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[email protected] December 22nd 05 03:21 PM

Cut Out Clogging Galvanized Waste Pipe and Lose Vent Stack Support?
 
The kitchen drain uses 2" galvanized piping that's fifty years old. It
clogs up sometimes and I have to use the power auger drill attachment
to get things moving again. There is the potential that the drain
could decide to clog when the dishwasher is draining and nobody is
around to prevent the flooding.

So, looking into replacing a section of galvanized pipe with PVC. It's
all exposed in the basement so access is not a problem. What I noticed
is that the pitch of the five feet of horizontal portion, before it
reaches the 45 deg elbow going to the main waste line, is slightly in
the wrong direction! So what I think is happening is the solids are
settling back near the 90 deg sweap instead of heading downstream, thus
choking of the sweep connecting the vertical portion coming from the
sink to the horizontal section.

My fear is that the horizontal run is probably pitched wrong because it
is supporting the weight of the galvanized vent stack that tees off of
where the p-trap enters the line upstairs. Cutting out the horizontal
portion of the galvanized pipe could then create more problems if
everything shifted. I don't want to try too hard to jack up the
horizontal pipe given its age, but if I could just a bit what could I
use to suspend the galvanized from the floor joist above it? This
stuff is pretty heavy.

Thanks!


Speedy Jim December 22nd 05 04:26 PM

Cut Out Clogging Galvanized Waste Pipe and Lose Vent Stack Support?
 
wrote:
The kitchen drain uses 2" galvanized piping that's fifty years old. It
clogs up sometimes and I have to use the power auger drill attachment
to get things moving again. There is the potential that the drain
could decide to clog when the dishwasher is draining and nobody is
around to prevent the flooding.

So, looking into replacing a section of galvanized pipe with PVC. It's
all exposed in the basement so access is not a problem. What I noticed
is that the pitch of the five feet of horizontal portion, before it
reaches the 45 deg elbow going to the main waste line, is slightly in
the wrong direction! So what I think is happening is the solids are
settling back near the 90 deg sweap instead of heading downstream, thus
choking of the sweep connecting the vertical portion coming from the
sink to the horizontal section.

My fear is that the horizontal run is probably pitched wrong because it
is supporting the weight of the galvanized vent stack that tees off of
where the p-trap enters the line upstairs. Cutting out the horizontal
portion of the galvanized pipe could then create more problems if
everything shifted. I don't want to try too hard to jack up the
horizontal pipe given its age, but if I could just a bit what could I
use to suspend the galvanized from the floor joist above it? This
stuff is pretty heavy.

Thanks!


I was going to say:
Buy or fabricate a clevis hanger:
http://www.pipingtech.com/products/p...anger/fig2.htm

1/4-20 all thread rod to joist with a plate bolted to joist.

But that only helps if you leave some of the horizontal run
in place (at the EL). And it depends on the rotted galv
threads in the EL to support the weight:-(

If there really is all the weight of 2" galv above the
P-trap that you think there is, then the vertical pipe
should get a support with a yoke bolted around it and
strapped/bolted to joist(s).

THEN...you can saw off the vertical pipe to correct the
slope problem. Replace the galv EL with a long-turn
PVC sweep EL. Or...with a long-turn TEE-WYE and cleanout.

Jim

John Hines December 22nd 05 04:52 PM

Cut Out Clogging Galvanized Waste Pipe and Lose Vent Stack Support?
 
wrote:

everything shifted. I don't want to try too hard to jack up the
horizontal pipe given its age, but if I could just a bit what could I
use to suspend the galvanized from the floor joist above it? This
stuff is pretty heavy.


There are supports that fit between studs/joists and hold the pipe.

Install one on the vertical pipe. Cut off as needed below that. Couple
the old pipe to the new PVC with a Fernco rubber coupling.

[email protected] December 22nd 05 09:01 PM

Cut Out Clogging Galvanized Waste Pipe and Lose Vent Stack Support?
 
And make certain with a level that the horizontal pipe is actually
sloping the wrong way before you start cutting.


PipeDown December 22nd 05 11:08 PM

Cut Out Clogging Galvanized Waste Pipe and Lose Vent Stack Support?
 

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The kitchen drain uses 2" galvanized piping that's fifty years old. It
clogs up sometimes and I have to use the power auger drill attachment
to get things moving again. There is the potential that the drain
could decide to clog when the dishwasher is draining and nobody is
around to prevent the flooding.

So, looking into replacing a section of galvanized pipe with PVC. It's
all exposed in the basement so access is not a problem. What I noticed
is that the pitch of the five feet of horizontal portion, before it
reaches the 45 deg elbow going to the main waste line, is slightly in
the wrong direction! So what I think is happening is the solids are
settling back near the 90 deg sweap instead of heading downstream, thus
choking of the sweep connecting the vertical portion coming from the
sink to the horizontal section.

My fear is that the horizontal run is probably pitched wrong because it
is supporting the weight of the galvanized vent stack that tees off of
where the p-trap enters the line upstairs. Cutting out the horizontal
portion of the galvanized pipe could then create more problems if
everything shifted. I don't want to try too hard to jack up the
horizontal pipe given its age, but if I could just a bit what could I
use to suspend the galvanized from the floor joist above it? This
stuff is pretty heavy.

Thanks!


Metal pipe tape. Just loop it under the pipe and nail it to an exposed
floor joist before cutting.




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