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It is really hard to follow a lot of posts these days from people who
do not include at least part of the posts they are replying to. My news reader does not make it easy for me to find those posts. When I've marked posts as "read", they do not show again -- without some effort. And the idea of news group postings is to be able to scan as quickly as possible. It is normal, expected, and helpful for follow-up postings to include enough of the previous thread to give explanation of the topic. I am posting this only to help those who are not (yet) aware of what they are doing. Thanks for reading. --Phil -- Phil Munro Dept of Electrical & Computer Engin Youngstown State University Youngstown, Ohio 44555 |
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It is really hard to follow a lot of posts these days from people who do not include at least part of the posts they are replying to. My news reader does not make it easy for me to find those posts. When I've marked posts as "read", they do not show again -- without some effort. And the idea of news group postings is to be able to scan as quickly as possible. It is normal, expected, and helpful for follow-up postings to include enough of the previous thread to give explanation of the topic. I am posting this only to help those who are not (yet) aware of what they are doing. Thanks for reading. --Phil A lot of these people are on Google Groups where they see whole threads. The rest are just clueless. There's a page on Google where you can ask them to implement quoting as default behavior. It's a simple form to fill out. |
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A lot of these people are on Google Groups where they see
whole threads. The rest are just clueless. There's a page on Google where you can ask them to implement quoting as default behavior. It's a simple form to fill out. Google groups used to auto-quote. That stopped being automatic awhile back. I would suppose that is accounting for the upswing. To "quote" from google groups, you need to click on the show options "option" in the post you want to quote and then click on the blue "reply" link at the top of the box that opens.....It's explained in the Help section of google groups.... |
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:26:28 -0500, Phil Munro
wrote: It is really hard to follow a lot of posts these days from people who do not include at least part of the posts they are replying to. My news reader does not make it easy for me to find those posts. When I've marked posts as "read", they do not show again -- without some effort. And the idea of news group postings is to be able to scan as quickly as possible. It is normal, expected, and helpful for follow-up postings to include enough of the previous thread to give explanation of the topic. I am posting this only to help those who are not (yet) aware of what they are doing. Thanks for reading. --Phil Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? |
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:26:28 -0500, Phil Munro wrote: It is really hard to follow a lot of posts these days from people who do not include at least part of the posts they are replying to. My news reader does not make it easy for me to find those posts. When I've marked posts as "read", they do not show again -- without some effort. And the idea of news group postings is to be able to scan as quickly as possible. It is normal, expected, and helpful for follow-up postings to include enough of the previous thread to give explanation of the topic. I am posting this only to help those who are not (yet) aware of what they are doing. Thanks for reading. --Phil Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? I use what I use, and since my life does not revolve around the few news groups I scan, I continue to go with what I use -- which does a lot of things nicely. But let's not get into what we all should be using for our browsers/readers. Rather, it is a normal thing to give a reference to thread info, I think. As always, thanks to all who comment on this. --Phil -- Phil Munro Dept of Electrical & Computer Engin Youngstown State University Youngstown, Ohio 44555 |
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Phil Munro wrote:
snip Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? I use what I use, and since my life does not revolve around the few news groups I scan, I continue to go with what I use -- which does a lot of things nicely. But let's not get into what we all should be using for our browsers/readers. Rather, it is a normal thing to give a reference to thread info, I think. As always, thanks to all who comment on this. --Phil Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue |
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there's a bunch of weather websites where you enter the city for local
weather reports. "Palindr˜»me" wrote in message ... Phil Munro wrote: snip Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? I use what I use, and since my life does not revolve around the few news groups I scan, I continue to go with what I use -- which does a lot of things nicely. But let's not get into what we all should be using for our browsers/readers. Rather, it is a normal thing to give a reference to thread info, I think. As always, thanks to all who comment on this. --Phil Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue |
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In article , sb382638
@hotmail.com.invalid says... Phil Munro wrote: snip Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? I use what I use, and since my life does not revolve around the few news groups I scan, I continue to go with what I use -- which does a lot of things nicely. But let's not get into what we all should be using for our browsers/readers. Rather, it is a normal thing to give a reference to thread info, I think. As always, thanks to all who comment on this. --Phil Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, Euclid is a 'burb of Cleveland and about 80mi. from Youngstown. Weather? What time of day? Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Quite different. Myrtle Beach is 700mi south (a little east). Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. No alcohol Naw! I live about 700mi north-east of Euclid and so far this winter it's been fairly warm (maybe 40F warmer than last year today). Who knows what it'll be in a couple of weeks though. Cleveland is on Lake Erie so tends to get "lake-effect snow", so some snow can be expected if you're there for any time. -- Keith -- Keith |
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bill allemann wrote:
there's a bunch of weather websites where you enter the city for local weather reports. Thanks. I have - but they aren't what I expected. Everyone has told me January in Ohio is all snow and bitterly cold but the present forecasts look positively balmy. So I was just looking for some local input and a post from someone who looked to be in the neighbourhood looked a good opportunity to find out. Sorry. -- Sue |
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Keith Williams wrote:
In article , sb382638 @hotmail.com.invalid says... Phil Munro wrote: snip Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? I use what I use, and since my life does not revolve around the few news groups I scan, I continue to go with what I use -- which does a lot of things nicely. But let's not get into what we all should be using for our browsers/readers. Rather, it is a normal thing to give a reference to thread info, I think. As always, thanks to all who comment on this. --Phil Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, Euclid is a 'burb of Cleveland and about 80mi. from Youngstown. Weather? What time of day? Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Quite different. Myrtle Beach is 700mi south (a little east). Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. No alcohol Naw! I live about 700mi north-east of Euclid and so far this winter it's been fairly warm (maybe 40F warmer than last year today). Who knows what it'll be in a couple of weeks though. Cleveland is on Lake Erie so tends to get "lake-effect snow", so some snow can be expected if you're there for any time. Thanks. Your last paragraph explains things perfectly. I was finding it hard to reconcile the apparent weather with what I had been told. If it is 40F warmer than a year ago, that explains a lot. Wow. That is some difference. Dragging back memories of school geography, I thought the big US continental land mass meant that weather conditions tended to have short-term stability and so the weather in a couple of weeks time will be much the same as it is now.. -- Sue |
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It's easy. Just top post and snip all the relevent text.
Then crosspost, ya moron. Steve ;-) |
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But, ... , see? ... WHO is the moron you are replying to? Is it I,
or is it someone else? And, you are right that editing replys is always important, but taking out EVERYTHING can make it imposible to follow the thread sometimes. --Phil Steve B wrote: It's easy. Just top post and snip all the relevent text. Then crosspost, ya moron. Steve ;-) -- Phil Munro Dept of Electrical & Computer Engin Youngstown State University Youngstown, Ohio 44555 |
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@hotmail.com.invalid says... Keith Williams wrote: In article , sb382638 @hotmail.com.invalid says... Phil Munro wrote: snip Why don't you just use Agent as a newsreader? I use what I use, and since my life does not revolve around the few news groups I scan, I continue to go with what I use -- which does a lot of things nicely. But let's not get into what we all should be using for our browsers/readers. Rather, it is a normal thing to give a reference to thread info, I think. As always, thanks to all who comment on this. --Phil Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, Euclid is a 'burb of Cleveland and about 80mi. from Youngstown. Weather? What time of day? Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Quite different. Myrtle Beach is 700mi south (a little east). Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. No alcohol Naw! I live about 700mi north-east of Euclid and so far this winter it's been fairly warm (maybe 40F warmer than last year today). Who knows what it'll be in a couple of weeks though. Cleveland is on Lake Erie so tends to get "lake-effect snow", so some snow can be expected if you're there for any time. Thanks. Your last paragraph explains things perfectly. I was finding it hard to reconcile the apparent weather with what I had been told. If it is 40F warmer than a year ago, that explains a lot. Wow. That is some difference. I just checked. It's 43F right now. There wasn't one day last January when it got above 32F, and two weeks when it didn't get above 10F (lows down to -25F). 40F warmer than this time last year isn't far off. Dragging back memories of school geography, I thought the big US continental land mass meant that weather conditions tended to have short-term stability and so the weather in a couple of weeks time will be much the same as it is now.. If "short term" == an hour. ;-) The US isn't just a large continental land mass. The Gulf of Mexico changes weather patterns substantially. It's not at all like Asia, for example. The high in Euclid today is supposed to be 58F. http://wwwa.accuweather.com/index-forecast.asp? partner=accuweather&myadc=0&zipcode=44117&u=1 The "long term" (two weeks) forecast[*] for Euclid is in the mid 20s, so don't count on _any_ stability in the weather. http://wwwa.accuweather.com/forecast-page3.asp? partner=accuweather&myadc=0&traveler=1&zipcode=441 17&fday=11 &metric=0 [*] Not to be relied on. -- Keith |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:11:18 +0000, Palindr?me
wrote: bill allemann wrote: there's a bunch of weather websites where you enter the city for local weather reports. Thanks. I have - but they aren't what I expected. Everyone has told me January in Ohio is all snow and bitterly cold but the present forecasts look positively balmy. I don't live in Ohio, I live in western New York, and all I can tell you right now is that we're having a really wierd winter this year. Normally January-March is true winter, but this year, not really so far. Just check Accuweather or Wunderground or the Weather Channel right before you leave to get the forecast. |
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"Palindr?me" wrote I have - but they aren't what I expected. Everyone has told me January in Ohio is all snow and bitterly cold but the present forecasts look positively balmy. So I was just looking for some local input and a post from someone who looked to be in the neighbourhood looked a good opportunity to find out. Sorry. -- Sue You'll have to check the weather, the day b/4 you get here. I work for ODOT in the area you will be traveling to. Just this last Tues, we were salting & plowing with a ground temp of 24 degrees. Today Friday, we were out patching potholes in 50+ degrees. Last year at this time, we had somewhere around 22 straight days plowing & salting, without a day off. |
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:26:28 -0500, Phil Munro
Gave us: It is really hard That's what *SHE* said... |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:07:21 -0500, Phil Munro
Gave us: I use what I use, You should place at least ONE blank line between what was quoted, and your CRAP. |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro
Gave us: But, ... , see? Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, you should NEVER top post in Usenet. It ain't your ****ing e-mail, boy. |
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:44:37 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs
wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:07:21 -0500, Phil Munro Gave us: I use what I use, You should place at least ONE blank line between what was quoted, and your CRAP. Yes. No blank line often confuses newsreaders (such as Agent) that try to identify quoted text and show it in a different color from the new text. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:45:49 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs
wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro Gave us: But, ... , see? Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, No one has ever explained "nitpicking" in any way that makes any sense. It' just one of the weapons used in verbal assault. you should NEVER top post in Usenet. Top-posting is a convenience for users, who don't want to have to scroll down. If you think that's just a minor thing, you haven't read a group with hundreds of new (bottom-posted) replies every time. Actually, I prefer posting in the appropriate places (with at least SOME of the reply in the first screenful). However, in a comparison of posting at the top and all at the bottom, all it the top is much preferable. This is based on actual experience, not mindless following of (non-justified) rules. It ain't your ****ing e-mail, boy. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:45:49 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro Gave us: But, ... , see? Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, No one has ever explained "nitpicking" in any way that makes any sense. It' just one of the weapons used in verbal assault. you should NEVER top post in Usenet. Top-posting is a convenience for users, who don't want to have to scroll down. If you think that's just a minor thing, you haven't read a group with hundreds of new (bottom-posted) replies every time. Actually, I prefer posting in the appropriate places (with at least SOME of the reply in the first screenful). However, in a comparison of posting at the top and all at the bottom, all it the top is much preferable. This is based on actual experience, not mindless following of (non-justified) rules. If you trim the replies correctly, though, that isn't a problem. It's best to bottom post to keep the events in order, but also trim out what's too old to be directly relevant. If some folks bottom post, and some top post, the quoted conversation loses coherence. So there has to be some kind of convention. Like it not, the convention is to bottom post and trim the quoted lines. Banty Banty |
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On 21 Jan 2006 12:46:53 -0800, Banty wrote:
In article , Mark Lloyd says... On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:45:49 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro Gave us: But, ... , see? Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, No one has ever explained "nitpicking" in any way that makes any sense. It' just one of the weapons used in verbal assault. you should NEVER top post in Usenet. Top-posting is a convenience for users, who don't want to have to scroll down. If you think that's just a minor thing, you haven't read a group with hundreds of new (bottom-posted) replies every time. Actually, I prefer posting in the appropriate places (with at least SOME of the reply in the first screenful). However, in a comparison of posting at the top and all at the bottom, all it the top is much preferable. This is based on actual experience, not mindless following of (non-justified) rules. If you trim the replies correctly, though, that isn't a problem. It's best to bottom post to keep the events in order, but also trim out what's too old to be directly relevant. If some folks bottom post, and some top post, the quoted conversation loses coherence. So there has to be some kind of convention. Why I actually recommended was posting in the appropriate place (as I did here). I was objecting to the presence of a single bottom-posted reply below a LOT of quoted text (could use some trimming). Like it not, the convention That's another problem, the use of things like "convention" as excuses to get out of thinking. is to bottom post and trim the quoted lines. And you show that people behave as "herd animals" (usually imitating others rather than doing their own thinking). "Convention" is not an accurate guide to what's best, just a suggestion. Banty Banty -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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"Roy L. Fuchs" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro Gave us: But, ... , see? Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, you should NEVER top post in Usenet. It ain't your ****ing e-mail, boy. There are many newsgroups (the Jeep ones for a set of examples) that prefer top-posting. 'Never' is just the wrong word.......... Tomes |
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"Phil Munro" wrote in message ... It is really hard to follow a lot of posts these days from people who do not include at least part of the posts they are replying to. My news reader does not make it easy for me to find those posts. When I've marked posts as "read", they do not show again -- without some effort. And the idea of news group postings is to be able to scan as quickly as possible. It is normal, expected, and helpful for follow-up postings to include enough of the previous thread to give explanation of the topic. I am posting this only to help those who are not (yet) aware of what they are doing. Thanks for reading. --Phil Here is what I do Phil. I use the View: Hide Read Messages (which is what I suspect you are doing, although it might carry a different naming). If I wish to go back into an already read part of the thread I simply change the view to Show All Messages. Easy as cake. Hoping this might help, Tomes (who wishes that top posting was the norm in _these_ NGs as it makes the most sense to me) |
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"Phil Munro" wrote in message ... It is really hard to follow a lot of posts these days from people who do not include at least part of the posts they are replying to. My news reader does not make it easy for me to find those posts. When I've marked posts as "read", they do not show again -- without some effort. And the idea of news group postings is to be able to scan as quickly as possible. I use Mozilla Thunderbird and i think it would reduce your problems, and it's free... it integrates with Firefox perfectly which is also free. -bob |
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"Tomes" wrote in message ink.net... : : "Roy L. Fuchs" wrote in message : ... : On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro : Gave us: : : : But, ... , see? : : : Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, you should NEVER top post in Usenet. : : It ain't your ****ing e-mail, boy. : : : There are many newsgroups (the Jeep ones for a set of examples) that prefer : top-posting. 'Never' is just the wrong word.......... : Tomes : : It "always" is! g |
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Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue |
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Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue The short answer is no. Cleveland, Euclid and the other suburbs to the East and Northeast of Cleveland are called "the snow belt". they get "lake effect" precipitation and generally have a worse time of it then West and South. In general when you travel south, even as little as Akron the winter weather tends to be milder. the better answer is who knows? we tend to get severe blizzards in February. bring a coat and gloves. |
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Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue The short answer is no. Cleveland, Euclid and the other suburbs to the East and Northeast of Cleveland are called "the snow belt". they get "lake effect" precipitation and generally have a worse time of it then West and South. In general when you travel south, even as little as Akron the winter weather tends to be milder. the better answer is who knows? we tend to get severe blizzards in February. bring a coat and gloves. Thanks everyone. I have settled on the "Scott of the Antarctic" look, sans snow-shoes. I don't intend to pack that much as I assume that shops there will have a better range of suitable clothing than those in Devon, UK. I was planning to hire a car and drive up to see friends in Toronto - but will leave the decision on that until I get to Euclid. The temperature there seems to have fallen 20 degrees in a week. For those that have despaired over my wanderings OT for the group - I apologise. But I have always been of the conviction that, if you wan't to know the reality and not the wishful thinking, ask an engineer... -- Sue |
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:24 GMT, "Tomes" Gave us:
"Roy L. Fuchs" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:48:53 -0500, Phil Munro Gave us: But, ... , see? Also, Mr. Nit****ingPick, you should NEVER top post in Usenet. It ain't your ****ing e-mail, boy. There are many newsgroups (the Jeep ones for a set of examples) that prefer top-posting. 'Never' is just the wrong word.......... Tomes No. Coming up with "sets" of groups that were so retarded that they had to declare themselves "different" is just wrong. It is ALT. Get used to it. Don't try to warp it. Ye be warped. |
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"Palindr~»me" wrote in message ... TimPerry wrote: Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue The short answer is no. Cleveland, Euclid and the other suburbs to the East and Northeast of Cleveland are called "the snow belt". they get "lake effect" precipitation and generally have a worse time of it then West and South. In general when you travel south, even as little as Akron the winter weather tends to be milder. the better answer is who knows? we tend to get severe blizzards in February. bring a coat and gloves. Thanks everyone. I have settled on the "Scott of the Antarctic" look, sans snow-shoes. I don't intend to pack that much as I assume that shops there will have a better range of suitable clothing than those in Devon, UK. I was planning to hire a car and drive up to see friends in Toronto - but will leave the decision on that until I get to Euclid. The temperature there seems to have fallen 20 degrees in a week. For those that have despaired over my wanderings OT for the group - I apologise. But I have always been of the conviction that, if you wan't to know the reality and not the wishful thinking, ask an engineer... Is 'www.weather.com' not accessible from outside north america? Just punch in the city and state name before you start packing, and click the '10 day forecast' button. aem sends... |
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ameijers wrote:
"PalindrĂ¢~»me" wrote in message ... TimPerry wrote: Is Youngstown near enough to Euclid to have the same weather? I only ask as I am due to go to a wedding there in a couple of weeks (..never the blushing bride, I know) and wondered how cold/wet/snowy it is going to be.. Yes, I have asked the family - but I only know the bride's family and they are from Myrtle Beach, where the weather is different. IIUC. Their versions seem to range from "Scott of the Antarctic" - needing snowshoes and huskies - to "USN Date" - where three pairs of tights and not drinking alchohol will, apparently, provide enough protection ( most of the time).. -- Sue The short answer is no. Cleveland, Euclid and the other suburbs to the East and Northeast of Cleveland are called "the snow belt". they get "lake effect" precipitation and generally have a worse time of it then West and South. In general when you travel south, even as little as Akron the winter weather tends to be milder. the better answer is who knows? we tend to get severe blizzards in February. bring a coat and gloves. Thanks everyone. I have settled on the "Scott of the Antarctic" look, sans snow-shoes. I don't intend to pack that much as I assume that shops there will have a better range of suitable clothing than those in Devon, UK. I was planning to hire a car and drive up to see friends in Toronto - but will leave the decision on that until I get to Euclid. The temperature there seems to have fallen 20 degrees in a week. For those that have despaired over my wanderings OT for the group - I apologise. But I have always been of the conviction that, if you wan't to know the reality and not the wishful thinking, ask an engineer... Is 'www.weather.com' not accessible from outside north america? Just punch in the city and state name before you start packing, and click the '10 day forecast' button. Yep, weather forecasts are accessible - together with historic data of the weather there a year ago. I wasn't expecting and didn't understand why it was so different from last year (like 30 degrees or more different) and wanted to know if it would last..I was taught, typically wrongly, that the big land mass of the US meant stable weather patterns that altered only slowly. That you can have a ten day forecast that can be believed is quite something.... I have never lived anywhere with temperatures that do those sorts of changes in so short a time... -- Sue |
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Yep, weather forecasts are accessible - together with historic data of
the weather there a year ago. I wasn't expecting and didn't understand why it was so different from last year (like 30 degrees or more different) and wanted to know if it would last..I was taught, typically wrongly, that the big land mass of the US meant stable weather patterns that altered only slowly. That you can have a ten day forecast that can be believed is quite something.... I have never lived anywhere with temperatures that do those sorts of changes in so short a time... -- Sue the bittersweet saying for this area of the US is: if you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes. |
It is really hard ...
TimPerry, 1/31/2006, 12:50:08 AM,
wrote: the bittersweet saying for this area of the US is: if you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes. Where's that, MidAtlantic area? |
It is really hard ...
"badgolferman" wrote in message ... TimPerry, 1/31/2006, 12:50:08 AM, wrote: the bittersweet saying for this area of the US is: if you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes. Where's that, MidAtlantic area? I've heard a lot of areas claim this. Midwest (Wisconson), MidAtlantic (Va), New England (Maine), even Florida in the summer time. I think it's a 'universal truth', like "everyone talks about the weather, but...." daestrom |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:44:34 GMT, "daestrom"
wrote: "badgolferman" wrote in message ... TimPerry, 1/31/2006, 12:50:08 AM, wrote: the bittersweet saying for this area of the US is: if you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes. Where's that, MidAtlantic area? I've heard a lot of areas claim this. Midwest (Wisconson), MidAtlantic (Va), New England (Maine), even Florida in the summer time. I think it's a 'universal truth', like "everyone talks about the weather, but...." daestrom What if, early last year, over New Orleans LA, a loud voice was heard saying "A BIG F***ING STORM IS COMING! GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!"? |
It is really hard ...
the bittersweet saying for this area of the US is: if you don't like
the weather wait 5 minutes. Where's that, MidAtlantic area? that too, but we were talking about Cleveland metro I've heard a lot of areas claim this. Midwest (Wisconson), MidAtlantic (Va), New England (Maine), even Florida in the summer time. I think it's a 'universal truth', like "everyone talks about the weather, but...." daestrom Cleveland update: its been an unusually mild winter so far (so the residents say). it was quite mild there today. when i stopped at the Pennsylvania state line it was fridged. when i got back to central New York there is snow on the ground. |
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 02:34:58 -0500, TimPerry wrote:
the bittersweet saying for this area of the US is: if you don't like the weather wait 5 minutes. Where's that, MidAtlantic area? that too, but we were talking about Cleveland metro Sure. Teh point I tried to express to the OP was that the weather patterns in the US are quite unstable, mostly because of the Gulf of Mexico. I've heard a lot of areas claim this. Midwest (Wisconson), MidAtlantic (Va), New England (Maine), even Florida in the summer time. I think it's a 'universal truth', like "everyone talks about the weather, but...." daestrom Cleveland update: its been an unusually mild winter so far (so the residents say). it was quite mild there today. when i stopped at the Pennsylvania state line it was fridged. when i got back to central New York there is snow on the ground. I live in NW Vermont (a seven hundred or so miles to the NE of Cleveland) and it's been mostly in the 30s and 40s. Today was like spring! We're about 15% behind normal in heating_degree_days. Last year wasn't so kind. -- Keith |
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