Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they really
work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are copperheads a
protected species?

Bob

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:06 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they really
work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are copperheads a
protected species?

Bob


A copperhead (Florida) will come at you... don't shoot them and be
careful in their turf you can surprise them..... Call a local state
office if you have serious problems.

You'll amazed at how high I "could jump" that day face to snake with a
copperhead.

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:06 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they
really
work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are copperheads a
protected species?

Bob


A copperhead (Florida) will come at you... don't shoot them and be
careful in their turf you can surprise them..... Call a local state
office if you have serious problems.

You'll amazed at how high I "could jump" that day face to snake with a
copperhead.

Oren

In Tennessee, then entire state is their habitat. If I called the county
agent every time I saw a copperhead, the county agent would soon think I was
the pest. Most folks around here kill them, but snakes are good for rodent
control. I'd prefer find a way to keep them away from the lawn. Rattlesnakes
tend to be a problem, too, but not as bad. The lawnmower usually wins when
there is a chance encounter while cutting the lawn.

Bob

RobertM wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they really
work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are copperheads a
protected species?

Bob



First of all, if any snake in my yard is a protected species they are
going to get one of my protected buckshot rounds !!

I would try the snake repellants and I've also heard that spreading a
lot of mothballs helps too.

I keep a sharp shovel on hand in case, but that shotgun is always a
backup -- protected or not !

J

The only protection I give a posinous snake is to protect from biting
anyone and that is by killing the thing.

Oren wrote in
:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:06 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various
repellants advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake
repellants? Do they really work as advertised or is it better to
simply shoot them? Are copperheads a protected species?

Bob


A copperhead (Florida) will come at you...

I thought that was COTTONMOUTH snakes?



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

I carry a .357 loaded with snake shot, I dispatch any dangerous snakes that
are invading the saftey zone of me or my family (dog included). I carry my
gun whenever I go fishing too..

Searcher

In article ,
says...
Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they really
work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are copperheads a
protected species?


If placed under a shed or deck they can help for a short term, if placed
as barrier so they won't cross, I have never heard of them being
effective.
--
Lar

Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
he surely would of swatted those two flies.

to email....get rid of the BUGS

"Joey" wrote in message
...
RobertM wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they
really work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are
copperheads a protected species?

Bob

First of all, if any snake in my yard is a protected species they are
going to get one of my protected buckshot rounds !!

I would try the snake repellants and I've also heard that spreading a lot
of mothballs helps too.

I keep a sharp shovel on hand in case, but that shotgun is always a
backup -- protected or not !


I tried spreading several boxes of mothballs when I lived in Arizona. I
think the rattlesnakes eat mothballs. It never kept them away. This ecology
thing all sounds nice but I'm inclined to think that humans are also a
protected species. The people who make these laws live in fancy penthouses
and never encountered a poisonous snake while mowing their lawn. I'll buy
some repellant and try it but I'll also have backup.

Bob

YEah, cottonmouths are famous for attacking, I was bitten in the hand trying
get away from a CM. It was not fun, remote camping area/ helicopter/ 8 hours
in the hospital all for " well, it seems that you should be just fine, snake
sometime do not inject everytime they bite" Thank God for that. I must hane
gotten something cause I did get nausea and felt very wierd, but nothing
like a full blown snake bite.
BTW, thats why I carry a .357 now!

Searcher

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:53:21 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:

YEah, cottonmouths are famous for attacking, I was bitten in the hand trying
get away from a CM. It was not fun, remote camping area/ helicopter/ 8 hours
in the hospital all for " well, it seems that you should be just fine, snake
sometime do not inject everytime they bite" Thank God for that. I must hane
gotten something cause I did get nausea and felt very wierd, but nothing
like a full blown snake bite.
BTW, thats why I carry a .357 now!

No offense meant. I'm really curious and you're the first person I
could ask.

Would you have time for more than one bullet? If not, what are the
odds you could hit a moving snake? What are the odds that you could
hit a snake that was lying still? You must mean that you're planning
to empty the gun at it, right? Will the noise make it more
aggressive?

Searcher

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:03:01 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:


"Joey" wrote in message
...
RobertM wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they
really work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are
copperheads a protected species?

Bob

First of all, if any snake in my yard is a protected species they are
going to get one of my protected buckshot rounds !!

I would try the snake repellants and I've also heard that spreading a lot
of mothballs helps too.

I keep a sharp shovel on hand in case, but that shotgun is always a
backup -- protected or not !


I tried spreading several boxes of mothballs when I lived in Arizona. I
think the rattlesnakes eat mothballs. It never kept them away.

Arizona is a very big state. I would think you would need thousands
of tons.

....
Bob

mm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:53:21 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:

Would you have time for more than one bullet? If not, what are the
odds you could hit a moving snake? What are the odds that you could
hit a snake that was lying still? You must mean that you're planning
to empty the gun at it, right? Will the noise make it more
aggressive?


Think shotgun. 12 gauge. 7 shots. From 15 feet.

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:03:01 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:


"Joey" wrote in message
...
RobertM wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various
repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they
really work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are
copperheads a protected species?

Bob

First of all, if any snake in my yard is a protected species they are
going to get one of my protected buckshot rounds !!

I would try the snake repellants and I've also heard that spreading a
lot
of mothballs helps too.

I keep a sharp shovel on hand in case, but that shotgun is always a
backup -- protected or not !


I tried spreading several boxes of mothballs when I lived in Arizona. I
think the rattlesnakes eat mothballs. It never kept them away.

Arizona is a very big state. I would think you would need thousands
of tons.

...
Bob

So that's what I did wrong. I only put mothballs around the outside
of my house. Most of the rattlers killed out there were road kill. Then the
buzzards cleaned up the mess.

Bob

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:14:02 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

mm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:53:21 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:

Would you have time for more than one bullet? If not, what are the
odds you could hit a moving snake? What are the odds that you could
hit a snake that was lying still? You must mean that you're planning
to empty the gun at it, right? Will the noise make it more
aggressive?


Think shotgun. 12 gauge. 7 shots. From 15 feet.

The previous poster, Searcher, said .357. That means a pistol, right?

I didn't know there was a pistol that shot shot. Until tonight.

I had never heard of a shotgun shell for a pistol before tonight.

Right?

mm wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:14:02 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:


mm wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:53:21 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:

Would you have time for more than one bullet? If not, what are the
odds you could hit a moving snake? What are the odds that you could
hit a snake that was lying still? You must mean that you're planning
to empty the gun at it, right? Will the noise make it more
aggressive?

Think shotgun. 12 gauge. 7 shots. From 15 feet.


The previous poster, Searcher, said .357. That means a pistol, right?

I didn't know there was a pistol that shot shot. Until tonight.

I had never heard of a shotgun shell for a pistol before tonight.

Right?


Right: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=9478
--
Grandpa

It (the snake) would be dead on the first shot, as far as the noise making
it mad, I think not, Probably never even feel the shot that killed it
(snakes don't hear).

CCI makes shot shots for many caliber pistols

Searcher

I've used a couple of types of repellamnts and they are not fool proof.
They may discourage them but not absolutely repel them. One of the
powderted ones is nothing more than glorified moth balls
and the liquid has an odor which is somewhat likle a combo of ginger
and pepper. I must say that the nonvenomous species seem to be less
repelled than the poisonous ones.

mm wrote in
:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:53:21 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:

YEah, cottonmouths are famous for attacking, I was bitten in the hand
trying get away from a CM. It was not fun, remote camping area/
helicopter/ 8 hours in the hospital all for " well, it seems that you
should be just fine, snake sometime do not inject everytime they bite"
Thank God for that. I must hane gotten something cause I did get
nausea and felt very wierd, but nothing like a full blown snake bite.
BTW, thats why I carry a .357 now!

No offense meant. I'm really curious and you're the first person I
could ask.

Would you have time for more than one bullet? If not, what are the
odds you could hit a moving snake? What are the odds that you could
hit a snake that was lying still? You must mean that you're planning
to empty the gun at it, right? Will the noise make it more
aggressive?


You can buy shotshells for pistols.I believe they were created specifically
for shooting snakes.
Loadout would be;1st round is shot,the rest your usual self-defense load.
(for both 2 and 4-legged animals)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

mm wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:14:02 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:


mm wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:53:21 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:

Would you have time for more than one bullet? If not, what are the
odds you could hit a moving snake? What are the odds that you could
hit a snake that was lying still? You must mean that you're planning
to empty the gun at it, right? Will the noise make it more
aggressive?

Think shotgun. 12 gauge. 7 shots. From 15 feet.


The previous poster, Searcher, said .357. That means a pistol, right?

I didn't know there was a pistol that shot shot. Until tonight.

I had never heard of a shotgun shell for a pistol before tonight.

Right?

back in the early 80's i bought some 38 shot. in fact i just found them.
i paid 3.95 for 10 38/357 shotshells made by cci-speer. they work i used
them for varmets in my garden out in the country. alternated shot then
regular in a 38.

RobertM wrote:
Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various
repellants advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake
repellants? Do they really work as advertised or is it better to
simply shoot them? Are copperheads a protected species?

Bob

Get a mongoose. Maybe get a couple and sell their offspring to friends
and neighbors

--
dadiOH
____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:22:48 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:

In Tennessee, then entire state is their habitat. If I called the county
agent every time I saw a copperhead, the county agent would soon think I was
the pest. Most folks around here kill them, but snakes are good for rodent
control. I'd prefer find a way to keep them away from the lawn. Rattlesnakes
tend to be a problem, too, but not as bad. The lawnmower usually wins when
there is a chance encounter while cutting the lawn.

Sounds like you have your share. I was on the Cumberland River
(Jackson County) last week. I happened to ask about the varieties of
snakes there. It seemed moccasins where the big deal. I didn't hear
about copperheads there, but the terrain would be ideal for them.

If I can't avoid them, yes I would kill them if necessary.

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

On 13 Mar 2006 00:47:31 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:


A copperhead (Florida) will come at you...

I thought that was COTTONMOUTH snakes?

Both will come at you. I encountered a copperhead as I crossed a
stream and it came at me, scared hell out of me.

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

This is Turtle.

There is two repellants .

Moth balls and a shotgun. Mothballs does a better job.

TURTLE

In article , Jim Yanik wrote:

You can buy shotshells for pistols.I believe they were created specifically
for shooting snakes.

Yep -- in fact, it's called "snake shot".

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Oren" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:22:48 -0600, "RobertM"
wrote:

In Tennessee, then entire state is their habitat. If I called the
county
agent every time I saw a copperhead, the county agent would soon think I
was
the pest. Most folks around here kill them, but snakes are good for rodent
control. I'd prefer find a way to keep them away from the lawn.
Rattlesnakes
tend to be a problem, too, but not as bad. The lawnmower usually wins when
there is a chance encounter while cutting the lawn.

Sounds like you have your share. I was on the Cumberland River
(Jackson County) last week. I happened to ask about the varieties of
snakes there. It seemed moccasins where the big deal. I didn't hear
about copperheads there, but the terrain would be ideal for them.

If I can't avoid them, yes I would kill them if necessary.

Oren

Gainesboro, nice little town. Yes, Jackson County has an abundance of
copperheads and rattlers. It's also a hotspot for the brown recluse. If the
snakes don't get ya, the spiders will. I'm an hour east of there, a few
more mountains, a few more snakes.

Bob

"TURTLE" wrote in message
ups.com...
This is Turtle.

There is two repellants .

Moth balls and a shotgun. Mothballs does a better job.

TURTLE

Never had any luck with the mothballs. It's also difficult to harvest
them. Need one person to hold the wings, another to use tweezers to pull
them off. :-)

Bob

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:06 -0600, RobertM wrote:

Saw my first copperhead of the season today. I've seen various repellants
advertised. Anyone have any experience with snake repellants? Do they really
work as advertised or is it better to simply shoot them? Are copperheads a
protected species?

Never heard of any repellent that worked - many claims, but no scientific
proof. Best bet is to get rid of food supply and shelter. Copperheads, along
with other pit vipers, feed mainly on warm blooded animals - mainly rodents -
so make sure you don't have anything in the area to attract rodents and you
should find that you have fewer copperheads, and snakes in general.

Remove rock and brush piles to a location away from your yard to encourage
any snakes that remain (and you do need some to keep pest populations in
check) to stay away from the house.

When you've done the above, kill any poisonous snakes that endanger you, your
family or pets. Do not kill snakes indiscriminately as some - like king
snakes - will help to keep the poisonous ones in check.



Later, Mike
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-----------------------------------


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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:46:20 GMT, Grandpa wrote:



The previous poster, Searcher, said .357. That means a pistol, right?
I didn't know there was a pistol that shot shot. Until tonight.
I had never heard of a shotgun shell for a pistol before tonight.
Right?


Right: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=9478

Thanks, and thanks to all. I learn something new every day.

And I wasn't making things up in thinking it would be hard to shoot a
snake with a bullet.

Grandpa

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:44 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , Jim Yanik wrote:

You can buy shotshells for pistols.I believe they were created specifically
for shooting snakes.

Yep -- in fact, it's called "snake shot".

Another question about guns and the movies.

In the movies sometimes, the hero is underwater and he gets his gun
out and shoots someone. Once I even saw him shoot someone when the
gun was still underwater.

Doesn't the barrel fill with water, and isn't it dangerous to shoot
the gun when there is such an obstruction? Will the bullet get out
of the barrel at all?

Even if the water is poured out, there will still be a thin layer or a
few drops of water sticking to the inside of the barrel. Is there a
problem shooting the gun until that evaporates? After all, there is
not that much space between the bullet and the barrel.

mm wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:44 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:


In article , Jim Yanik wrote:


You can buy shotshells for pistols.I believe they were created specifically
for shooting snakes.

Yep -- in fact, it's called "snake shot".


Another question about guns and the movies.

In the movies sometimes, the hero is underwater and he gets his gun
out and shoots someone. Once I even saw him shoot someone when the
gun was still underwater.

Doesn't the barrel fill with water, and isn't it dangerous to shoot
the gun when there is such an obstruction? Will the bullet get out
of the barrel at all?

Even if the water is poured out, there will still be a thin layer or a
few drops of water sticking to the inside of the barrel. Is there a
problem shooting the gun until that evaporates? After all, there is
not that much space between the bullet and the barrel.

They also show bullets "sparking" on various metals too. Movies have
their own "reality distortion" that bears little resemblance to "real
life." The fear of firearms is fed largely by the movie industries'
depiction of guns and bullets as they wish they were rather than how
they really are.
--
Grandpa

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:39:39 -0500, mm
wrote:

I didn't know there was a pistol that shot shot. Until tonight.

I had never heard of a shotgun shell for a pistol before tonight.

"Snake shot" been around for many years (50+), that I know of
personally.

Ever heard of "rock salt" being placed into a shot gun shell (after
pellets removed)? Farmers packed shells with rock salt to shoot
people stealing their produce (non-lethal). It's said to burn like
hell under the skin and is plucked out with tweezers, so I'm told...
(rubbin' salt in the wound)

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

Right: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=9478

Thanks, and thanks to all. I learn something new every day.

And I wasn't making things up in thinking it would be hard to shoot a
snake with a bullet.

Not if you're Jed Clampett.


Rumor has it that black-powder pistol balls move
slowly enough that rattlesnakes see the ball coming,
and strike at it. I have no idea if that's true,
but it makes a good story.

Goedjn wrote:
Right: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=9478

Thanks, and thanks to all. I learn something new every day.

And I wasn't making things up in thinking it would be hard to shoot a
snake with a bullet.


Not if you're Jed Clampett.



Rumor has it that black-powder pistol balls move
slowly enough that rattlesnakes see the ball coming,
and strike at it. I have no idea if that's true,
but it makes a good story.


Won't make much difference to the shooter, because
rumor has it that those snakes can 75 feet and
swallow a man whole in 1/4 second. Wonder if the
guy can pull the trigger before he is swallowed.

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:41:57 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

Goedjn wrote:
Right: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=9478

Thanks, and thanks to all. I learn something new every day.

And I wasn't making things up in thinking it would be hard to shoot a
snake with a bullet.


Not if you're Jed Clampett.



Rumor has it that black-powder pistol balls move
slowly enough that rattlesnakes see the ball coming,
and strike at it. I have no idea if that's true,
but it makes a good story.


Won't make much difference to the shooter, because
rumor has it that those snakes can 75 feet and
swallow a man whole in 1/4 second. Wonder if the
guy can pull the trigger before he is swallowed.

Maybe he can pull the trigger after he is swallowed, and make himself
a way out.

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:34:16 GMT, Grandpa wrote:

mm wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:44 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:


In article , Jim Yanik wrote:


You can buy shotshells for pistols.I believe they were created specifically
for shooting snakes.

Yep -- in fact, it's called "snake shot".


Another question about guns and the movies.

In the movies sometimes, the hero is underwater and he gets his gun
out and shoots someone. Once I even saw him shoot someone when the
gun was still underwater.

Doesn't the barrel fill with water, and isn't it dangerous to shoot
the gun when there is such an obstruction? Will the bullet get out
of the barrel at all?

Even if the water is poured out, there will still be a thin layer or a
few drops of water sticking to the inside of the barrel. Is there a
problem shooting the gun until that evaporates? After all, there is
not that much space between the bullet and the barrel.

They also show bullets "sparking" on various metals too. Movies have
their own "reality distortion" that bears little resemblance to "real
life." The fear of firearms is fed largely by the movie industries'
depiction of guns and bullets as they wish they were rather than how
they really are.

Good point.

Remmember: Guns don't shoot people. Dick Cheney does.

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:10:39 GMT, "dadiOH"
wrote:

simply shoot them? Are copperheads a protected species?

Bob

Get a mongoose. Maybe get a couple and sell their offspring to friends
and neighbors

If you can't get a mongoose, get a monkey and a goose.

--
dadiOH

be sure its a copper head. garder snakes are mistaken for copper
heads.the garder has a allmost yellow gold stripe all the way down its
back,copperhead doesnt. garders are very helpful in controlling mice and
dont bite humans.im sure you could do a search. coppers are usually
around water.lucas

http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm