask if he has any advice on how to handle this and how to do so tactfully. Also ask him if he verified that the neigbhbor's description to make sure there is no overlap. I'm not saying that is his job. Sort of I think his job is only to take your description and apply it to the land around your house. But mistakes happen. AFter this n'hood was built, we found out we had built some of it on someone else's land. Until we found out, we were in the position of your neighbor. And it wasn't a matter of moving a car, but of tearing down a house. Of course that wasn't going to happen and both sides were businessmen (who developed the land but didn't live on it) so they worked out a deal for us to give them some of our unbuilt land, in return for keeping the land we had built on. So it's probably your job to do this: Before you do this, you can go to the county clerk's office and make a copy of the deed to his property. A dollar a page,maybe more now and you only need to copy the legal description, and the map if there is any. Now even though it is public record, he may well find your going to the county clerk's office like looking in his wife's underwear drawer, so after you've compared your description with his, and seeing if there is only one segment of your property line that abuts his, or perhsps more, you'll see the legal description of that segment. Mark that too, maybe overdraw it with a colored pencil. And you can point out to him how big his yard is on the other side of his house. (part of my plan is missing here, but never get angry and don't insult him or his intelligence or knowledge of the law. He may have been misled by the seller but don't let it sound like he was a sucker or a fool.) Somewhere in all this, give him time to talk to his real estate agent or the prior owner (he may fess up if he won't lose money) or his lawyer, or to go to the court house and look at his lot description (Don't offer to show him the copy you made. That was just for your knowledge.) and when he gets the idea that he's going to lose, take them out to dinner again, with no papers. Inviting them to your house for dinner might be nice too, unless your house is nicer than his. OTOH, he's had years to fix his up, so maybe it's not. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:31:06 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom
wrote: And you must be...a lawyer. What a terrible, inept, predictable answer. Sure to keep him coming back for more "well reasoned" advice at $350.00 per hour as opposed to all the great advice he got here.:-) You must be smiling because you know that none of the legal advice he got here is reliable. Some posts disagree with other posts, even on the legal issues. How do you suggest he decide who is right? Did you buy title insurance for your house and the lot it is on? If not, what will you do if there is an error in the title? Do you buy homeowner's insurance, health insurance, or life insurance? Cheri Jim McLaughlin wrote in message ... You have a terrible record of asking very important financial and legal questions here. Your first one was your series of questions about IRS liens, IIRC. You have persisted in asking those very important financial and legal questions here with resect to this transaction despite being advised literally dozens of times by at least a half dozen people that you should hire a real estate lawyer in Dade County to get your legal advice. Apparently, you What does the lawyer who represented you in this transaction say about the car on the property which you allege is yours? You noticed the car before the closing and after the survey, right? You told your lawyer about the car before the closing, right? Your lawyer did advise you to get buyer's title insurance, right? You took your lawyer's advice and bought buyer's title insurance, right? Go to your lawyer and the title insurance company and have them handle this. Oh, you didn't hire a lawyer ? You wetre saving money on a multi hundred thousand dollar invesmen, so you didn't want to spend $ 2 grand? You didn't get buyer's title insurance because on a multi hundred thousand dollar investment you wanted to save $ 1,500? Sad. But at least you saved lawyer's fees and the buyer's title insurance premium. You are too inept to own property. -- Jim McLaughlin |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
On 22 Jun 2006 12:54:29 -0700, Banty wrote:
In article , mm says... On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:07:44 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote: I would never kick someone in the teeth first, You recommended towing the guy's car away as if it were abandoned, when the OP knows that it isn't abandoned and is the process of being repaired. They're still resolving who owns the land. The survey resolved that. It's that one party doesn't want to accept it. It's one guy's survey. I might accept it but otoh I might want someone who works for me to confirm it. People lie, people steal, and people bribe other people to help them steal all the time, not to mention the mistakes people make. I don't think the OP is lying, stealing, bribing, or making a mistake. But I haven't spent years believing that what he now says is his land is my land. And it doesn't need to be the OP's mistake. Someone could have made a mistake long ago, so that the legal descriptions of the two properties both include the land currently disputed. It's not surprising to me that the nbor thinks the property line is half-way between the houses. I know that's not required, but that's the way it has been in the first two houses I lived in, afaict by eye-balling it, at least if we mowed the lawn according to the property lines. We had no fences, and we relied on what the previous owners had thought was the case. Just because the OP has complained first, doesn't mean he is right, even if he has good evidence. Sometimes more than one side has good evidence. Sad but true. If it weren't true, in court, they'd often only have to hear the plaintiff's case, and wouldn't need to ask the respondent to give his side. That's kicking someone in the teeth first. but I wouldn't stand around with a big toothless grin on my face after someone kicked me first either, which the original posters neighbor did, so BOYA. :-) If someone came to you and said he owned a 7 foot strip of what you thought was your land, I'm sure you wouldn't just take his word for it, or the printed report by his surveyor. Would you? What would it take, and how many weeks or months would it take to convince you? It would take a trip to the town hall for me. It should be on the property map. Banty |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
They're still resolving who owns the land. The survey resolved that. It's that one party doesn't want to accept it. That's kicking someone in the teeth first. but I wouldn't stand around with a big toothless grin on my face after someone kicked me first either, which the original posters neighbor did, so BOYA. :-) If someone came to you and said he owned a 7 foot strip of what you thought was your land, I'm sure you wouldn't just take his word for it, or the printed report by his surveyor. Would you? What would it take, and how many weeks or months would it take to convince you? It would take a trip to the town hall for me. It should be on the property map. Banty town hall maps are for tax purposes only, in my burg they bear little relation to actual lot lines. Surveyors are known to be quite wrong, how do you think disputes happen? It all depends what marks he goes by. Little note on all the drawings says 'relies on the work of others'. sometimes one must go back to a known good point and start over, sometimes that point is far away and really expensive to measure. How do you know whare the lines are? You think they don't put streets in the wrong place? |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
In article 6jDmg.10872$k27.2895@trndny06, yourname says...
They're still resolving who owns the land. The survey resolved that. It's that one party doesn't want to accept it. That's kicking someone in the teeth first. but I wouldn't stand around with a big toothless grin on my face after someone kicked me first either, which the original posters neighbor did, so BOYA. :-) If someone came to you and said he owned a 7 foot strip of what you thought was your land, I'm sure you wouldn't just take his word for it, or the printed report by his surveyor. Would you? What would it take, and how many weeks or months would it take to convince you? It would take a trip to the town hall for me. It should be on the property map. Banty town hall maps are for tax purposes only, in my burg they bear little relation to actual lot lines. Surveyors are known to be quite wrong, how do you think disputes happen? It all depends what marks he goes by. Little note on all the drawings says 'relies on the work of others'. sometimes one must go back to a known good point and start over, sometimes that point is far away and really expensive to measure. How do you know whare the lines are? You think they don't put streets in the wrong place? You think some folks don't push things for their advantage?? A heck of a lot more likely scenario than plotting streets wrong. OK about property maps (but, if my unfriendly neigbor of mine had understood about easements he would have been calmer about a certain storm drain...), but if you dont' believe surveys, what DO you recognize. Faced with this attitude, then it would come down to a property lawyer for the O.P. Banty -- |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
rosebud wrote in
: I agree with Goedjn and I would not move his car yourself. After determining 100% that you are correct about the property line, I'd send him a certified letter, with return receipt, stating that if the car isn't moved by x date, it will be towed and only he will be responsible for paying to get it out of impound. And ditto on building the fence ASAP, and as high as the law allows on that side. Bonnie And be sure to give him an invoice for half the price of the fence too to really **** him off! Most bylaws require that neighbors sharing a property line must share the cost of the fence. Our bylaw states that half the cost of a chain link fence must be paid but most share costs of wooden privacy fences. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
MiamiCuse wrote: Just bought a property in Miami-Dade County, Florida and want to build a fence along the property line on my side. The neighbor has parked a vehicle on the grass with half the car over on my side. The hood is up and the engine is out and he is apparently fixing it in his garage. He has a few other cars parked on his property that are partially disassembled. I recently had the survey done during the purchase and the surveyor sprayed painted the iron pin locations and one of them is right at a power pole. The survey shows the line is 25 feet from the exterior wall of my house, which is about 7 feet from the exterior wall of his house. When I mentioned to my new neighbor that I am going to build a fence and whether he mind moving his disassembled vehicle out of the way he said yes no problem. Then later he came back and seemed upset and says he disagrees with where the property line is. I showed him the spray painted iron pins. I showed him the power pole from the utility company, I showed him my survey and measured from my wall to the spray painted location - 25 feet. He disagrees. He says it should be half way between the two houses. I stated to hiim this is not the case as the property line is defined in the legal description and this is what the survey is going by, and that if he has a survey of his house he should be able to confirm this. He says he does not have a survey. I said to him he is welcome to hire his own surveyor to check this. I also said when I build the fence, I will be getting a permit and the county will have to approve it and they will not approve it if the fence is on his side. He walked away angry and says he is not going to move the car. Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Any advise? MC Invite him to your house for dinner http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view...sion&Submenu=1 |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Around here, the "corners" of property are pegged with a square 1/2" X 1/2" iron 'pin' driven deep into the ground by the surveyors who laid out the plat for the original developer. If you're lucky, you may have the same. Try digging where the survey says the corner of your property is. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:27:17 GMT, "Rudy"
wrote: Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Around here, the "corners" of property are pegged with a square 1/2" X 1/2" iron 'pin' driven deep into the ground by the surveyors who laid out the plat for the original developer. If you're lucky, you may have the same. Try digging where the survey says the corner of your property is. I have that too. Last year my neighbour got really mad and threatened to sue me because I had some tree branches trimmed off my roof. This summer my neighbour on the other side of my house brought over a metal detector and we found the property marker for my house. The nine trees between the angry neighbour and my house are completely on my side of the property line. |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
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Neighbor disputes my property line location
"Rudy" wrote in message news:Fa3ng.81906$iF6.10288@pd7tw2no... Now I ****ed off a new neighbor and have a mess in my hand. Around here, the "corners" of property are pegged with a square 1/2" X 1/2" iron 'pin' driven deep into the ground by the surveyors who laid out the plat for the original developer. If you're lucky, you may have the same. Try digging where the survey says the corner of your property is. Same here. I can see the 3/4" iron pins. I pointed this out to my neighbor and he says he does not know what those are and ignored the survey. I think I will wait a week and go talk to him again, if that does not work, then I will take a more drastic approach. MC |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
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Neighbor disputes my property line location
Such markers are around here, LA, as well. They usually are not on boundaries, the the boundaries can be measured from them. Unfortunately, earthquakes and trees can move them. Bill -- Ferme le Bush I metal detect for a hobby. I have located many property markers for people. The brass ones are very very easy to find. The steel stakes are just very easy. Steve |
Neighbor disputes my property line location
Abe wrote:
When someone responds to you like he did, just ignore them. He? I've long thought the OP was a she... That "cuse" part misled me... Oh yeah, it's spelled "cooze", sorry. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "What do you expect from a pig but a grunt?" |
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