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Ross Payne May 10th 06 01:15 AM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
I had my a/c (Trane) checked today, and it needed just under a pound of
Freon. It leaked out over the course of a year (I know this because it was
serviced a year ago). The leak is probably coming from the coils, which I
would rather hold off on replacing for a few months. My question is this:
when Freon leaks from the system, where does it go? Is it possible for it to
get into the air that blows into the house?

--
Ross Payne



Pete C. May 10th 06 01:51 AM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
Ross Payne wrote:

I had my a/c (Trane) checked today, and it needed just under a pound of
Freon. It leaked out over the course of a year (I know this because it was
serviced a year ago). The leak is probably coming from the coils, which I
would rather hold off on replacing for a few months. My question is this:
when Freon leaks from the system, where does it go? Is it possible for it to
get into the air that blows into the house?

--
Ross Payne


It goes into the environment immediate surrounding the leak which in the
case of the evaporator coil is in the air handler where it will be blown
into the house.

Other than the wasted Freon and perhaps EPA police, why would you care?
Freon is 100% harmless to pretty much everything unless it's in such a
quantity that it displaces oxygen which is real unlikely in a house with
a house sized A/C unit. Indeed Freon is a component in most aerosol
inhalers which are intended for direct inhalation.

Pete C.

Ross Payne May 10th 06 02:20 AM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
Thanks Pete. I was not aware that Freon was so harmless, and thought it
might be toxic. My intent is to have the coils replaced, but just not right
now (cost for one thing, and also it isn't leaking that bad).


Ross
"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Ross Payne wrote:

I had my a/c (Trane) checked today, and it needed just under a pound of
Freon. It leaked out over the course of a year (I know this because it
was
serviced a year ago). The leak is probably coming from the coils, which I
would rather hold off on replacing for a few months. My question is this:
when Freon leaks from the system, where does it go? Is it possible for it
to
get into the air that blows into the house?

--
Ross Payne


It goes into the environment immediate surrounding the leak which in the
case of the evaporator coil is in the air handler where it will be blown
into the house.

Other than the wasted Freon and perhaps EPA police, why would you care?
Freon is 100% harmless to pretty much everything unless it's in such a
quantity that it displaces oxygen which is real unlikely in a house with
a house sized A/C unit. Indeed Freon is a component in most aerosol
inhalers which are intended for direct inhalation.

Pete C.




RP May 10th 06 03:04 AM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 

"Ross Payne" wrote in message
...
I had my a/c (Trane) checked today, and it needed just under a pound of
Freon. It leaked out over the course of a year (I know this because it
was serviced a year ago). The leak is probably coming from the coils,
which I would rather hold off on replacing for a few months. My
question is this: when Freon leaks from the system, where does it go?
Is it possible for it to get into the air that blows into the house?


One pound of refrigerant leaking out over a one year period into the
living space means that only 0.0027 pounds per day are released into
that space. Assuming one air change per day in the house (which is
minimal) there would only be this much refrigerant suspended in the air
at any given time. In contrast, one cubic foot of air weighs about
0.073 pounds, and thus there is about 27 times more air (by weight) in
one cubic foot of the living space than there is refrigerant within the
entire house. If a house is 2200 square ft, with 8 foot ceilings, then
it contains about 16,000 cubic feet of air (subtracting fixtures and
wall space). 1/43,200 of the volume in that home is occupied by
refrigerant. That's 0.002 percent, or about 20 ppm (parts per million).
That air is composed primarily of nitrogen, an inert gas, which would
suffocate you if not for the oxygen suspended in it. Refrigerant is no
more toxic than nitrogen to breath. If you inhaled the entire suspended
quantity of refrigerant in the house in one single breath, minus any
suspended toxins such as glue vapor, methane,and other construction and
cleaning related pollutants, then you would have breathed a breath of
air that is 100,000 times healthier than the toxin polluted air that the
house already contains with our without the refrigerant leak. But if the
trace of refrigerant in your breathing air worries you, then you should
probably move out of the house until the coil is replaced :)

Richard Perry



Pete C. May 10th 06 03:10 AM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
Ross Payne wrote:

Thanks Pete. I was not aware that Freon was so harmless, and thought it
might be toxic. My intent is to have the coils replaced, but just not right
now (cost for one thing, and also it isn't leaking that bad).

Ross


Many of the replacements for Freon are more toxic and less efficient
than the Freon was.

If the location of the leak can be determined it may be possible to
evacuate the system, braze the leak shut and recharge the system. I've
seen it done on a large computer room A/C unit where the leak was caused
by a line rubbing against part of the frame as opposed to corrosion. The
lines were otherwise sound and the line was secured so it couldn't rub
again.

Pete C.

Richard J Kinch May 10th 06 05:56 AM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
Pete C. writes:

If the location of the leak can be determined it may be possible to
evacuate the system, braze the leak shut and recharge the system.


Not typically practical in an evaporator coil.

Tom The Great May 10th 06 06:04 PM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:51:27 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Ross Payne wrote:

I had my a/c (Trane) checked today, and it needed just under a pound of
Freon. It leaked out over the course of a year (I know this because it was
serviced a year ago). The leak is probably coming from the coils, which I
would rather hold off on replacing for a few months. My question is this:
when Freon leaks from the system, where does it go? Is it possible for it to
get into the air that blows into the house?

--
Ross Payne


It goes into the environment immediate surrounding the leak which in the
case of the evaporator coil is in the air handler where it will be blown
into the house.

Other than the wasted Freon and perhaps EPA police, why would you care?


Cost of freon would cause me to care. Which would make me ask the
technician where the freon leaked. Many news companies do hidden
camera checks on HVAC technicians billing for unneeded freon
recharges.


Today's leak detectors work great at finding very tiny leaks.

Freon is 100% harmless to pretty much everything unless it's in such a
quantity that it displaces oxygen which is real unlikely in a house with
a house sized A/C unit. Indeed Freon is a component in most aerosol
inhalers which are intended for direct inhalation.

Pete C.



tom

Stormin Mormon May 12th 06 01:28 PM

Freon Leak in Central A/C
 
It can either go into the house, or outdoors. Yes, it can go into t he
air which blows into the house.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Ross Payne" wrote in message
...
I had my a/c (Trane) checked today, and it needed just under a pound
of
Freon. It leaked out over the course of a year (I know this because it
was
serviced a year ago). The leak is probably coming from the coils,
which I
would rather hold off on replacing for a few months. My question is
this:
when Freon leaks from the system, where does it go? Is it possible for
it to
get into the air that blows into the house?

--
Ross Payne





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