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[email protected] December 27th 05 03:02 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.


CBHVAC December 27th 05 03:06 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.


Nope.






Ralph Mowery December 27th 05 03:09 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?



To generate carbon monoxide something has to burn. Unless the heater has
shorted out and caught on fire you are safe.

The heater will not make carbon monoxide.



Jim Yanik December 27th 05 03:24 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
wrote in
ups.com:

I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.



Only if the oil gets ignited and it burns.

Which the unit is designed to prevent.
Also,you might notice if it did ignite the oil.
Carbon monoxide is formed by incomplete combustion.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

mm December 27th 05 04:05 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:06:13 -0500, "CBHVAC"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.


Nope.

How do you mean that? :)





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CBHVAC December 27th 05 04:36 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:06:13 -0500, "CBHVAC"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.


Nope.

How do you mean that? :)



Ok..hows this...

No
aitn happening
check for spending too much time in front of a monitor and under those neat
little long tubes that give off light...:)




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Brian December 27th 05 06:54 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 

wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.



Nope,

Sounds like my old neighbour. He has carbon monoxide detectors all over

the house. House is all electric. Somehow industry convinced him he
needed
those....


Bob December 27th 05 11:25 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
It's not possible. You would see and smell smoke from the burning oil. Start
looking at other sources. Check the EPA web site. http://www.epa.gov/iaq/


wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.




Mikepier December 27th 05 12:13 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
Carbon monoxide is the end result of any unburned fossil fuel like gas,
oil, coal, wood. No risk from your electric heater.


mm December 27th 05 12:18 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
On 26 Dec 2005 22:54:28 -0800, "Brian" wrote:


wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.



Nope,


For you and CBHVAC, one could take "Nope" to be in answer to "I wonder
if this is alway's true?", that heaters aren't a CO risk. That was
the only question he asked. That's why I asked what he meant. You
make clear below that the Nope applies to another question, that
actually wasn't asked.

Sounds like my old neighbour. He has carbon monoxide detectors all over
the house. House is all electric. Somehow industry convinced him he
needed
those....


LOL The local newsoccasionally tends to do that too.


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m Ransley December 27th 05 01:06 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxiderisk?
 
Low level carbon monoxide exposure, you have symptoms, get a blood test.
Electric heater, well if its on fire leaking oil then it will put out
Co. But I think it would be obvious. Learn what produces Co, A bad car
exuast, building heat, house heating can output Co. Even cigarettes.


HeatMan December 27th 05 01:08 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 

"Brian" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.



Nope,

Sounds like my old neighbour. He has carbon monoxide detectors all over

the house. House is all electric. Somehow industry convinced him he
needed
those....


And I'll bet those are UL2039 detectors. They won't alarm until the CO
levels are life threatening.



Stormin Mormon December 27th 05 01:15 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
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wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.



Mark Lloyd December 27th 05 03:51 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:08:14 -0500, "HeatMan"
wrote:


"Brian" wrote in message
roups.com...

wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.



Nope,

Sounds like my old neighbour. He has carbon monoxide detectors all over

the house. House is all electric. Somehow industry convinced him he
needed
those....


And I'll bet those are UL2039 detectors. They won't alarm until the CO
levels are life threatening.


How about getting a CO detector with a display? Those are supposed to
show lower levels.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

CBHVAC December 27th 05 04:07 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:08:14 -0500, "HeatMan"
wrote:


"Brian" wrote in message
groups.com...

wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I
wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.


Nope,

Sounds like my old neighbour. He has carbon monoxide detectors all over

the house. House is all electric. Somehow industry convinced him he
needed
those....


And I'll bet those are UL2039 detectors. They won't alarm until the CO
levels are life threatening.


How about getting a CO detector with a display? Those are supposed to
show lower levels.


Still crap...seriously.


--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin




buffalobill December 27th 05 04:43 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
1. see your doctor, it's not an electrical heater problem.
2. buy a digital carbon monoxide alarm for your daily travels to
determine where the problem lies, like at home from an unvented gas or
wood or propane heater.
3. get more info at:
http://www.cdc.gov/co/basics.htm


m Ransley December 27th 05 04:53 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxiderisk?
 
Home digital read out Co detectors for 50$ are not crap, they store peak
readings, sure a tech that needs one every day needs a pro unit, but not
a home owner. If they were crap First Alert and others would have been
shut down due to lawsuits.


Tony Hwang December 27th 05 07:01 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.

Hi,
How much do you go outside for fresh air. Your heat does not have
combustion, how could it have CO problem? If you want to prove it,
just turn it off for a day, then you'll know.
Tony

George E. Cawthon December 27th 05 07:32 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
wrote:
I've been experiencing some symptoms of low level carbon monoxide
exposure. I have an 10 year old oil-filled radiator heater under my
computer desk. I sit at this desk eight hours a day. I've read that
electric oil-filled heaters aren't a carbon monoxide risk, but I wonder
if this is always true?


Thanks in advance for your responses.


There is no carbon monoxide (CO) associated with
any electric heating device. CO is product of
incomplete burning of gas, oil, wood, kerosene,
and other fuels.

There is absolutely no way you can get carbon
monoxide from an oil filled electric heater.

Steve Kraus December 28th 05 02:10 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
Is there even a vent into the oil tank?

mm December 28th 05 04:16 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxide risk?
 
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:53:06 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

Home digital read out Co detectors for 50$ are not crap, they store peak
readings, sure a tech that needs one every day needs a pro unit, but not
a home owner. If they were crap First Alert and others would have been
shut down due to lawsuits.


Yes, I think that's the brand I have, and it worked when it needed to.
Woke me up one night, making a big racket in my bedroom.. I had a
headache, and opened the windows, then went downstairs to turn off the
furnace. Later I learned the flue was almost clogged.

This one plugs in and shows some moving red segments with LEDs, and
when the level gets over a certain point, it reports the level.

Apparently at the level I had, other urls say it would take 2 full
days or was it 3 to kill me. But if I was too groggy to wake up the
next day (not sure if the light and some sleeping woudl have let me
wake up or not.) it would have had 3 days to do it's job.

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CBHVAC December 29th 05 09:43 AM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxiderisk?
 

"m Ransley" wrote in message
...
Home digital read out Co detectors for 50$ are not crap, they store peak
readings, sure a tech that needs one every day needs a pro unit, but not
a home owner. If they were crap First Alert and others would have been
shut down due to lawsuits.


Rule of thumb in any liability issue: Dead people dont sue.

And yes Mark, they suck. They are NOT what the average person thinks they
are. They are NOT a sure fire way to measure anything...and, does anyone
know that after 5 years you are supposed to toss them? Who, honestly, has
replaced a unit that is more than 5 years old? Who really knows how long its
been there unless you just put it up?
ITs why some of us install units that not only know, they make sure YOU
know. The public wants cheap, so First Alert and others give you cheap. Just
dont bet your life on it. Something is better than nothing, but personally,
I would not have one of those POS things in my home.
And the new combo smoke/CO detectors? Jokes.



m Ransley December 29th 05 12:55 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxiderisk?
 
So CB., Co detectors that are UL approved and independantly tested
accurate, or better yet working, by many groups, one nationaly known,
who even compares them, Consumer Reports are wrong. No I don`t believe
it. There are deaths of course but 100x more people are made sick.
Funny how nobody in the media has made this a public issue yet. for if
they were as bad as you believe it would be headline news. Probably
the most independantly tested device made is your hardware store Co
detector. For true accuracy , yes I believe you, as few even simple
thermometers and no cheap analog hygrometers have I ever ever seen as
100 correct. But to do their job and register, record, levels that are
higher than Zero , I see them as working to inform of possible danger,
there fore they work. I would not expect a pro to walk into my house
with a first alert home wall unit, yes Id laugh and throw him out. They
just are not designed for the abuse of what a pro puts them through.


James Nipper December 30th 05 01:41 PM

Are electric oil-filled radiator heaters a carbon monoxiderisk?
 
Bubba, our government is not supposed "to be taking care of us." That is
a job best left to ourselves.


--James--

----------------------------------------------

Hey Ransley,
Go to www.coexperts.com and read.
You will find out just how well your goverment is taking care of us
with CO detectors.




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