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Art May 19th 06 03:47 AM

Demolishing tile floor in bathroom
 
We have a poorly executed tile floor in our master bath. Tiles are builder
standard quality on a masonry mud base with a metal grid embedded in the
mud. Unfortunately the jacuzzi in the master bath is cantilevered and the
framing wasn't strong enuf when the jacuzzi was filled with water causing
the tiles to crack the length of the bath. We are going to switch to a
more forgiving flooring material like laminate (my parents have Mannington
laminate in a bathroom for several years now and no problems with it getting
wet from a shower whatsoever). My question is, what would be the
recommended procedure to destroy the bathroom floor tile and mud.
Thanks in advance.



Sacramento Dave May 19th 06 05:06 AM

Demolishing tile floor in bathroom
 

"Art" wrote in message
nk.net...
We have a poorly executed tile floor in our master bath. Tiles are
builder standard quality on a masonry mud base with a metal grid embedded
in the mud. Unfortunately the jacuzzi in the master bath is cantilevered
and the framing wasn't strong enuf when the jacuzzi was filled with water
causing the tiles to crack the length of the bath. We are going to
switch to a more forgiving flooring material like laminate (my parents
have Mannington laminate in a bathroom for several years now and no
problems with it getting wet from a shower whatsoever). My question is,
what would be the recommended procedure to destroy the bathroom floor tile
and mud.
Thanks in advance.

Once you get a starting place You can get a crow-bar under it and
raise as much as you can . When you have pressure on the bar you might have
to hit it with a single jack to crack it. Make sure you are wearing safety
Glasses or a face shield, also what I did was put a old bath over it to stop
the small pieces from flying. If you have access to a diamond saw ( or
grinder with diamond blade) you can make cuts in it to make smaller pieces
to pry up. The saw is a real dust maker , you can hold a shop vac. by the
blade when cutting to control dust.
I would never consider putting any kind of floor in a bathroom that
has a wood core. Just my opinion.




Art May 19th 06 02:29 PM

Demolishing tile floor in bathroom
 

"Sacramento Dave" wrote in message
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"Art" wrote in message
nk.net...
We have a poorly executed tile floor in our master bath. Tiles are
builder standard quality on a masonry mud base with a metal grid embedded
in the mud. Unfortunately the jacuzzi in the master bath is cantilevered
and the framing wasn't strong enuf when the jacuzzi was filled with water
causing the tiles to crack the length of the bath. We are going to
switch to a more forgiving flooring material like laminate (my parents
have Mannington laminate in a bathroom for several years now and no
problems with it getting wet from a shower whatsoever). My question is,
what would be the recommended procedure to destroy the bathroom floor
tile and mud.
Thanks in advance.

Once you get a starting place You can get a crow-bar under it and
raise as much as you can . When you have pressure on the bar you might
have to hit it with a single jack to crack it. Make sure you are wearing
safety Glasses or a face shield, also what I did was put a old bath over
it to stop the small pieces from flying. If you have access to a diamond
saw ( or grinder with diamond blade) you can make cuts in it to make
smaller pieces to pry up. The saw is a real dust maker , you can hold a
shop vac. by the blade when cutting to control dust.
I would never consider putting any kind of floor in a bathroom
that has a wood core. Just my opinion.


I was thinking of the diamond saw too. Thanks.

I would normally agree with you on the wood core floor but the Mannington
click laminate has performed very well. We had it put into 2 bathrooms in
my parents condo to replace vinyl. They are 80 and 90 years of age
respectively and I am sure they get the bathroom floor extremely wet after a
bath or shower but so far in 3 years it still looks brand new. I talked to
Mannington before getting theirs installed and they told me all edges were
well treated against water and held up far better than the old glue floors
which depended on installer's abilities. All you have to do is put silicone
caulk at the edges which is then covered by moldings and it should hold up
to everything but flooding according to Mannington.



No May 19th 06 02:41 PM

Demolishing tile floor in bathroom
 
Art wrote:
We have a poorly executed tile floor in our master bath. Tiles are builder
standard quality on a masonry mud base with a metal grid embedded in the
mud. Unfortunately the jacuzzi in the master bath is cantilevered and the
framing wasn't strong enuf when the jacuzzi was filled with water causing
the tiles to crack the length of the bath. We are going to switch to a
more forgiving flooring material like laminate (my parents have Mannington
laminate in a bathroom for several years now and no problems with it getting
wet from a shower whatsoever). My question is, what would be the
recommended procedure to destroy the bathroom floor tile and mud.
Thanks in advance.


hammer, masons chisel and crow bar will do it. If your floor is like the
last one I ripped up the tops of the joists will not be even, flat or
level. You need even and flat, level is a bonus if you can do it. Then
attach your plywood subfloor (Hey, while you are there fix the support
issue!) Then your new floor. Use vinyl flooring - Go to a flooring
showroom - you will be surprised at how nice some of these look these days!

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Art May 19th 06 03:12 PM

Demolishing tile floor in bathroom
 

"No" wrote in message ...
Art wrote:
We have a poorly executed tile floor in our master bath. Tiles are
builder standard quality on a masonry mud base with a metal grid embedded
in the mud. Unfortunately the jacuzzi in the master bath is cantilevered
and the framing wasn't strong enuf when the jacuzzi was filled with water
causing the tiles to crack the length of the bath. We are going to
switch to a more forgiving flooring material like laminate (my parents
have Mannington laminate in a bathroom for several years now and no
problems with it getting wet from a shower whatsoever). My question is,
what would be the recommended procedure to destroy the bathroom floor
tile and mud.
Thanks in advance.

hammer, masons chisel and crow bar will do it. If your floor is like the
last one I ripped up the tops of the joists will not be even, flat or
level. You need even and flat, level is a bonus if you can do it. Then
attach your plywood subfloor (Hey, while you are there fix the support
issue!) Then your new floor. Use vinyl flooring - Go to a flooring
showroom - you will be surprised at how nice some of these look these
days!



I was thinking of bolting some steel in to improve the support and to
install the new flooring while the jacuzzi was filled with water but I still
wouldn't trust a bathroom with a cantilevered jacuzzi with a ceramic tile
floor. The cracked tile was kind of interesting. The glaze does not have a
visible gap in the crack. But there is a subtle line (crack) the length of
the bathroom floor.



No May 19th 06 09:00 PM

Demolishing tile floor in bathroom
 
Art wrote:
"No" wrote in message ...
Art wrote:
We have a poorly executed tile floor in our master bath. Tiles are
builder standard quality on a masonry mud base with a metal grid embedded
in the mud. Unfortunately the jacuzzi in the master bath is cantilevered
and the framing wasn't strong enuf when the jacuzzi was filled with water
causing the tiles to crack the length of the bath. We are going to
switch to a more forgiving flooring material like laminate (my parents
have Mannington laminate in a bathroom for several years now and no
problems with it getting wet from a shower whatsoever). My question is,
what would be the recommended procedure to destroy the bathroom floor
tile and mud.
Thanks in advance.

hammer, masons chisel and crow bar will do it. If your floor is like the
last one I ripped up the tops of the joists will not be even, flat or
level. You need even and flat, level is a bonus if you can do it. Then
attach your plywood subfloor (Hey, while you are there fix the support
issue!) Then your new floor. Use vinyl flooring - Go to a flooring
showroom - you will be surprised at how nice some of these look these
days!



I was thinking of bolting some steel in to improve the support and to
install the new flooring while the jacuzzi was filled with water but I still
wouldn't trust a bathroom with a cantilevered jacuzzi with a ceramic tile
floor. The cracked tile was kind of interesting. The glaze does not have a
visible gap in the crack. But there is a subtle line (crack) the length of
the bathroom floor.


Yea, certainly something was flexing ever so slightly. I'm not sure you
would need steel, just proper framing and subfloor will do. Or, as I
posted before you could just go to sheet goods. (From a guy in the
middle of a major tile project)

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