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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
When we ordered our manufactured home, we ordered 200 amp service be
built into it (cost extra, but many of you here recommended it so we went with it.) We also ordered 200 amp service from Edison, so when they finally get out there to install the electric, that's what they'll be giving us. But... Our contractor says, nope, the house is 100 amp and so he put a 100 amp pedestal next to the house for Edison to hook up to. He says maybe we ordered 200 amp service, but we didn't get it and we should ask for our money back on that. How do we tell if we have 100 or 200 amp service? My husband has looked at the circuit breaker box on the back of the house and he says there's one larger switch at the top that is labeled 100, then all the smaller switches underneath it. What happens if Edison puts 200 amp service on that 100 amp pedestal, and what if we do have a 100 amp house? Or what if we tell Edison to only put 100 amp service on, but the house actually turns out to be 200 amp? I'll be calling the dealership Monday for answers but I'm not hopeful. They don't seem to know their ass from a hole in the ground over there. I know what's on the spec sheet - 200 amp, but is that what they really put in the house? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Maxi Email addy upon request. |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
I'm not an expert, but i have owned residential and private property in
the past. You don't mention if the installers did anything to your indoor wireing, to bring it up to a 200 amp? The smaller switches usually are 15, 20, 25 and 40 amps totally up to or just under 100. Now with 200 amp you should have more circuits adding up to just under or 200. Take a good look and add up all those circuits. |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
it sounds like your main panel is only rated for 100 amp maximum. so:
1. pay a different licensed master electrician with whom you would do business to perform a written inspection of your system from the pole thru the panel and all the way to your outlets, including service wire sizes, panel specifications, main and other breaker sizes, and outlets and other electrical items included in your contract and its blueprints; and estimate the cost to change the service to the 200 amp 220 volt service you ordered in writing including photographs. do not clutter this up with any addons unless you discover other things missing. 2. have a cup of coffee and decide how much money the difference is that you have been damaged. 3. pay your attorney to send a legal notice letter appropriate to your state or country to the seller of your new home requesting the compensation, and follow your attorney's advice. |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
maxinemovies wrote:
When we ordered our manufactured home, we ordered 200 amp service be built into it (cost extra, but many of you here recommended it so we went with it.) We also ordered 200 amp service from Edison, so when they finally get out there to install the electric, that's what they'll be giving us. But... Our contractor says, nope, the house is 100 amp and so he put a 100 amp pedestal next to the house for Edison to hook up to. He says maybe we ordered 200 amp service, but we didn't get it and we should ask for our money back on that. How do we tell if we have 100 or 200 amp service? My husband has looked at the circuit breaker box on the back of the house and he says there's one larger switch at the top that is labeled 100, then all the smaller switches underneath it. What happens if Edison puts 200 amp service on that 100 amp pedestal, and what if we do have a 100 amp house? Or what if we tell Edison to only put 100 amp service on, but the house actually turns out to be 200 amp? I'll be calling the dealership Monday for answers but I'm not hopeful. They don't seem to know their ass from a hole in the ground over there. I know what's on the spec sheet - 200 amp, but is that what they really put in the house? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Maxi Email addy upon request. Not enough information to be sure, but it sounds like you got 100 amp. I would be calling the supplier. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
maxinemovies wrote:
When we ordered our manufactured home, we ordered 200 amp service be built into it (cost extra, but many of you here recommended it so we went with it.) We also ordered 200 amp service from Edison, so when they finally get out there to install the electric, that's what they'll be giving us. But... Our contractor says, nope, the house is 100 amp and so he put a 100 amp pedestal next to the house for Edison to hook up to. He says maybe we ordered 200 amp service, but we didn't get it and we should ask for our money back on that. How do we tell if we have 100 or 200 amp service? My husband has looked at the circuit breaker box on the back of the house and he says there's one larger switch at the top that is labeled 100, then all the smaller switches underneath it. What happens if Edison puts 200 amp service on that 100 amp pedestal, and what if we do have a 100 amp house? Or what if we tell Edison to only put 100 amp service on, but the house actually turns out to be 200 amp? I'll be calling the dealership Monday for answers but I'm not hopeful. They don't seem to know their ass from a hole in the ground over there. I know what's on the spec sheet - 200 amp, but is that what they really put in the house? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Maxi Email addy upon request. Oh yea, don't worry about having 200 amp service, although who knows what they will give you when they see what is already there. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
Sounds like your house got 100A service.
Since this is band new install swapping this panel for 200A should not be that big of a deal. Wires to branches, breaker sizes, outlets, etc etc etc should be already to local code. If electric company installs 200A meterbase, should be few hours project Bring contract, ask dealer to make it right. After all small claims court would be an easy win for you. |
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maxinemovies wrote: When we ordered our manufactured home, we ordered 200 amp service be built into it. But... My husband has looked at the circuit breaker box on the back of the house and he says there's one larger switch at the top that is labeled 100, then all the smaller switches underneath it. Ya' got flim flammed. It happens with manufactured housing all of the time. What happens if Edison puts 200 amp service on that 100 amp pedestal, and what if we do have a 100 amp house? The 200 amp service pedestal is fine for use with what you have. I'll be calling the dealership Monday for answers but I'm not hopeful. They don't seem to know their ass from a hole in the ground over there. I know what's on the spec sheet - 200 amp, but is that what they really put in the house? Nope, flim-flammed, ya'been had, ya' got the wool pulled over your eyes. Now go raise hell with the dealer that sold it to you and get some pay-back! The manufactured housing industry could be so much more. But things like your situation are just a small part of the problem. They will not improve until people stop putting up with them stealing your money and walking away without making things right. Read your contract carefully and get an attorney if necessary. I saw a $100,000.00 mobile home recently with the cabinet doors falling off. The rails and stiles in that home were made of 2x2s and 1/4" hardboard paneling. There's no excuse for that lack of quality. Tom in KY, installed mobile home services for 12 years among other things. |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
maxinemovies wrote:
When we ordered our manufactured home, we ordered 200 amp service be built into it (cost extra, but many of you here recommended it so we went with it.) We also ordered 200 amp service from Edison, so when they finally get out there to install the electric, that's what they'll be giving us. But... Our contractor says, nope, the house is 100 amp and so he put a 100 amp pedestal next to the house for Edison to hook up to. He says maybe we ordered 200 amp service, but we didn't get it and we should ask for our money back on that. How do we tell if we have 100 or 200 amp service? My husband has looked at the circuit breaker box on the back of the house and he says there's one larger switch at the top that is labeled 100, then all the smaller switches underneath it. What happens if Edison puts 200 amp service on that 100 amp pedestal, and what if we do have a 100 amp house? Or what if we tell Edison to only put 100 amp service on, but the house actually turns out to be 200 amp? I'll be calling the dealership Monday for answers but I'm not hopeful. They don't seem to know their ass from a hole in the ground over there. I know what's on the spec sheet - 200 amp, but is that what they really put in the house? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Maxi Email addy upon request. 200 A service was pretty standard where I live and when my house was build 30 years ago. My 200 A panel has a main switch that says 200. I wouldn't want an electric service less than 200A, more if I had any really heavy drawing tools. that is what I have; actually the standard is higher now since my house is almost 30 years old. |
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100 amp vs 200 amp confusion
"Boothbay" wrote in message ups.com... I'm not an expert, but i have owned residential and private property in the past. You don't mention if the installers did anything to your indoor wireing, to bring it up to a 200 amp? The smaller switches usually are 15, 20, 25 and 40 amps totally up to or just under 100. Now with 200 amp you should have more circuits adding up to just under or 200. Take a good look and add up all those circuits. No, not correct. The service amps have nothing to do with the breaker size below. The smaller breakers can total anything the box is rated for. Mine can handle a total of 18 breakers that in fact, could total 18 x 20A. Realistically, there is two 220V circuits, one 40A, on 30A, plus a couple of 20A and a bunch of 15A. If you were to bring 200 A service to a building you may have one circuit for the lights, say a 15A and another for a few receptacles, a 20A. You have the ability to add more, but since it is a shed, you have only two, totaling a maximum of 25A, but you still have 200A service. The number of circuits is determined by the needs of the building. In theory, you could put every light on its own circuit and every receptacle on its own too. That could bring the number of breakers over 100, but if the outside service is 60A or 100A and the main breaker is 60A or 100A, that is the rating of the service. Most homes can still live comfortably with 100A for general appliances and non-electric fueled heat. All electric heat makes quite a difference. Even with oil heat and electric hot water, central air and an electric range, then you are pushing the limits. |
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I'll be calling the dealership Monday for answers but I'm not hopeful. They don't seem to know their ass from a hole in the ground over there. I know what's on the spec sheet - 200 amp, but is that what they really put in the house? I assume you have a Circuit Breaker box that came with the house. The panel rating is the size of the MAIN circuit breaker. There are two poles and you expect to see a two pole breaker rates for, duh, 100 or 200 amps. In times pay, each pole might be TWO breakers in parallel but I don't think anyone does that anymore. That's the main difference between a 100 amp house and a 200 amp house. The second difference is that the feeder cable from the service connection of the panel has to be large enough to carry 200 amps. Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Maxi Email addy upon request. |
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